Rep. Luna Requests UAP Video, With a List of Names.

[Todd Feinman]

Has he demonstrated that these unfamiliar objects are actually "craft"? We have seen everything from photo defects to butterflies misidentified. If a thing looks weird from his viewpoint, isn't he jumping to unwarranted conclusions when he decides what it is?

Ryan from Post-disclosure world discusses something that James Fox said Mellon told him, on Rogan (gads). And has some good clips of Grusch testifying and Mellon talking about satellite images:

Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exSKmNTN62c&pp=ygUQNGsgdWZvIHNhdGVsbGl0ZdIHCQneCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D&ra=m

 

[Ann K]

Ryan from Post-disclosure world discusses something that James Fox said Mellon told him, on Rogan (gads). And has some good clips of Grusch testifying and Mellon talking about satellite images:

I find the video singularly unimpressive. Grusch talks about the "overhead collection" - From satellites? Planes? He doesn't say. He says "I cannot explain them prosaically". Whoop-ti-doo.

Ryan wants to know if they're going "at velocities". He says if they have "velocities and shapes" they can tell if they're foreign or of "non-human origin". Scare-reverberations are employed to suggest the latter.

There's a statement that some things don't have exhaust, don't have wings, don't have a heat signature, but he just considers that to be mysterious, and doesn't draw the same conclusion as I do from that, that they are a lot closer and slower than he seems to think they are.

He admits that one organization disagrees with another organization, but desperately wants A to "admit" to the conclusions of B, rather than the reverse.

 

[Todd Feinman]

I find the video singularly unimpressive. Grusch talks about the "overhead collection" - From satellites? Planes? He doesn't say. He says "I cannot explain them prosaically". Whoop-ti-doo.

Ryan wants to know if they're going "at velocities". He says if they have "velocities and shapes" they can tell if they're foreign or of "non-human origin". Scare-reverberations are employed to suggest the latter.

There's a statement that some things don't have exhaust, don't have wings, don't have a heat signature, but he just considers that to be mysterious, and doesn't draw the same conclusion as I do from that, that they are a lot closer and slower than he seems to think they are.

He admits that one organization disagrees with another organization, but desperately wants A to "admit" to the conclusions of B, rather than the reverse.

That's where it's at now. We will have to see what happens. You certainly want more material to try and debunk; it's your ikigai.
I'm enjoying watching Burchett and Burlison being interviewed, Dagnabit! Burlison has a look on his face like he just came through a portal, and Burchett has a wild look in his eyes. Luna keeps her cool but looks discombobulated.

 

[MapperGuy]

There's a statement that some things don't have exhaust, don't have wings, don't have a heat signature, but he just considers that to be mysterious, and doesn't draw the same conclusion as I do from that, that they are a lot closer and slower than he seems to think they are.

A meteor before it hits the atmosphere would have no exhaust, no wings and no heat signature. Many missiles, after their solid rocket motor burns out, would have no exhaust and no wings and be flying at high speed.
Having check-lists of characteristics can be helpful, but not everything you see is going to have all of the items listed, may not have any of them. The system performing the observation may or may not be able to detect some even if they are present.
The idea that members of congress, mostly lawyers, are going to perform analysis of images or video is stretching things a bit. They will be dependent on what information they are provided by whomever is showing them the images.

The idea that everyone has a right to know about classified programs sounds good as a sound bite. But how do you inform the American public without also informing the Russian and Chinese publics at the same time.

And finally, people talk about their need to know, on subjects where there is really only a WANT to know.

 

[Ann K]

But how do you inform the American public without also informing the Russian and Chinese publics at the same time.

You shouldn't assume that there is something to "inform the American public" about, in this regard. Various entities within the government have publicly stated that no, there is nothing to tell, no, there are no crashed UFOs in custody, and no, there are no otherworldly bodies in cold storage at Wright-Pat. But the people who want to believe otherwise refuse to be convinced, and are demanding "disclosure" when there may be nothing to disclose.

A meteor before it hits the atmosphere would have no exhaust, no wings and no heat signature. Many missiles, after their solid rocket motor burns out, would have no exhaust and no wings and be flying at high speed.

True. But the former certainly has a heat signature after it reaches the atmosphere, and the latter has one before.

 

[Todd Feinman]

And finally, people talk about their need to know, on subjects where there is really only a WANT to know.

Here's an interesting question. If there was evidence of something extraterrestrial or something stranger that would scare a lot of people and destabilize things, perhaps globally —but answered the big questions about whether or not we are alone as "advanced" life in the universe, or provided some profound insight into the nature of reality, would the public have a right to know? As an ethical consideration, perhaps? Not claiming it is happening, but it could, and I'm sure there would be a plan for it (I'd hope).
I hear so many people glibly say "Oh yeah! Oh yeah! People are ready for contact.."
Are we? I don't think so. You certainly wouldn't want to have to interact on daily basis with the weird stuff (most people). So what would tolerable contact look like?

 

[FatPhil]

Ryan wants to know if they're going "at velocities". He says if they have "velocities and shapes" they can tell if they're foreign or of "non-human origin". Scare-reverberations are employed to suggest the latter.

What would really clinch it for me would be if these things are made from unknown alloys. I just need to hear you say that we don't know what alloys they're made from, Ann, and I'll finally believe.

 

[Ann K]

What would really clinch it for me would be if these things are made from unknown alloys. I just need to hear you say that we don't know what alloys they're made from, Ann, and I'll finally believe.

Metallurgists concoct new alloys all the time. If "we" don't know (for any definition of "we") that doesn't mean that nobody knows.