Rep. Luna Requests UAP Video, With a List of Names.

[Todd Feinman]

Has he demonstrated that these unfamiliar objects are actually "craft"? We have seen everything from photo defects to butterflies misidentified. If a thing looks weird from his viewpoint, isn't he jumping to unwarranted conclusions when he decides what it is?

Ryan from Post-disclosure world discusses something that James Fox said Mellon told him, on Rogan (gads). And has some good clips of Grusch testifying and Mellon talking about satellite images:

Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exSKmNTN62c&pp=ygUQNGsgdWZvIHNhdGVsbGl0ZdIHCQneCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D&ra=m

 

[Ann K]

Ryan from Post-disclosure world discusses something that James Fox said Mellon told him, on Rogan (gads). And has some good clips of Grusch testifying and Mellon talking about satellite images:

I find the video singularly unimpressive. Grusch talks about the "overhead collection" - From satellites? Planes? He doesn't say. He says "I cannot explain them prosaically". Whoop-ti-doo.

Ryan wants to know if they're going "at velocities". He says if they have "velocities and shapes" they can tell if they're foreign or of "non-human origin". Scare-reverberations are employed to suggest the latter.

There's a statement that some things don't have exhaust, don't have wings, don't have a heat signature, but he just considers that to be mysterious, and doesn't draw the same conclusion as I do from that, that they are a lot closer and slower than he seems to think they are.

He admits that one organization disagrees with another organization, but desperately wants A to "admit" to the conclusions of B, rather than the reverse.

 

[Todd Feinman]

I find the video singularly unimpressive. Grusch talks about the "overhead collection" - From satellites? Planes? He doesn't say. He says "I cannot explain them prosaically". Whoop-ti-doo.

Ryan wants to know if they're going "at velocities". He says if they have "velocities and shapes" they can tell if they're foreign or of "non-human origin". Scare-reverberations are employed to suggest the latter.

There's a statement that some things don't have exhaust, don't have wings, don't have a heat signature, but he just considers that to be mysterious, and doesn't draw the same conclusion as I do from that, that they are a lot closer and slower than he seems to think they are.

He admits that one organization disagrees with another organization, but desperately wants A to "admit" to the conclusions of B, rather than the reverse.

That's where it's at now. We will have to see what happens. You certainly want more material to try and debunk; it's your ikigai.
I'm enjoying watching Burchett and Burlison being interviewed, Dagnabit! Burlison has a look on his face like he just came through a portal, and Burchett has a wild look in his eyes. Luna keeps her cool but looks discombobulated.

 

[MapperGuy]

There's a statement that some things don't have exhaust, don't have wings, don't have a heat signature, but he just considers that to be mysterious, and doesn't draw the same conclusion as I do from that, that they are a lot closer and slower than he seems to think they are.

A meteor before it hits the atmosphere would have no exhaust, no wings and no heat signature. Many missiles, after their solid rocket motor burns out, would have no exhaust and no wings and be flying at high speed.
Having check-lists of characteristics can be helpful, but not everything you see is going to have all of the items listed, may not have any of them. The system performing the observation may or may not be able to detect some even if they are present.
The idea that members of congress, mostly lawyers, are going to perform analysis of images or video is stretching things a bit. They will be dependent on what information they are provided by whomever is showing them the images.

The idea that everyone has a right to know about classified programs sounds good as a sound bite. But how do you inform the American public without also informing the Russian and Chinese publics at the same time.

And finally, people talk about their need to know, on subjects where there is really only a WANT to know.

 

[Ann K]

But how do you inform the American public without also informing the Russian and Chinese publics at the same time.

You shouldn't assume that there is something to "inform the American public" about, in this regard. Various entities within the government have publicly stated that no, there is nothing to tell, no, there are no crashed UFOs in custody, and no, there are no otherworldly bodies in cold storage at Wright-Pat. But the people who want to believe otherwise refuse to be convinced, and are demanding "disclosure" when there may be nothing to disclose.

A meteor before it hits the atmosphere would have no exhaust, no wings and no heat signature. Many missiles, after their solid rocket motor burns out, would have no exhaust and no wings and be flying at high speed.

True. But the former certainly has a heat signature after it reaches the atmosphere, and the latter has one before.

 

[Todd Feinman]

And finally, people talk about their need to know, on subjects where there is really only a WANT to know.

Here's an interesting question. If there was evidence of something extraterrestrial or something stranger that would scare a lot of people and destabilize things, perhaps globally —but answered the big questions about whether or not we are alone as "advanced" life in the universe, or provided some profound insight into the nature of reality, would the public have a right to know? As an ethical consideration, perhaps? Not claiming it is happening, but it could, and I'm sure there would be a plan for it (I'd hope).
I hear so many people glibly say "Oh yeah! Oh yeah! People are ready for contact.."
Are we? I don't think so. You certainly wouldn't want to have to interact on daily basis with the weird stuff (most people). So what would tolerable contact look like?

 

[FatPhil]

Ryan wants to know if they're going "at velocities". He says if they have "velocities and shapes" they can tell if they're foreign or of "non-human origin". Scare-reverberations are employed to suggest the latter.

What would really clinch it for me would be if these things are made from unknown alloys. I just need to hear you say that we don't know what alloys they're made from, Ann, and I'll finally believe.

 

[Ann K]

What would really clinch it for me would be if these things are made from unknown alloys. I just need to hear you say that we don't know what alloys they're made from, Ann, and I'll finally believe.

Metallurgists concoct new alloys all the time. If "we" don't know (for any definition of "we") that doesn't mean that nobody knows.

 

[Todd Feinman]

What would really clinch it for me would be if these things are made from unknown alloys. I just need to hear you say that we don't know what alloys they're made from, Ann, and I'll finally believe.

You'll be a believer! Better than being an alien, butt…
Reincarnated, now I'm a retriever!
Please just one more alloy, monsieur, it's wafer-thin..

Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C65zqVV6Bw8&list=RDC65zqVV6Bw8&start_radio=1&pp=ygUaaSdtIGEgYmVsaWV2ZXIgbW9ua2VlcyB1Zm-gBwE%3D&ra=m

 

[Todd Feinman]

Newsweek article:
PUBLISHED APR 29, 2026 AT 01:49 PM

Congresswoman Promises to Show Things of 'Nonhuman Origin'

"Representative Anna Paulina Luna promised to hold a press conference addressing what she described as materials or information of "nonhuman origin," a move that comes as pressure mounts on the Pentagon over delayed releases of unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAP, footage."

Full article:
https://www.newsweek.com/ufo-update...es-to-show-things-of-nonhuman-origin-11893270

 

[NorCal Dave]

Congresswoman Promises to Show Things of 'Nonhuman Origin' https://www.newsweek.com/ufo-update...es-to-show-things-of-nonhuman-origin-11893270

The kicker:

"I have seen evidence in a SCIF that leads me to believe there are things we cannot explain," Luna said. "I have observed things that are of nonhuman origin and creation. That's my opinion."

So, it's her "opinion" that some stuff she saw in a SCIF led her to "believe" there are things some people, like her, can't explain. I guess that's sufficiently vague as usual. Maybe she saw something she could't explain. Maybe someone told her what she saw can't be explained. This leaves open the possibility that it CAN be explained, just not by her or whoever she was talking to in the SCIF. I guess we'll find out:

Later in the interview, she added: "When it's declassified, I will have a press conference, and I'll show you exactly what we saw."

"I think that the American people will have many of their questions answered," she said.

Good lord, the article goes on to talk about the Crypto-alien theory:

In 2024, a study by Harvard social science researchers suggested that aliens could be living underground on Earth or on the moon, and that UFOs and other unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) might be evidence of them getting around.

Discussion of the Havard paper here:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cl...on-the-dark-side-of-the-moon-or-alaska.13504/

 

[Todd Feinman]

I guess we'll find out:

Strange days indeed..

 

[JMartJr]

Here's an interesting question. If there was evidence of something extraterrestrial or something stranger that would scare a lot of people and destabilize things, perhaps globally —but answered the big questions about whether or not we are alone as "advanced" life in the universe, or provided some profound insight into the nature of reality, would the public have a right to know? As an ethical consideration, perhaps?
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I hear so many people glibly say "Oh yeah! Oh yeah! People are ready for contact.."
Are we

I think it is pretty evident that we're "ready" for being told there is extraterrestrial life -- there is not constant polling on this, but at least in the US the majority seems to already assume that there is life in the Universe other than here.

New YouGov polling finds that most Americans believe aliens exist, and many think that aliens have paid a visit to Earth in recent years. Americans are more likely to believe alien encounters would have a negative effect on human civilization than to think it would have a positive effect, and many believe that aliens would bring new diseases and unintentional harm or outright hostility to people if we were to encounter them.

So while noting that a lot of people assume negative consequences from aliens visiting,

56% of Americans believe aliens definitely or probably exist, more than the shares of Americans who believe Bigfoot (28%), the Yeti (23%), the Loch Ness monster (22%), or Chupacabra (16%) definitely or probably exist.

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30% of Americans believe UFOs, or unidentified flying objects, are probably alien ships or life forms

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Americans are almost evenly divided on whether aliens have visited Earth in recent years: 42% say they definitely or probably have and 41% say they definitely or probably have not.

The on-topic take-away I get from all that is that large numbers of us think that aliens have already visited us or are doing so now, and while a lot of us would expect a negative outcome from "contact," the substantial number who believe they're here already are not panicking. Confirming that something we already think is real is, in fact, real would seem to not be particularly dangerous!

The parallel in my mind is if the government were to anno8nce that dangerous venomous snakes are around where I live. I'm not trilled about it, but I already am convinced they are here (killed one with a shovel last year (I do not mind snakes existing, they are not allowed in my yard where I and people/cats I care about walk around!) and would not be more worried if the government confirmed it.

(Heck, where we are as a society right now, if aliens were announced to be here and in contact with us, and ample proof offered, one or the other political faction would refuse to believe it! See: COVID-19)

If aliens were announced tomorrow, I'd predict that there's be a shrug and "well yeah of course" by most folks, and by June 1 most people would not have it cross their minds at all on an average day.

PS: The non-on-topic thing that struck me was that there are substantially more people who believe aliens are definitely or probably visiting the Earth (42%) than there are those who believe UFOs probably represent aliens (30%) Perhaps they ave not thought about it enough to formulate an opinion, and the discrepancy emerges from the survey script, but I would be curious how that 12% thinks the aliens are getting here! (I cam think of a couple fo ways people might think aliens are arriving (teleporters, for example) but I have never heard anybody say "I think aliens are here, but they are not arriving via UFO!)

 

[Smythe Bacchus]

Maybe she saw something she could't explain. Maybe someone told her what she saw can't be explained. This leaves open the possibility that it CAN be explained, just not by her or whoever she was talking to in the SCIF.

Based on the history of "evidence" produced thus far, I'd say this is almost a certainty.

Big UFO is like a penny stock company that announces all kinds of optimistic plans and then goes silent until the next capital raising is announced. Past plans remain vaguely "in progress" and eventually disappear without explanation, replaced with a new optimistic plan for something else.

@Mick West is it possible to add a facepalm reaction to Metabunk?