The vignetting visible (wide shot) is also odd. Normally a lens is optimized/designed such, that there is no vignetting. Perhaps it is not the same make/model lens that fits on the camera he used? That can/could also lead to imaging issues.
Almost all lenses even the high end ones have vignetting to some degree especially wide open, vignette correction is often applied by default by cameras/editing software. So really it would depend on the camera system and settings in use.
Why isn't this simply him shooting through a window?the sequence in question starts at 24:57 and finishes at 26:34, you can clearly see that the "craft" image is being reflected onto a rainy window, with the drips of the rain on the glass clearly visible. Perhaps this is achieved by the cameraman by him using the pepper's ghost effect to project the image a small object onto glass, allowing for the camera to zoom into the reflected image, creating the illusion of a far away craft floating.
I'm still thinking about this stupid video.
Bearing in mind @Gom 's idea that the 'object' in the video is projected onto a window (possibly reflected), and my crazy idea that this could be a security camera feed, possibly in a marina, the logical next step is to try and find a security camera in a location near a marina that matches the scene in the video. Well, I think I've found it.
Here's the google street view location
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.998...4!1sdDylBrVUH8jlbC9NjnwoPQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
A security camera is visible on a pole near the edge of the quay at Guzelce Marina, which is a few miles east of the Kumburgaz location.
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The scene that this camera would produce bears a close resemblance to a part of the 'ufo' video, as this image shows: (the top image has been horizontally flipped to align with the idea that the video is a reflection.)
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Am I still clutching at straws....?
Sure, I accept this is hard to grasp, thats why so many people think it looks like a UFO.Hmm, I have a hard time seeing the resemblance. Can you point it out more?
I think the cruise ship hypothesis only works for one of the scenes seen in the video, not the others.It's a distant cruise ship.
There are mostly wave sounds but there is one section that is distinctly rain. It coincides with a distorted image, due to rain drops falling over whatever is being filmed.-The "vignetting" is caused by the overly large lens hood he was using. When he zooms in, the lens hood is no longer visible.
-The "rain" sound is actually the sound of waves breaking on the beach.
I think the cruise ship hypothesis only works for one of the scenes seen in the video, not the others.
Yes - this works
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No this doesnt.
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I still suggest that the security camera TV screen accounts for:
1. The shape of the object
2. The brightness of the object
3. The horizontal lines seen across the video at certain times
4. The changng scene over time
5. The curved line at th ebase of the object
6. The blue tint seen around the object (hat tip - Gilles Hernandez)
7. The access to such a tv feed - the witness was a security guard himself
8. The movement seen in certain parts of the video.
9. And now the scene of the marina.
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Trying to visualize it -- my assumption is that the "Pepper's Ghost" aoaratus is on the inside-the-room side of the qwindow, and the rain falling on the outside. Would the rain-rippling show up like that on the reflection bouncing off the dry inside of the window?This is in accordance with my theory about this being a pepper's ghost effect in a window.
Yeah, accepted. Haven't worked that one out yet.Yalcin was the night security guard at the Yeni Kent Apartments. I don't understand how he would have access to a monitor in a Marina five miles away.
This image from post #1 seems to show differing 'curvature' in the various different ufo images. So I think thats a yes.One question about the fisheye lens hypothesis. We'd expect to get some type of "barrel" distortion like the image below.
The degree of curvature increases away from the center of the image. Is there any evidence of variation in the curvature of the object in the various Turkey clips, if they are scenes from different security cameras?
I have a hunch (and some tenuous evidence) that the same firm provides security at Yeni Kent and at the Marina (or at least they did 2007-2009). Havent got anything solid yet though.Would there have been any sort of security camera at Yeni Kent or an adjacent business? (I doubt that is knowable at this point.) As a security guard, access to THAT would seem pretty logical.
This image from post #1 seems to show differing 'curvature' in the various different ufo images. So I think thats a yes.
My own criticism of these this theory is - the curvature appears to be going the wrong way for a fish eye lens, ie the bottom of the image is turned down rather than up towards the centre as it is in barrel distortion. Perhaps there is a lens type that does this (wide angle versus fisheye?). Or perhaps the video feed is clipped to only show the top of the full frame?
All valid questions, the answers to which would all be completely speculative at the moment. If I had to suggest one, I'd speculate an open window reflecting into a security room. Maybe near this one:If, as it appears, this is some kind of Pepper's Ghost setup filmed through glass, how would he get the reflection? An angled glass pane with the security monitor pointing upward? Or maybe just a flat window with the monitor turned to face it? Maybe the hard horizontal cutoff at the bottom of the image is just the top edge of a CRT monitor filmed from behind?
I'm pretty sure (without re-reading this whole thread), that he claimed to have filmed these from an outdoor location ... so the presence of raindrops on glass seems to falsify that claim if nothing else
I'm not suggesting he did. My hypothesis is that there is a static security camera with a wide angle lens. The image from this camera is displayed on a TV screen. Our Turkish friend is pointing his camera at the TV screen and zooming in and out on it.To create a fish eye lens (essentially creating a very large field of view), you need a very small focal length. This is why you cannot make or buy a zoom lens that can go from fish eye focal length <10mm, to full zoom of say 1m focal length. Hence why you need a couple of switchable objectives on your slr.
So I don't think our Turkish friend could go from ultra wide (fish eye) to full zoom in to the ufo.
Ok, I misunderstood. I guess that is still a possibility, yes.I'm not suggesting he did. My hypothesis is that there is a static security camera with a wide angle lens. The image from this camera is displayed on a TV screen. Our Turkish friend is pointing his camera at the TV screen and zooming in and out on it.
Ok, I misunderstood. I guess that is still a possibility, yes.
Hey @Z.W. Wolf & @Mick West ,
I've been thinking about this over the weekend and your theory. I started to think what Yalcin could have used to do this, particularly as a Night Watchman or security guard. In my previous post I mentioned that I thought it could have been reflection off a convex mirror, but now I think that the 'object' could be the top half on an image from a Security Camera Monitor. Lets look at the pictures of the UFO.
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They remind me of a wide angle night vision or infra red security camera footage, not dissimilar to this. Note the bending of lines due to the optical effect of the lens.
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Also, some night-lights use an infra red illuminator to make the scene brighter. The UFO images have brighter spots like this too,
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Could he be filming a security guard's television monitor from a distance? Perhaps the lower part of the image is cut off due to a wall or a window? This is what the image might look on an old monitor
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To me, the UFO image looks like a wall or fence with gateposts and a large opening which is being illuminated by something, possibly car headlights? (I've added light source in the pic below for illustrative purposes). Could this be a security camera image from a building near the beach looking out towards the sea? Or is it somewhere completely different?
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One thing that I thought could be problem is the absence of flickering. I'd expect any video of a TV to show some element of flicker. I think it is visible in this YouTube Video at 1m10s as the exposure drops.
Source: https://youtu.be/ZHOp5oMkmL0?t=61
What do you think? Is there weight to this or am I seeing things?
I agree. The cruise ship hypothesis doesn't really fit at all.My problem with the cruise ship hypothesis: Where's the rest of the ship?
They zoom in and out and yet only that small part of the ship is illuminated?
No other windows, navigation lights?
Apparently (see page 3 of this thread) he was standing underneath a canope while filming. Possibly it had windows as well (at its right side on the photo) and I can imagine a fridge standing there:3 - The audio echo can be heard in more than one of the night videos (not just the video where we can see what strongly resembles rain on a window while also hearing what sounds exactly like heavy rain).
4 - In at least one of the night videos we can hear what also sounds like an air conditioner/fridge humming. Both that noise AND his voice are reverberating as they would do indoors. No rain. He clearly is NOT outside during the filming of these vids, but Mick's point stands: He could be indoors, but that wouldn't stop him from filming a legit object through a window.
This has also been concluded by Mario Valdez Santiago. In his report he speculates about hatches that can open and close, based on the following images:I keep coming back to this case and reviewing the video for more clues. This stabilized version is the best version to view in my opinion.
Anyway - It appears that these two frames, almost six months apart, and although on first glance they look very different , they do appear show the same 'thing'. In my theory, that this is a tv screen showing a CCTV feed - it could be a new monitor (bw to colour?) or an updated camera. Whatever it is, there's definitely a similarity between the two snippets.
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This has also been concluded by Mario Valdez Santiago. In his report he speculates about hatches that can open and close, based on the following images:
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Source: http://archivosovni2.blogspot.com/
This is pure pareidolia. Such "conclusions" have little value apart from evaluating the credulity of those who post them, and who propagate them.External Quote:In concrete, the sequence shows with acceptable clarity the moment in which one of the figures, apparently of humanoid characteristics, raises then looks and it remains for a fraction of time looking right at the front. The appearance is that of a head with two relatively big and dark eyes. Also it is possible to interpret what part of the body of the figure is left to see as a body or small torso in relation to the head. (3 and 4)
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Yeah, but if you look further in the report the alien dude has a buddy:This is pure pareidolia. Such "conclusions" have little value apart from evaluating the credulity of those who post them, and who propagate them.