The DOPSA discussion starts around the 49 min mark.This is probably the best interview I've listened to with Leslie Kean:
Ezra asks a lot of good questions that other interviewers haven't thought to, including several of interest to the folks here. One of these questions is regarding the pentagon clearing Grusch's statement for publication (essentially giving him the go-ahead to say what he wanted to say since it didn't violate national security or state secrets). Ezra correctly points out that that this is a very strange thing for the pentagon to do if what Grusch is revealing is actually true. If you want to publicly come out and tell the world about what essentially amounts to the biggest kept secret in the history of our nation, possibly even the world, the Pentagon isn't simply going to stamp off their approval and give you the go-ahead.
When she's asked about this, she grants that it's an interesting point and seems like she hadn't really thought about it much prior to this interview. She gives some possible reasons why the Pentagon might do so, some more plausible than others, but ultimately admits that she doesn't know and that it is an interesting question.
Some of the possible explanations Kean and Ezra brought up to explain why the DOPSR would sign off on it:
-The facts were not true and therefore no secrets were being divulged.
-The facts are true but this was allowed to somehow muddy the water in a psy-op
-an inept clerk who didn't read it just passed it through (Kean made this point when she noted how there were multiple revisions of Grusch's DOPSR cleared statements, with one getting passed through by the next-day.)
-maybe DOPSR is too low level to know about this super secret agency
Kean states how Grusch's boldest claims were in the latest revision of the cleared statements, but she didn't specify which. If the Grusch file were made public, we could see specifically what DOPSR has deemed okay to publish.