BAASS Ten Month Report 2009 - Leaked Document

[MonkeeSage]

their DIA sponsors somehow never corrected them.

Senator Harry Reid wrote a letter to Deputy Secretary of Defense, William Lynn, dated June 24, 2009, requesting the establishment of a SAP for AATIP.

Since the Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program (AAITP [sic]) and study were first commissioned, much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace~related findings. Given the current rate of success, the continued study of these subjects will likely lead to technology advancements that in the immediate near-term will require extraordinary protection. Due to the sensitivities of the information surrounding aspects of this program, I require your assistance in establishing a Restricted Special-Access-Program (SAP) with a Bigoted Access List for specific portions of the AATIP.

Source: https://documents2.theblackvault.co...090624_Reid_to_DEPSECDEF_ref_AAITP_in_SAP.pdf

After reviewing the program, DIA wrote in a memo to OUSDI dated November 13, 2009, that Reid was actually referring to AAWSAP as AATIP, and they could not justify a SAP for the program based on the unclassified nature of their deliverables and projected future products.

(U//FOUO) This info memo responds to your request for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) [redacted] to evaluate a request from Senator Harry Reid (enclosure 1) to establish a restricted special access program (SAP) for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Application Program Contract, referred to in Senator Reid's letter as the Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program (AATIP). In reviewing the deliverables to date and looking ahead to planned production in fiscal year (FY) 2010, DIA cannot find adequate justification to establish a restricted SAP.

(U//FOUO) All program documents delivered to during FY 2009 (the first year of the program) were unclassified because the contractor had not established a secure facility, and program employees were being vetted for clearances. In FY 2010, most research products will remain at the unclassified level. However, four to six of the original technical reports will be expanded to included classified data. These reports will focus on foreign research in a particular technology area and will likely be derivatively classified at the secret level. Based on classification levels of current and projected program deliverables, there are insufficient grounds to classify this open program, invoke alternative or compensatory control measures (ACCM), or establish a restricted SAP.

Source: https://documents2.theblackvault.co...-Review_of_Special_Access_Program_Request.pdf

In an information packet provided to DepSecDef sometime after November 17, 2009, James Clapper wrote the following summary.

Senator Harry Reid sent a letter to you on June 24, 2009 requesting the Department of Defense put the AAITP [sic] under 'Restricted Special Access Protection'(Tab A). The AAITP [sic] that SEN Reid refers to is officially the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Application Program (AAWSAP) contract managed by DIA. Its primary purpose is to investigate revolutionary advances in future aerospace technologies with emphasis on research of unconventional and revolutionary technologies. The sole bid for the contract was from Bigelow Aerospace Advance Space Studies located in Las Vegas, NV. The resulting contract was for multiple sub-contractors to perform unclassified research in 11 technical areas and deliver technical reports on those areas by July 31, 2009. [redacted] directed a quality review of the technical reports that DIA completed in October 2009.

In late October 2009, DIA completed the technical review of the program deliverables (Tab B) and provided USD(I) SAPCO the current status of the AAWSAP. The program manager and his leadership advised that they saw no justification for Special Access protections based on the content of the FY09 deliverables or the anticipated FY10 work. This recommendation is formally stated and outlined in the attached memorandum from [redacted] (Tab C).

Senators Reid and Inouye co-sponsored a $10M earmark in the July 2008 supplemental to fund this DIA effort to look at potential future aerospace weapons threats. A $12M earmark has been allocated to support the program in FY2010.

Based on the recommendation from DIA and my staffs review of the technical reports, I recommend against establishing a Special Access Program at this time.

Source: https://documents2.theblackvault.co...09117-Final_Packet_Presented_to_DepSecDef.pdf

When AAWSAP was shut down by DIA in FY10, and a new SAP was pitched to DHS called KONA BLUE, which included references to proposed technology transfer, it was rejected in FY11 because it had inadequate "justifications for establishment as a SAP" (see previous mentioned thread https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cl...aterials-from-crashed-ufos.13773/#post-328095).

I would argue DIA, OUSDI and DHS all rejecting the need for classification does strongly indicate that they did not believe any secret technology would be transferred to the program.

 

[NorCal Dave]

It's one thing to say Puthoff seeded these ideas, but quite another to explain why BAASS produced structured plans, why Vallee corroborates the same expectations,

Puthoff has been making these claims for years. He was HEAVILY involved in both of Bigelow's UFO/paranormal endeavors NIDS and BAASS. Bigelow invested thousands of dollars of his own money to study stuff at Skinwalker Ranch with NIDS, largely on the recommendations of Puthoff, Knapp and a few others.

In addition to expressing these beliefs about crashed UFOs, Puthoff often express interest in gaining access to them. Something his colleague Davis repeated a couple of months ago to some Congress people. Both Puthoff, Davis and Green were involved in NIDS and BAASS, Green to a lesser extent. As @Tezcatlipoca noted above, they are part of a nexus of UFO believers and story tellers.

Puthoff, along with Davis, Green, Knapp and others convinced Bigelow the US government/defense contractors had crashed UFOs, so he planned a SCIF like area to study some of the parts they convinced themselves they were going to get a hold of.

Vallee, as far as I know, just confirms that Puthoff, Davis and Green THOUGHT various defense contractors had UFOs and that Bigelow THOUGHT he might get a hold of them.

It's a fantasy fueled by a billionaire and public tax dollars.

and why DIA officials never disabused them.

There seems to be only one (1) DIA official that supervised the BAASS contract, James Lacatski. He was the same person that wrote the Request For Proposal (RFP) for AAWSAP after he had a "vision" at Skinwalker Ranch. Lacatski's RFP ONLY asked for speculative papers about future technology. Nothing about wierdshitology at Skinwalker Ranch and NOTHING about technology transfers from anyone:

Bigelow founded BAASS specifically to bid on the AWWSAP RFP, and was conveniently, the sole bidder. The bid offered went way beyond what the RFP asked for. According the book by Lacatski and Kelleher, who ran BAASS, this was how the above RFP was responded to (bold by me):

By 10 September 2008, a single proposal had been received by DIA. In satisfaction of the requirements in the statement of objectives, BAASS proposed the following nine approaches:

First Approach—Global Data Collection BAASS will initiate a thorough, detailed high-caliber data base about what has been seen, recorded or measured

Second Approach—Contact Program A second approach is to seek out and contact scientists, engineers and companies that may have access to novel technologies;

Third Approach—Laboratory Program BAASS would like to carefully use the property it owns in the Uintah Basin of Utah and the Uintah Basin in general as a living laboratory.

Fourth Approach—Collect Oral Histories As an adjunct to the above second approach, we consider it important to mount an effort to collect oral histories from a host of credible individuals

Fifth Approach—Potential Use of Bigelow Aerospace Space Platforms Therefore, our fifth suggested approach involves facilitating such research on board space platforms that Bigelow Aerospace intends to fabricate and deploy in low earth orbit in coming years.

Sixth Approach—DIA Data Access A sixth area of opportunity, of course, lies with the DIA itself. Elimination of waste of time and money to acquire material or data of any kind already in the possession of various aerospace and electronics contractors, and by components of the intelligence community,

Seventh Approach—Biological Effects of Advanced Technologies This seventh approach addresses biological effects and human effects in particular.

Eighth Approach—Remote Sensing As an adjunct to satisfying the specific technical requirements of the program, an eighth approach is the implementation of a high-quality remote sensing ("remote viewing") program.

Ninth Approach—Expert Analysis and Synthesis

pg: 22-24
Kelleher, Colm A.. Skinwalkers at the Pentagon: An Insiders' Account of the Secret Government UFO Program. RTMA, LLC. Kindle Edition.

Note:

• Only the 2nd approach even vaguely resembles what is asked for in the RFP.
• The 8th approach is throwing a bone to Puthoff, as he still thinks people like Geller and Swan could see remote things.
• The 3rd approach is using tax payer money to continue NIDS at Skinwalker Ranch.
• And importantly, it's in the 6th approach that BAASS brings up the unsolicited idea of getting a hold of "material" and "data" possessed by contractors.

Despite none of the above being in the RFP, BAASS as the sole bidder had Lacatski go along:

In response to the BAASS proposal, DIA awarded a two-year AAWSAP contract (HHM402-08-C-0072) commencing on September 22, 2008. Approaches 1-4, 6, and 9 were accepted for a cost of $10 million for the 1st year.

pg: 25

After bringing it up, one could argue Lacatski MAY have encouraged the BAASS people to think they were getting some sort of "material", though it could have just meant they might have had access to some "data". It's a bit vague.

There is NO mention in the RFP of materials or transfers of said materials. IF Lacatski led the BAASS people on in their beliefs about UFO parts, it was likely him alone and not the entirety of the DIA. He was overseeing a contract that was sending tax payer money to BAASS to study the migration patterns of bipedal 7' tall were-wolves at Bigelow's own Skinwalker Ranch. It was a boondoggle, best kept on the down low, which Lacatski did for as long as he could.

A similar pattern repeats in the KONA BLUE saga. Puthoff, Lacatski and others meet with higher ups at DHS and talk about sensor arrays and other technology BAASS supposedly had.They meet with lower level folks and tell them stories of crashed UFOs. It's only after KONA BLUE is slated for approval, that the BAASS guys insert technology transfer type language. The program is eventually not approved.

BAASS included a core group of long time crashed UFO believers who have been fantasizing for years about gaining access to said UFOs. They may have thought AWWSAP and Lacatski were finally their way in. Lacatski may have been complacent in that, but I don't think he represented the DIA or DOD.

 

[MapperGuy]

It's one thing to say Puthoff seeded these ideas, but quite another to explain why BAASS produced structured plans, why Vallee corroborates the same expectations, and why DIA officials never disabused them. That doesn't sound like self-belief. Sounds like an expectation shaped by signals from the very government customers funding them. The simpler explanation isn't mass self-delusion, but that they were led to believe access might come, and it just didn't.

BAASS producing detail plans would be part of them demonstrating their ability and readiness to use whatever money or material was given to them. You don't get funds on the promise that you will think, later, how you are going to use it. You need to demonstrate you have plans and the personnel and facilities needed to execute on those plans from day one.

How much of their planning was being passed on DIA or others is a question. Just telling a liaison that you are working on plans isn't enough, you need to be thorough and maintain contact, providing documentation. Anticipating you don't need to do all that, because you have friends in high places (like Congress) may not help that much, if the agencies find your plans inadequate.

 

[Mendel]

When AAWSAP was shut down by DIA in FY10,

Reading the exchange compressed like that, I get the feeling that their effort to create a SAP is what prompted the review that got this 5-year program shut down prematurely: had they not attempted to convert it to a SAP (likely at Elizondo's suggestion), BAASS might well have profited from the full five years of funding for AAWSAP.

 

[orianda]

BAASS producing detail plans would be part of them demonstrating their ability and readiness to use whatever money or material was given to them. You don't get funds on the promise that you will think, later, how you are going to use it. You need to demonstrate you have plans and the personnel and facilities needed to execute on those plans from day one.

How much of their planning was being passed on DIA or others is a question. Just telling a liaison that you are working on plans isn't enough, you need to be thorough and maintain contact, providing documentation. Anticipating you don't need to do all that, because you have friends in high places (like Congress) may not help that much, if the agencies find your plans inadequate.

Fair point that contractors often draft detailed plans to show readiness. But what strikes me here is that BAASS's plans weren't just generic/ boilerplate. They included very specific operational assumptions (vaults for exotic materials, transfer protocols, references to contractor hand-offs.) It goes well beyond the usual grant-writing fluff.

So the puzzle remains...if this was just readiness theater, why would BAASS, Vallee, and others independently echo the same expectations in detail?

 

[Mendel]

But what strikes me here is that BAASS's plans weren't just generic/ boilerplate. They included very specific operational assumptions (vaults for exotic materials, transfer protocols, references to contractor hand-offs.) It goes well beyond the usual grant-writing fluff.

Could you quote that here, please?

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

Reading the exchange compressed like that, I get the feeling that their effort to create a SAP is what prompted the review that got this 5-year program shut down prematurely: had they not attempted to convert it to a SAP (likely at Elizondo's suggestion), BAASS might well have profited from the full five years of funding for AAWSAP.

From my understanding we actually know this to be accurate already. The decisions to close AAWSAP and close out the BAASS contract most literally were a direct result of them trying to turn it into a SAP.
This may sound a bit weird to flat pair but it makes more sense when it's recognized (as reported on also) that they actively lied to their bosses at places like DIA. So, the leaders & managers that generally would have 'seen' it likely were not, until the SAP requests came out and higher eyes elsewhere started asking questions about it in their usual preparatory research to make their SAP decision.

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

Fair point that contractors often draft detailed plans to show readiness. But what strikes me here is that BAASS's plans weren't just generic/ boilerplate. They included very specific operational assumptions (vaults for exotic materials, transfer protocols, references to contractor hand-offs.) It goes well beyond the usual grant-writing fluff.

So the puzzle remains...if this was just readiness theater, why would BAASS, Vallee, and others independently echo the same expectations in detail?

Don't mean this in a rude way but I think you're hunting for the puzzle here rather than it fully existing.

We know many of these guys lie about things. Even per the documents here, if authentic, their predicate for these beliefs is NOT that they think it is just going to happen because of others. They think it is going to happen because they were running efforts to make it appear so, and also to gain access to these things they respectively believed existed/lied about.
Based off what we already know to be misperceptions or lies about what is actually in those other programs, it is also likely that, if there was any organic misperceptions, it likely rooted from their other concerted effort to spread these theories, as a defined way to gain access to programs they were already kept out. They were kept out of these other programs, sure, because they don't have NTK. But what started the chain of them being prevented access? They already tried to go find UFOs there and were kept out.

I love narrowing on the Lockheed-Martin saga here. Per Elizondos book, he details BAASS attempting to obtain a piece of technology that Lockheed-Martin had on loan from the CIA. Interestingly from what I remember from that snippet, Elizondo does not actually define this as anything UAP related in the book. Although the surrounding details very much make it seem like it's the root of their whole Lockheed reference saga. They apparently did get their hands on it temporarily, and tried to obfuscate administrative details about it post-receipt to prevent Lockheed from regaining access to it and preventing the CIA from getting it back.
The thing is, not even just from Elizondos references in the book, but the BAASS documents here would actually corroborate this - this is actual theft. They tried to steal CIA technology per their own description of that event.

So, why did they think a trade-off might happen? Well.... They tried to run an influence campaign to get executives to give them access without NTK and based on a concerted effort to compile NTK materials for personal interest (espionage). When that failed, they then actively deceived people to obtain access to the very technology that the official transfers never materialized for. When they failed at this, they came to tell the public about Lockheed Martin having UFOs and working with the media and politicians to try and force the same thing at a political level.
Rather than any external weight, we see a series here of internal weights being used to reinforce one another. The failures to achieve these are then wholly externalized to place the fault on others. There could be external weights still, but given what we know about the narrative dynamics overall, there is a very good chance (I'd wager more than not) that it'd, at the least, be an incidental circle of something that was started equally as baseless decades before.
As we know also, the game of telephone here involves the same people stretching back for decades. I like using Doty as an example because he's part of this network and his disinformation features as prominent artifacts in most current theory sets. We see it continously surface with these groups also (eg the "EBE" references made during BAASS pursuits is a term Doty, Green, and Puthoff came up with during a literal disinformation campaign).