Myth: GMO-free seeds available for home gardens

Leifer

Senior Member
OrganicSeeds.jpg

http://www.herbalbear.com/Sources for Organic - Non-GMO Seeds.html


I'm not calling this topic a conspiracy or an untruth.
There are no GMO (or GM) seeds available to the home gardener, and this is the misunderstanding.
It's a misunderstanding among many (not all) consumers and gardeners.......and it is a marketing tactic among many sellers of consumer garden seeds.
It's basically a myth (a widely held (but false) belief or idea), where many home gardeners may "feel better" knowing their variety and selection of garden seed is GMO-free....when in fact they could not buy GMO seed, even if they tried to.

Still, many purchasers of garden seeds believe there they are making a choice, and turn to companies that claim their seed is free of GMO varieties.

It's not an "untruth" because it is true...ALL home garden seeds for sale are "GMO-free".
It would not be an untruth either, for a company to promote, "None of our seeds explode when planting, we only sell Explosive-free seeds ".
Both are true.
Both are deceptive.
Neither types exist.

Seed companies are fully aware that GMO seeds are not available to them or from their competitors.
They are also aware of consumer trends and that the mere mention of "we only sell GMO-free seeds" puts them into a sub-market where this type of claim can increase sales.
These seed companies are not the only ones spreading this idea.....a large part of the myth comes from health-conscious consumers and bloggers. The idea is spread widely, this way....
http://www.herbalbear.com/Sources for Organic - Non-GMO Seeds.html

http://justjoanna.com/2014/02/where-to-buy-organic-non-gmo-seeds-for-your-garden.html


Here's a copy of my recent post in an old thread....
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/gmo-conspiracy-theories.177/page-14#post-122179
To be fair, many gardeners already know this information, and a concern of theirs is that several major home seed catalogs do purchase their (non-GMO) seed stock from larger corporations such as Seminis, Syngenta, and Monsanto. Many people do not want to help support such corps., and seek alternative sources to purchase seeds for their garden.

That is a consumer's choice. However the details of the amount of second-source profit these big agra-corps receive from such catalog seeds, is rarely mentioned....or researched in social media or the blogosphere. I'll try to find this info, but it is slightly beyond the point of this thread.

Burpee and other companies have been rumored to be owned by Monsanto, or other such un-researched claims, easily found on the net.
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&complete=0&site=webhp&source=hp&q="burpee is owned by monsanto"&oq="burpee is owned by monsanto"&gs_l=hp.3...2516.14730.0.14922.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.51.hp..0.0.0.Y6rzD_QVHas


A Burpee response from its owner:
 
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Leifer

Senior Member
Also to be fair....let's look at this circumstance....
A seed company promotes and sells non-GM corn seed. They claim their seed stock is open pollinated, and is free of "wind-blown" pollination from neighboring GM corn fields.
That's a fair claim, if it is true.

To grow what you want, and rely on what the company advertizes, is up to the buyer/grower's trust, and relies on the seller to guarantee it.
I suspect that testing corn seed stock for GM pollen invasion is quite expensive, but possible.

This accidental pollination only applies to the already approved GM crops.....and not to the hundreds (thousands ?) of non-GM plants available to the consumer, that can never be introduced by cross pollination with GM plants (that don't exist in commercial crop fields).

What GMO plants/crops that do exist (in the US) are:

Maize (corn)
Alfalfa
Soybean/Canola
Sugarbeet
Rice (some)
Cotton
Papaya
squash (some)
and a few others....all not available to the consumer.
 
It's just clever marketing in my opinion. Kind of like how apples and milk can be labeled as "gluten-free". I've seen both. It just takes advantage of whatever trend customers care about in order to make itself look like a more attractive product, when nothing has really changed.
 

Landru

Moderator
Staff member
Or PT Barnum selling canned white salmon stating, "guaranteed not to turn pink in the can." Or maybe that's a fake quote.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member
Leifer is there is no GMO rice available in the US for general use. I posted the entire list, they are

Dent corn
sweet corn---fairly new, very limited amounts
cotton
Canola
soybeans
sugar beets
alfalfa
papaya
some yellow and zucchini squash---not many because the current varieties do not protect against many diseases

That is the entire LIST of what is commercially approved for sale in the US. Arctic Apples, 2 varieties are in the final approval stage and so is Aqua Bounty salmon.
 

Leifer

Senior Member
I've also wondered about sales of "Organic seeds" (for garden planting), and if this too, was a sales ploy.

I thought all seeds were generally "organic".....but the USDA does have guidelines.....

....from same link....
How does this apply to home gardeners ?
It depends on the personal standards set by the home/private grower. The above is for commercial certified organic growers.
It seems the "ever-so-tiny" amount of non-organic substance found in (or on) seed, is a small concern. However if you are staunchly pro-organic, edible seed sprouts could contain the most non-organic elements, if indeed the seeds came from a non-organic plant source.(or the seeds have been subject to a non-organic preservative covering, like a fungicide)
After sprouting, and the seed is grown somewhat to maturity......I personally see little difference. (any non-organic elements are vanquished into undetectable amounts)
Other people may feel different.

On the largest garden forum, misunderstandings are found....many gardeners thinking that "organic" is defined as "not genetically modified". Even in this large forum, many believe you can buy GM seed......and this idea is easily spread.
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/organic/msg011854539559.html

....though that was an older GardenWeb post. In newer posts, knowledge of "there are no GM seeds available" is more understood. But still, the incorrect idea is still being corrected to this day.
where to buy non-gmo seeds ? (3/14/2014)
 
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Leifer

Senior Member
This NaturalNews article claims....(read the title).....
Organic agriculture ravaged by chemtrails - Monsanto seizes the opportunity, profits and dominates

...... because there may be patents on some not-yet-existent plants or seeds....that Monsanto is somehow controlling the food supply, "now".
One other problem with this NN article (article=loosest terms), is that if "chemtrails" are already in use....why is there a boon in organic produce.....currently ?
The NN article leads people to believe the list they describe, are somehow all genetically modified already, just because there may be patents in the works.


It is clear to careful readers that this list of plants and their patents are "possibly in the future", but the point is.....the article claims that "chemtrails" are happening now.....and if it's "now"....where are the detrimental results to current non-GM seed and plants ?
 
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Cairenn

Senior Member
What a Gish Gallop of plants. Very few of those are in development. Okra is not that big of a crop and I love the general 'nut' category. N N has no credibility to anyone that looks at it hard
 
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