Rep. Luna Requests UAP Video, With a List of Names.

[Todd Feinman]

Death and life are part of the order of things. Suffering is part of life. I don't know we are ready for any big advances; we're pretty much ruining the planet. I'd just watch us from a distance. Might be concerned if one idiot species was going to destroy everything with their stupid missiles and stop that. I'd actually work on trying to make a good portion of humanity sterile with some engineered virus to keep things in balance for the other animals on the planet if I was going down that route!

 

[MapperGuy]

You shouldn't assume that there is something to "inform the American public" about, in this regard. Various entities within the government have publicly stated that no, there is nothing to tell, no, there are no crashed UFOs in custody, and no, there are no otherworldly bodies in cold storage at Wright-Pat. But the people who want to believe otherwise refuse to be convinced, and are demanding "disclosure" when there may be nothing to disclose.

With respect to ALIENS I am quite sure there is nothing to disclose, no crashed saucers, no dead aliens, or live ones. Nobody here but us Humans.

But in their zeal the Disclosure people will try and get things released that might reveal the intel communities souces and methods, those fuzzy videos and photos, things like that that don't really disclose anything but which they want people to see so they can "make up their own minds".

 

[Todd Feinman]

With respect to ALIENS I am quite sure there is nothing to disclose, no crashed saucers, no dead aliens, or live ones. Nobody here but us Humans.

But in their zeal the Disclosure people will try and get things released that might reveal the intel communities souces and methods, those fuzzy videos and photos, things like that that don't really disclose anything but which they want people to see so they can "make up their own minds".

What the heck is going on in the SCIFs? Some people say they have seen these things close enough to see them pretty clearly --so perhaps not in LIZ --so they must be lying or just mistaken?

 

[Eburacum]

Some of them are lying, some are mistaken. The truth is never simple.

 

[JMartJr]

What the heck is going on in the SCIFs? Some people say they have seen these things close enough to see them pretty clearly --so perhaps not in LIZ --so they must be lying or just mistaken?

How highly would you rate Rep. Luna's ability to recognize something mundane but unfamiliar to her as something mundane, when she has the alternative of believing it to be evidence supporting a strongly held prior opinion? (Not picking on her exclusively, I could ask the same of Rep. Burchett or several others. In fact, I hereby do so! ^_^)

And a wonderful side-advantage of showing them in a SCIF and insisting they are too sensitive to be shown anywhere else is that people who are actually good at recognizing this stuff can't see it and spoil the fun by saying, "Wait, it's a butterfly*" or balloon or Starlink flare or...

*It is worth noting that a picture of a butterfly was touted as the "smoking gun" UFO image, with appendages projecting and a visible "field" and lasers and stuff. None of that was actually visible in the photo -- butterflies do not have laser nor do they generate visible energy fields, and while they DO have appendages these were not visible in the photo. "I aw pictures/videos of something that is definitely a structured craft made with out-of-this-world super technology" has zero value without the ability to put more eyes on it, just in case it is totally wrong and just a butterfly... https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cl...-photo-of-orb-captured-by-photographer.13182/

 

[Todd Feinman]

Right, if you listen to what they say, now including Steve Scalise, they are so vague it seems like the videos might be in the LIZ, and because they looking for unexplainable things, they were given the butterflies. Some are more surprised and definitive, like Luna, but I also wouldn't consider these folks to be able to debunk UFO butterflies much, anyway. It's all kind of getting to be farcical. I wish we could put a bunch of them under oath.

 

[Eburacum]

That really wouldn't help much. They remember what they remember, but it may not bear much relationship to the actual events. Which is why Metabunk relies largely on photos and videos, and other data that can be examined without misrepresentation and misremembering.

 

[NorCal Dave]

What the heck is going on in the SCIFs? Some people say they have seen these things close enough to see them pretty clearly --so perhaps not in LIZ --so they must be lying or just mistaken?

Another thing to keep in mind, we don't know who is presenting stuff in these SCIFs. For example, on May 1 of last year, Mellon's Disclosure Fund group put on a presentation with the UAP caucus' members Luna, Burchete, Burlison and Begich as well as Loeb, Gallaudt and Eric Davis, with Elizondo acting as host and moderator:

Note Eric Davis in the casual Friday Aloha shirt sitting next to Luna.

Davis went on to make a number of claims including the usual secret UFO crash retrieval programs:

8:23
assessment and so uh I have been exposed to so much in the classified real world that I can tell you definitively that
...the human race basically the world's biggest
governments uh like the United States our adversaries China and Russia at least as far as I know have had the uh
8:45
occasion to recover craft that have either landed or crashed or both uh in
their territory or even outside of their territories and have taken those back to they're...

And how these programs are super-duper secret, more so than nuclear weapons, are hidden from Congress and FOIA requested because of a Presidential order back in the '50s:

8:50
…the most sensitive of their
programs that they've ever had These programs are uh even more sensitive and more well hidden than uh the Manhattan project was or or the modern nuclear weapons industry and and the um US military and the department of energy
9:10
programs to uh maintain and and upgrade and modernize our nuclear weapons arsenal And so…this is one of the most well-hidden programs It is hidden from congressional oversight and always has been and it was
hidden by the action of the President Eisenhower who instituted presidential emergency action directives during his administration These directives are not shared with Congress
9:30
They were classified They and when the freedom of
information act was instituted in the 70s It is now subject those are not subjected to the freedom of information
act uh request Um this these directives provide cover for actions that are
associated with the…retrieval of these vehicles…

How it is Davis knows all of this super-duper secret stuff and can share it openly is never really addressed. On and on he went, then his presentation finished up with Elizondo recommending that members of Congress get in a classified setting with Davis to here more of his claims:

15:29
Well thank you Dr Davis My recommendation would be at some point here to get you in a classified setting( a SCIF?) like some of the rest of us and you'd already done that before and have a free conversation with some of the representatives who I think would be um really be interested to hear the other part of that conversation…

So, if Luna, seated next to Davis, or any of these other guys, got Davis in a SCIF, something I'm sure he, unlike Grusch, would love to do, no telling what yarns he regaled them with.

Just because they were in a SCIF, doesn't mean the source was reliable.

Thread on the Disclosure Fund and more of Davis, and others' UFO claims made to these same Congress people found here:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/ua...ith-house-oversight-committee-may-2025.14218/

 

[JMartJr]

Just because they were in a SCIF, doesn't mean the source was reliable.

This. Very much, this.

And that is as true for the one bringing information INTO the SCIF as it the one reporting on what they saw in there.

 

[Mendel]

How highly would you rate Rep. Luna's ability to recognize something mundane but unfamiliar to her as something mundane, when she has the alternative of believing it to be evidence supporting a strongly held prior opinion?

Compare to Louis Elizondo, who worked in Intelligence, who was so convinced all 3 Navy videos showed something abnormal that he ended his career over it, and has since presented a picture of a reflection of a ceiling light and an aerial photo of an irrigation circle as examples of alien craft.

If even someone like Elizondo can't recognize that these were phenomena with a mundane explanation, what hope do politicians have?

They really need to trust their own experts. Congress has created and funded AARO to have access to a set of experts without an agenda (the lobbying NGOs have an agenda by definition), but if you reject their findings, chances are you have an agenda yourself.

 

[Ann K]

Compare to Louis Elizondo, who worked in Intelligence, who was so convinced all 3 Navy videos showed something abnormal that he ended his career over it, and has since presented a picture of a reflection of a ceiling light and an aerial photo of an irrigation circle as examples of alien craft.

If even someone like Elizondo can't recognize that these were phenomena with a mundane explanation, what hope do politicians have?

Luna is not just a politician, though it's questionable whether her previous experience is of any use when it comes to identifying what she calls "nonhuman" creations.

Luna served as airfield management specialist in the Air National Guard from age 19, serving from 2009 to 2014. For her service, she was awarded the Air Force Achievement Medal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Paulina_Luna

Tim Burchett has a BS in education (U. Tenn./ Knoxville)
Eric Burlison has a BA in philosophy and an MBA, both from Southwest Missouri State.
(Both of these from their respective Wikipedia pages. They sound even less suited for the job of identifying airborne craft.)

 

[John J.]

Some are more surprised and definitive, like Luna, but I also wouldn't consider these folks to be able to debunk UFO butterflies much, anyway. It's all kind of getting to be farcical. I wish we could put a bunch of them under oath.

I'm not sure putting them under oath would make any difference.
Even if we assumed that everyone put under oath, mindful of its solemnity and the penalties for perjury, always tells the truth, what they believe to be true might not be objectively true.

We know that different people looking at the same photo can "see" different things. The butterfly referred to in @JMartJr's post #165 is a good example, see thread Claim: ''UAP researcher'' released clear smoking gun photo of Orb captured by photographer.
For some years many UFO enthusiasts believed George Adamski's photo of a "Venusian Scout Ship" was real; the same applies to pretty much every UFO photo unless and until it has been shown to be a hoax or misidentification. They want to believe; they place the burden of proof on sceptics.

Personally, I think it's likely Barney Hill believed he had seen a black-coated Nazi with a scarf and weird eyes, and a smiling red-headed man, looking at him from a UFO.

We know highly-trained personnel, having to make decisions about what they can see in literally life-or-death situations, can make errors in identification and misinterpret visual features, in one case misinterpreting features specifically added to aid visual recognition by the personnel concerned, post #59 in thread "How Can Highly Trained Military Pilots Possibly Misinterpret Things They See?"

We know intelligence photo analysts can misinterpret reconnaissance aircraft and satellite imagery, and draw incorrect conclusions.
And we know senior decision makers can interpret, and present, such imagery as evidence for things that do not exist. Satellite imagery was used to support the claims that Iraq had facilities for producing weapons of mass destruction in 2002-2003,

..the CIA released an unclassified version of its new National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi WMD, which contained several satellite images of Iraqi facilities of concern. Images were also released at the time President Bush gave an October 7 speech on the Iraqi issue and the following day as part of a Defense Department briefing on Iraqi denial and deception. ...Image 9 is the "Abu Ghurayb BW Facility," which Iraq claimed was a baby milk factory. U.S. intelligence had classified it as biological warfare facility since 1988, and Image 9 is one of several (including some from commercial satellites) presented in the DoD briefing in October 2002 on Iraqi denial and deception.

The National Security Archive [not a USG website], "Eyes on Saddam, U.S. Overhead Imagery of Iraq", ed. Jeffrey T. Richelson 30 April, 2003
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB88/

Many online articles still contend the Abu Ghurayb sire was a BW facility, it might have been, and was struck in the 1991 Gulf War. But this was 2002; and it is highly relevant that after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Abu Ghurayb complex was not cited as proof of a recent WMD program.

8 days after the President's speech and the release of satellite imagery, the US Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autho...ilitary_Force_Against_Iraq_Resolution_of_2002

So I'm not convinced the opinion of individual Congress members about satellite photos is necessarily dependable; and I'm not sure Congress, or Congressional hearings, is/ are always the best way to establish the objective truth about something. Scientific findings should not be determined by the vote of politicians.

Up till now, relevant agencies of the US government have made it clear that there is no testable evidence that leads them to conclude that ETI exists or that UFO sightings have any connection with ETI. There is no testable evidence anywhere of the existence of non-human technology (excepting known instances of tool-use by animals and extinct hominid species).

If the evidence Rep. Luna claims to exist is made public, it can be examined. If it is not made public, it is not evidence of ETI visiting Earth.
It would be the latest in a line of claims that the USG, US agencies or (rather improbably) defense contractors have evidence that UFOs are alien spacecraft which they're not sharing.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Even if we assumed that everyone put under oath, mindful of its solemnity and the penalties for perjury, always tells the truth, what they believe to be true might not be objectively true.

We still might be able to get to the bottom of it by comparing testimony and bringing other folks in as necessary, like a trial.

If the evidence Rep. Luna claims to exist is made public, it can be examined. If it is not made public, it is not evidence of ETI visiting Earth.
It would be the latest in a line of claims that the USG, US agencies or (rather improbably) defense contractors have evidence that UFOs are alien spacecraft which they're not sharing.

Right.

 

[John J.]

We still might be able to get to the bottom of it by comparing testimony and bringing other folks in as necessary, like a trial.

While there are some parallels between the legal process and scientific investigation, using a political or legal setting to determine facts that should be in the realm of scientific investigation would be a retrograde step.
Galileo might have agreed

It should be remembered that John Scopes was found guilty of teaching the theory of evolution, in the USA, in 1925 (Wikipedia, Scopes trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_trial).

The majority of people in the current US Congress appear to be of the opinion that Donald Trump is a President deserving of their support.

 

[JMartJr]

If even someone like Elizondo can't recognize that these were phenomena with a mundane explanation, what hope do politicians have?

My thought would be not that politicians would not be good at it (politicians come from all sorts of educational and philosophical backgrounds, I even know one former politician who was a PhD holder in organic chemistry and one of three people I have ever known who I am sure are/were geniuses!)

The problem is that THESE particular politicians in a "UFO caucus" are not that sort of politician, but DO subscribe to conspiratorial points of view. Whatever their capabilities, I suspect their inclination is to look for whatever confirms those views, not test and question them. They are not looking for the balloons and butterflies, whether or not they are capable of potting them if they WERE looking for them.

 

[Ann K]

We still might be able to get to the bottom of it by comparing testimony and bringing other folks in as necessary, like a trial.

Not if we are discussing material facts. The number (or status) of people holding a particular opinion has nothing to do with whether what they think corresponds to reality. The number who think Bigfoot exists in the forests of North America doesn't tell us anything at all about the actual existence of Bigfoot. The same is true of ghosts, werewolves, space-traveling alien visitations, or Nessie. No, if there are indeed physical objects or remains, they need to be examined by people with the appropriate expertise, such as doctors and geneticists, metallurgists, physicists, or aerospace engineers. It's not a matter for a jury to decide.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Not if we are discussing material facts. The number (or status) of people holding a particular opinion has nothing to do with whether what they think corresponds to reality. The number who think Bigfoot exists in the forests of North America doesn't tell us anything at all about the actual existence of Bigfoot. The same is true of ghosts, werewolves, space-traveling alien visitations, or Nessie. No, if there are indeed physical objects or remains, they need to be examined by people with the appropriate expertise, such as doctors and geneticists, metallurgists, physicists, or aerospace engineers. It's not a matter for a jury to decide.

To the bottom of who is telling congresspeople weird things in SCIFs and why, not the reality of the phenomenon itself! I should have been a bit more clear.
Regarding some kind of proof or evidence, we'll have to wait and see.
<edit> though I suppose a good grilling could let out some juicy stuff that could lead to evidence —or heartburn..

 

[Eburacum]

We have plenty of evidence. It just doesn't seem to point in the direction Luna assumes that it does.

 

[Todd Feinman]

We have plenty of evidence. It just doesn't seem to point in the direction Luna assumes that it does.

Not yet. Hang in there. Hope for weird stuff. You skeptics would like it if things were less boring. I am sure everything will be controvertible. When you are completely bored and disgusted and don't care anymore; that's when the truth will come out!

 

[Mauro]

If aliens were announced tomorrow, I'd predict that there's be a shrug and "well yeah of course" by most folks, and by June 1 most people would not have it cross their minds at all on an average day.

Yeah, I agree

 

[Rick Robson]

Metabunk's analysis of this incident was necessarily tentative, since we don't have access to the data; but it sounds like Luna, Gaetz and Burchett had very restricted access to the information themselves. It convinced them, rightly or wrongly (almost certainly wrongly).

Tim Burchett admitted that those extraordinary claims that Matt Gaetz was told about might be a misdirection, he said it on the record yesterday on the min. 20:20 timestamp mark of the following interview:


Source: https://youtu.be/UKKSCzEBEOI?si=l_DhhzbBUJuuKA0P


"I've heard of it but, and I talked to Matt about it actually because, you know, he didn't actually say he believed this guy, and that's another thing we have to watch out in this in the UFO UAP, I don't like UAP. I think that's a misdirection I think that's just to confuse people further, but UFO, is the misdirection. I sometimes I've talked to some guy, I was talking to a nuclear propulsion guy yesterday in my office here and I was talking about the XFiles and I said, remember the old XFiles show I think it should move from science fiction to a documentary, because, there are people out there that are trying to misdirect us, and there again, that's why I don't get too hung up on all this stuff. That guy, and Matt didn't say whether he believed him or not, but we've heard of that stuff for years, I mean before I was even in Congress, you'd read articles about people that claim that stuff. But what you need to focus on is the fact we have sworn testimony that there are recovered alien bodies. That is sworn testimony, under oath, not in a secure setting. And nobody batted an eye, nobody laughed, and you know, it was just kind of a gasp in the room that finally somebody said that. Ana it's come from so many different sources, that we need really need to get to the bottom of it. "

And, on min. 21:52, he dismissed the claims about UFO stuff hidden in Area 51:

"Now, everybody says, 'Burch, man you need to get out to Area 51 and check it out.', You know, I mean all I get from Area 51 was probably a sunburn and a cool T-shirt, OK? .... ... ... .
There's nothing there at Area 51, that's why they put it."

 

[jdog]

The thing is, of course, that "disclosure" by the federal government wouldn't be a binary, black-and-white revelation of Truth or that all reported UFO sightings were of actual UFOs.

Any "true history" of the last 70/700/7,000 years of alien interactions as revealed by government officials would face skepticism that it's the full or correct story and will likely contradict some or all of the many strands of UFO lore. (I think that's why Spielberg's Disclosure Day features a mental projection device....)

The Greys could put forward Glornak the Expositor to share the secret history of human civilization and there'd be no reason to believe all or anything of what they were claiming, especially in an era when we know digital recordings can be easily fabricated and AI systems could spin up stories with any desired amount of internal consistency.

 

[Ann K]

Not yet. Hang in there. Hope for weird stuff. You skeptics would like it if things were less boring. I am sure everything will be controvertible. When you are completely bored and disgusted and don't care anymore; that's when the truth will come out!

But you don't accept the truth that has already come out. If you prefer the "weird stuff", the fantasies, you may be doomed to disappointment.

 

[Todd Feinman]

But you don't accept the truth that has already come out. If you prefer the "weird stuff", the fantasies, you may be doomed to disappointment.

Nothing ventured nothing gained

 

[NoParty]

What the heck is going on in the SCIFs? Some people say they have seen these things close enough to see them pretty clearly --so perhaps not in LIZ --so they must be lying or just mistaken?

Some of them are lying, some are mistaken. The truth is never simple.

My money is on the trifecta:
Some are mistaken.
Some are lying.
Some are mistaken and lying.

 

[Todd Feinman]

My money is on the trifecta:
Some are mistaken.
Some are lying.
Some are mistaken and lying.

That's the appropriate skeptical stance. Full steam ahead.

 

[FatPhil]

That's the appropriate skeptical stance. Full steam ahead.

You mis-spelt "bayesian". We are absolutely *not* lacking data about people being mistaken, lying, and both.

 

[Todd Feinman]

You mis-spelt "bayesian". We are absolutely *not* lacking data about people being mistaken, lying, and both.

It's the coal in your furnace! And yes, you have a very good point, too.

 

[NorCal Dave]

Tim Burchett admitted that those extraordinary claims that Matt Gaetz was told about might be a misdirection, he said it on the record yesterday on the min. 20:20 timestamp mark of the following interview:

Some interesting bits in this interview. Santos is obviously a problematic source, but we have Burchett himself say a number of things.

However, I think Gaetz is referring to a different situation in this video than the claim discussed by @Eburacum in post #147. That was about a photo of an orb and some craft in a diamond configuration, that Gaetz saw the radar track of:

Gaetz said the pilot told him they were doing a test flight over the Gulf of Mexico on a clear day when four objects were identified on radar flying in a diamond formation.
Gaetz said he's personally seen the radar data from the incident.
"One of the pilots goes to check out that diamond formation and sees a large floating, what I can only describe as an orb, again, like I said, not have any human capability that I'm aware of," Gaetz said. "And when he approached, he said that his radar went down. He said that his FLIR (infrared camera) system malfunctioned and that he had to manually take this image from one of the lenses."

The clip of Gaetz in the Santos video, and the one Burchett is responding to is a different claim. Santos rolls the clip, and Gaetz talks about an alien-human breeding program he was told about:

So roll clip of Matt Gates there, guys. I mean, I had someone
19:25

come and brief me who was in a military uniform, worked for the United States Army that was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs

where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that that could engage in intergalactic

communication. An actual uniform member of the United States Army. Brief me on that.

non-human biologics, interracial alien mating.

This is what Burchett is responding to when he says:

20:18

Yeah, I I've heard of it, but and I talked to Matt about it actually because you know he he didn't actually say he

believed this guy

He's saying Gaetz may not believe the claim of alien-human hybrids, and he's not talking about the claim that Gaetz made about the orb photo that Eburcum was talking about.

Burchett also talks up the "missing/deceased scientist" thing:

15:03

(I) said, "Mr. President, you are the president of disclosure. you're the only one who's going to do it. Unless one of these scientists walks out of one of these labs with the proof and can put it out on YouTube before he's before he commits by shooting himself in the back
of the head 12 times or disappears like we've got 11 of these cats that have disappeared now. I mean, it's
crazy, George.

Then there is the recovered UFO claims, starting with Gaetz hearing something from the CIA:

18:00

Yeah. You've organized these hearings in front of in front of Congress. A guy says, "We have craft, we have recovery."
Matt Gates even has said, I think it was CIA. He asked somebody that or he told this um you can get mad on here, but he
said the CIA has has stated under oath that they have a recovery.

I'll note here, if true, the claim doesn't exactly say "UFO recovery", so maybe a "recovery" program of some sort. Which we know exists, that's how they ended up with a number of Soviet aircraft, radars and SAM systems.

And then his claim of sworn testimony about alien bodies:

21:13

people claim that stuff. But what you need to focus on is the fact we have sworn testimony that there are recovered

alien bodies. That is sworn testimony under oath, not in a secure setting.

He doesn't say who made this claim, but if it was someone under oath before Congress, I'm pretty sure most of them, like Grusch, have never said they saw the bodies, just that they had been told about them. Big difference.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Need to appoint an investigative panel with subpoena power, and put you folks on it! Dagnabit.

 

[Rick Robson]

However, I think Gaetz is referring to a different situation in this video than the claim discussed by @Eburacum in post #147. That was about a photo of an orb and some craft in a diamond configuration, that Gaetz saw the radar track of:

Of course it was a different reference, what I tried to highlight according to that Burchett's quote I posted is that "very restricted access to the information" doesn't actually seem to be given at SCIFs, at all.

 

[Rick Robson]

He doesn't say who made this claim, but if it was someone under oath before Congress, I'm pretty sure most of them, like Grusch, have never said they saw the bodies, just that they had been told about them. Big difference.

Well, even if you're right Burchett is also right that they really need to get to the bottom of it.

 

[Todd Feinman]

That's the appropriate skeptical stance. Full steam ahead.

I'll be hovering over the deck here, but carry on! Nothing can sink the invincible Skeptanic!

 

[Mendel]

"what you need to focus on is the fact we have sworn testimony that there are recovered alien bodies. That is sworn testimony, under oath, not in a secure setting."

What is this referring to?

Need to appoint an investigative panel with subpoena power, and put you folks on it! Dagnabit.

thanks, but AARO seems to be doing a good job

 

[NorCal Dave]

Of course it was a different reference, what I tried to highlight according to that Burchett's quote I posted is that "very restricted access to the information" doesn't actually seem to be given at SCIFs, at all.

Ok, I guess I took that different. As I've been saying, we have no idea what is actually being said in the SCIFs or by whom.

The other stuff Burchett is talking about is just the standard tropes that have been repeated for decades: There are crashed UFO retrieval programs, the US and others have crashed UFOs, there are alien bodies being held somewhere, defense contractors are reverse engineering these crashed UFOs, the government is covering it up. There is no need for any of these claims to be shared in a SCIF, though they likely are, because none of it is classified. It's all part of the zeitgeist. Everyone has heard these stories, and Burchett makes the common mistake of assuming if lots of people repeat a claim, it must be true.

Dagnabit.

Yes, I believe I counted at least 3-4 "dagnabit"s from Burchett in the parts I watched.

 

[Rick Robson]

Everyone has heard these stories, and Burchett makes the common mistake of assuming if lots of people repeat a claim, it must be true.

That's rather a common mistake of yours truly, assuming that Burchett thinks it must be true, let alone that he ever stated it must be true.

AARO seems to be doing a good job

Just one more of the standard tropes that have been repeated for decades, periodically submitted to letter salad surgery upgrades and patches.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Yes, I believe I counted at least 3-4 "dagnabit"s from Burchett in the parts I watched.

Thank you for watching the dadgum video for us.

 

[John J.]

Gaetz talks about an alien-human breeding program he was told about:

...non-human biologics, interracial alien mating.

"Biologics". To repeat a point made elsewhere, a "UFO scene" person talking about something in the context of biological science using a word that is already in widespread use in biological science with a completely different, fairly well-defined meaning.
Indicating they haven't liaised with any biologists, geneticists or relevant medical professionals to get their views about such an extraordinary claim.

If a government or government agency has access to, or evidence of, alien organisms, it is likely they would want to study them.
It would make sense to employ at least a few highly competent biologists, perhaps medical doctors (perhaps zoologists, veterinaries?)
Those professionals are not going to use the term "biologic" for an extraterrestrial organism; "biologic" is already part of their vocabulary:

Biologics are medications that come from living organisms, like proteins and genes. ...Biologic drugs are harder and more expensive to produce than normal drugs. But they may one day treat previously untreatable conditions, including cancers, genetic disorders and autoimmune diseases

"Biologics (Biologic Medicine)", Cleveland Clinic website https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/biologics-biologic-medicine;

A biologic is a therapeutic substance that is produced through a biological process (often involving biotechnology methods), rather than chemical synthesis (as for traditional pharmaceuticals). Types of biologic include antibody therapies, vaccines, gene therapies and cell therapies.

"Biologics articles from across Nature Portfolio", Nature Portfolio (publisher of Nature, other journals); https://www.nature.com/subjects/biologics

Also "'What Are "Biologics" Questions and Answers", US Food and Drug Administration https://www.fda.gov/about-fda/cente...cber/what-are-biologics-questions-and-answers;

Which raises the question, where did "biologics" come from, in the UFO narrative use of the term?
Because it is extremely unlikely it would have come from anyone who might realistically have been chosen to actually study the anatomy and physiology of a real extraterrestrial organism.
Across science, in medicine (and in the military for that matter) the use of clearly-defined, mutually understood terms is a cornerstone.

Frankly, I suspect "biologic" is a bit of pseudoscientific jargon, chosen because it sounds sciency and to get away from "ETs" and "aliens", which might be evocative of film franchises to many people.
I doubt there is any factual basis for the use of this term being used in a real study of aliens or alien cadavers anywhere on Earth now or in the past.
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Note, Gaetz says "interracial alien mating". Immature pulp horror stuff. Made me shudder.
"Interracial" is presumably meant to mean "interspecies".