If you interpret skepticism as condescension you're bound to give yourself a bad time. Your trajectory can only be as a moth to a flame.
You have to understand that skeptical attack must take place upon any concept before one accepts/believes it. Hopefully you would mount this yourself, using your own reasoning and logic, before you get to us, but if your spirit were genuinely "good" you would see that we are trying to rescue you from a delusional state which, from our own experience, we know you're better off without.
You cannot explain how a mind-commanding system which relies on locally-applied electromagnets can possibly be operated remotely as a weapon (of "suggestion"). The answer is it cannot. If you use anything other than locally-applied electromagnets, you cannot duplicate the local effects.
You could crisp your victims, of course, but that's a different weapon (and you'll not find the parts in a local hardware store!). Also a Faraday Shield is a perfect defense against both types of weapon, and graphene the perfect material for the shield. It could be almost weightless.
Refuted.
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Maybe they used Frey's research on the Microwave Auditory Effect. Sharp and Grove successfully transmitted words via microwave decades ago.Nonlethal weapon which includes (1) a neuro-electromagnetic device which uses microwave transmission of sound into the skull of persons or animals by way of pulse-modulated microwave radiation; and (2) a silent sound device which can transmit sound into the skull of person or animals. NOTE: The sound modulation may be voice or audio subliminal messages. One application of V2K is use as an electronic scarecrow to frighten birds in the vicinity of airports.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/05/army-removes-pa/
The microwave auditory effect, also known as the microwave hearing effect or the Frey effect, consists of audible clicks (or, with modulation, whole words) induced by pulsed/modulated microwave frequencies. The clicks are generated directly inside the human head without the need of any receiving electronic device. Sharp and Grove developed 'receiverless' wireless voice transmission technologies for the Advanced Research Projects Agency at Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, in 1973.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
Which is why I didn't base it on nothing.Asserting things to be impossible, based on nothing, is not a service to yourselves or anyone.
Sorry. I quite forgot.And this thread was about aluminum content, not a weapon out of fiction.
Are you recommending Tin Foil Hats, as a defense?Which is why I didn't base it on nothing.
The effects of a remote microwave device are easily prevented by means of a Faraday Cage, which need be no more than graphene gauze, these days. Any such weapon could easily be detected (by a sweeping scanner/receiver*) and then circumvented, and that's the reason why such devices don't get past the test phase. Yes, it works, but, no, it's useless, except for a once-only bash. That was said of chaff, of course, and it's still used. But people aren't missiles with unintelligent radar systems, and aren't so easily fooled.
Truthers already have the defense sorted out, of course, although the present version leaves gaps in its defense, and the wrap-around version would make one easy to distinguish in street riots...
* I worked on such a detector, er, thirty-two years ago. For a very brief period. The man that employed me then is doing eighty years in Los Angeles jail right now, last time I heard.
Only for those with anything to lose. That would be those that didn't need confirmation. If you need it, then you don't.Are you recommending Tin Foil Hats, as a defense?
Water injection has been used for many years for brief augmentation of the thrust of jet engines and more recently, water injection is used to control the formation of NOx in gas turbines.. http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~kenneth-weston/chapter9.pdf
Some turbocharged diesel engines also use water injection to enhance power and efficiency. http://www.methanol-injection.co.uk/info.php
It would make perfect sense for modern jet engines to inject waste water from the sewerage onboard system to enhance engine performance and/or fuel effeciency (for free) while getting rid of unneeded onboard weight and waste. Urea and methane would act as an additional fuel source and the chemical agents in the flushing water may be specially formulated to help create aerosols for high altitude cloud seeding. Even solid sewerage and toilet paper could be injected and atomised as additional fuel with negligible harm to the environment, other than cloud seeding. Aircraft designers, engineers and technicians would consider the strategy to be quite ingenious and treat the subject as “tricks of the trade” to keep the public ignorant of the “dirty details.” So this possible cloud seeding strategy has the perfect disguise as well.
Water injection has been used for many years for brief augmentation of the thrust of jet engines and more recently, water injection is used to control the formation of NOx in gas turbines.. http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~kenneth-weston/chapter9.pdf
Some turbocharged diesel engines also use water injection to enhance power and efficiency. http://www.methanol-injection.co.uk/info.php
It would make perfect sense for modern jet engines to inject waste water from the sewerage onboard system to enhance engine performance and/or fuel effeciency (for free) while getting rid of unneeded onboard weight and waste. Urea and methane would act as an additional fuel source and the chemical agents in the flushing water may be specially formulated to help create aerosols for high altitude cloud seeding. Even solid sewerage and toilet paper could be injected and atomised as additional fuel with negligible harm to the environment, other than cloud seeding. Aircraft designers, engineers and technicians would consider the strategy to be quite ingenious and treat the subject as “tricks of the trade” to keep the public ignorant of the “dirty details.” So this possible cloud seeding strategy has the perfect disguise as well.
Water injection has been used for many years for brief augmentation of the thrust of jet engines and more recently, water injection is used to control the formation of NOx in gas turbines.. http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~kenneth-weston/chapter9.pdf
Some turbocharged diesel engines also use water injection to enhance power and efficiency. http://www.methanol-injection.co.uk/info.php
It would make perfect sense for modern jet engines to inject waste water from the sewerage onboard system to enhance engine performance and/or fuel effeciency (for free) while getting rid of unneeded onboard weight and waste. Urea and methane would act as an additional fuel source and the chemical agents in the flushing water may be specially formulated to help create aerosols for high altitude cloud seeding. Even solid sewerage and toilet paper could be injected and atomised as additional fuel with negligible harm to the environment, other than cloud seeding. Aircraft designers, engineers and technicians would consider the strategy to be quite ingenious and treat the subject as “tricks of the trade” to keep the public ignorant of the “dirty details.” So this possible cloud seeding strategy has the perfect disguise as well.
It's obvious the vapor clouds behind modern jet aircraft are lasting longer then decades ago
Mikam, this is the main claim behind the whole "chemtrails" idea, and it's completely baseless. Before you go into trying to reverse-engineer how one could install an injection system on a plane, you should examine this part closely. How long do you think vapor clouds used to persist?It's obvious the vapor clouds behind modern jet aircraft are lasting longer then decades ago
Rather than speculating about this can we hear from someone who works on these engines?
I'm one of the (former) aircraft mechanics on this forum and I also have a degree in aerospace technology. Like I said, you can't just go dumping stuff into a jet engine like it was a garbage disposal. Urine contains a high concentration of minerals so it wouldn't be long before mineral deposits would destroy the engine. Then there is the fact that over the course of routine maintenance any unauthorized or unexpected equipment would be quickly discovered. Like others have said, you have yet to establish that persistent contrails are lasting longer than in the past. Here's a hint... airplanes in WWII would sometimes leave contrails that lasted for many hours.
Can anyone provide facts and credible sources of information to prove that modern jet airliners do NOT have water injection facilities in the engines or exhaust?
They must be hiding the cloud seeding chemicals somewhere in the commercial aircraft.
Source, please?1. Climate data indicates that global cloud cover has increased on average by about 20% in the last 40 years (reports don’t say if this is high or low altitude) and there seems to have been a steeper increase in that trend from about 15 years ago as if by some clever human intervention.
The use of passenger aircraft has increased significantly from 15 years ago.I don’t know that atmospheric pollution has increased significantly from about 15 years ago
I am a materials and corrosion engineer. There are too many factor involved in this debate to make a definite statement about what is possible or not. I don't believe injection nozzles would be positioned in plain view because they would be eroded away by the combustion gases within hours. There are also cooling air streams built into the engines. Water could be injected into the cooling streams. Physics and chemistry work very differently under extremely fast dynamic conditions compared with relatively static or laboratory physics and chemistry. I don't know enough on the subject but trying to think outside the square to solve this mystery without being stupid or resorting to science fiction as some do. It's obvious the vapor clouds behind modern jet aircraft are lasting longer then decades ago and if fuel additives were responsible why aren't there at least a few whistle-blowers telling us. We have virtually zero military or experimental aircraft flying in NZ where I live but we still see all these chemtrails. They must be hiding the cloud seeding chemicals somewhere in the commercial aircraft. Rather than speculating about this can we hear from someone who works on these engines?
I am a materials and corrosion engineer.
We have virtually zero military or experimental aircraft flying in NZ where I live but we still see all these chemtrails.
Even at the end of a runway metals from aircraft are only considered trace elements - although elevated levels at such a concentrated space can be measured and are indicative of pollution - eg see this study from Gatwick
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