Ross Marsden
Senior Member.
( I'm so happy that went down well. ) 
Advocating violence against "Chemtrail" planes, pilots, scientists, and debunkers
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pseacraft
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I wanted to answer that truthfully; we had a driver (what we call all of our pilots) who was FCF and Test Qualified, he was one of the old school drivers. He launched out and a few minutes later heard and felt a bang under his seat. He looked at the controls and all was indicating good, the bird felt fine, then something caught his eye in the review mirror (our bird is one of the few that has one) - part of the bird was missing. He (literally, I had to process the audio recording) casually called Ops on the radio and asked "Is it a bad thing if I can see XXXX in my mirror?" There was a pause and I reckon Ops had to pick up their jaws and then replied "Whaaaat?!" to which the driver replied smooth as silk "yeah, I had something happen and I can see XXXX in the mirror, I guess I have to declare an IFE and RTB". What had happened was the locks on one side of a large removable hatch had let go and the change in pressure swung it open and broke the locks on the other side. This movement caused the now free hatch to swing up and bounce off the engine cowling, roll over the top of the aircraft and slam into part of the fuselage removed the leading edge of that (his visual indication) and then slam into the horizontal stabilizer. Needless to say everyone shit a brick when we saw what happened as he executed a perfect landing. He climbed out of the cockpit, looked at the bird and said 'Oh is that what happened?" like it was another day at the office.
How does Maintenance sign off a Pilots gripe?
"R2 Pilot" - we use it frequently, like last night.
Titus Dafoe
New Member
I posted this screenshot from Russ Tanner's Facebook chemclouds group on Wednesday. It seems that Russ was having a witch hunt this morning to find Egor Herrick. They believed him to be a hacker and tried to befriend him so that they could all block him. It was all a bit obsessive and worrying, so i reported the post to Facebook. I take a screen shot where a sensible and rational person calls them out on their idiotic beliefs and they try to form a conspiracy with no evidence to this man. It was sickening to watch. So i acted accordingly.
Russ, I know you come to this page after today's witch hunt but i am not Egor Herrick. I am actually pretending to be one of you with convincing results. I take a random photo of the sky every day and post it. The readers all reveal their disgust to a perfectly normal sky. If money was involved i'm sure i could contact Trading Standards for fraudulent misrepresentation.
Russ, I know you come to this page after today's witch hunt but i am not Egor Herrick. I am actually pretending to be one of you with convincing results. I take a random photo of the sky every day and post it. The readers all reveal their disgust to a perfectly normal sky. If money was involved i'm sure i could contact Trading Standards for fraudulent misrepresentation.
M Bornong
Senior Member.
Another one from our friends at https://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/groups/globalskywatch/?fref=ts
Not only do they want to shoot down the planes, now they want to burn down the crops.
Not only do they want to shoot down the planes, now they want to burn down the crops.
JRBids
Senior Member.
I got a big kick out of that photo, and the fact that 98% of those commenting thought a "[chemtrailer]" was someone who did NOT believe in chemtrails, LOL.
There's a lot of infighting going on these days, today it's the anti vaxers and the [chemtrailers]. The real [chemtrailers] that is.
Strawman
Senior Member.
I'd suggest you better not do that. You will only drive them further down the rabbit hole. They will take what they see on the chemtrails sites and look for it outside, assuming everything posted there is somehow connected to chemtrails, somehow unnatural, somehow evil. Posting regular skies there without any clarifying comments is not helping.
No offence.
Titus Dafoe
New Member
They're pretty shot away even if i wasn't there. Have you checked out the madness going on there recently? I showed people in work, they were laughing yet horrified at the same time. I am commenting when i post there. I comment quite a lot really. As for posting regular skies, you could argue that 100% of their photos are regular sky shots. Lets pretend that i believed in chemtrails and took the matter serious, as i have witnessed a few followers doing. They have called out readers on the photo's only to be called disinfo agents. What's worse, being a disinfo agent or being ignorant and posting a sky shot which is easily explanatory? Although in that group both are one and the same.
EXAMPLE - Take a look at this thread
So me pretending to be one of them is a drop in the ocean in comparison to the BS being posted there. Even if i stopped it's still going on tenfold and the owner of the group lets them do it. It's like he doesn't care. It's just post away and they do. Does he have a PayPal Donate button tucked away anywhere or DVD's for sale?
I actually kind of enjoy it being a part of a kooky family on Facebook where everyone is a hypochondriac. We compare stories about our illness and the chemicals in the sky and where everybody else not in the group are zombies and sheeple because they cannot see the chemicals being sprayed to kill us.
A friend asked yesterday "
Of all the airports and all the airlines and all the aircraft technicians, not one has come forward to say this is true. surely somebody somewhere has seen something?! Do they kill people that quit their jobs as aircraft engineers? Who fills the tanks with said chemicals and why are they so quiet?! I blame facebook"
<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 17px; text-align: left; ">[video=youtube_share;N3Y9Zo3WII8]http://youtu.be/N3Y9Zo3WII8[/video]
Even for a conspiracy theory site they are spinning out of control and it has nothing to do with me. Russ, Check yourself before accusing others of being disinfo agents. You encourage this behaviour and your unwillingness to say stop to 100% of all photographs posted.
Even if i wasn't a member of this site it would make no difference.
I might even post this one later. What do you think?
Another juicy pic of relevant information which is actively encouraged.
David Fraser
Senior Member.
I tend to agree with Strawman on this. I think it is important to be as transparent as possible in your dealings with chemtrailers, and avoid mocking them. The mob mentality often means as a whole they will switch off to debate. Mind you not mocking them.is easier said than done ;-)
JRBids
Senior Member.
They're pretty far gone. They ask Tanner to ban people who don't believe in Sylphs. A recent discussion about vaccinations turned into an argument between vaxers/anti vaxxers/vegetarians/"people who eat corpses" (as someone put it). They themselves have posted photos of cloudless blue skies with the comment that they're the "wrong" shade of blue.
Titus Dafoe
New Member
oh, bollocks.
You're right there, Dave.
From now on i here thereby never to insult or ridicule a [chemtrailer].
even though i have taken this vow, i believe the level of bs coming from that group will seem no different..
Unless.. there is some quality control on there.. (hang on that doesn't make sense).
I'll go find a hobby like flying a kite or hang gliding. Something safe where i won't die from flu like aluminium based poisoning.
Met Watch
Moderator
They're pretty shot away even if i wasn't there. Have you checked out the madness going on there recently? I showed people in work, they were laughing yet horrified at the same time. I am commenting when i post there. I comment quite a lot really. As for posting regular skies, you could argue that 100% of their photos are regular sky shots. Lets pretend that i believed in chemtrails and took the matter serious, as i have witnessed a few followers doing. They have called out readers on the photo's only to be called disinfo agents. What's worse, being a disinfo agent or being ignorant and posting a sky shot which is easily explanatory? Although in that group both are one and the same.
EXAMPLE - Take a look at this thread
So me pretending to be one of them is a drop in the ocean in comparison to the BS being posted there. Even if i stopped it's still going on tenfold and the owner of the group lets them do it. It's like he doesn't care. It's just post away and they do. Does he have a PayPal Donate button tucked away anywhere or DVD's for sale?
I actually kind of enjoy it being a part of a kooky family on Facebook where everyone is a hypochondriac. We compare stories about our illness and the chemicals in the sky and where everybody else not in the group are zombies and sheeple because they cannot see the chemicals being sprayed to kill us.
A friend asked yesterday "Of all the airports and all the airlines and all the aircraft technicians, not one has come forward to say this is true. surely somebody somewhere has seen something?! Do they kill people that quit their jobs as aircraft engineers? Who fills the tanks with said chemicals and why are they so quiet?! I blame facebook"<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 17px; text-align: left; ">[video=youtube_share;N3Y9Zo3WII8]http://youtu.be/N3Y9Zo3WII8[/video]
Even for a conspiracy theory site they are spinning out of control and it has nothing to do with me. Russ, Check yourself before accusing others of being disinfo agents. You encourage this behaviour and your unwillingness to say stop to 100% of all photographs posted.
Even if i wasn't a member of this site it would make no difference.
I might even post this one later. What do you think?
Another juicy pic of relevant information which is actively encouraged.
I'm going to echo something Mick told another fellow on this forum who had a similar plan - if you are going to go through with your plan, there would be consideration banning you just so there is no association between you and our site. Our goals are to debunk, not to mislead and further encourage false conspiracy. I hope you understand our reasoning.
Titus Dafoe
New Member
Message understood loud and clear. I won't comment on the matter anymore as i tend to get carried away a bit.
I wish you all the best in debunking these people. I truly do.
After seeing what you are up against, they are a minority group just like the truthers.
M Bornong
Senior Member.
A comment from this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzc60zl70Gk&feature=youtu.be
Belfrey has already been to this video and currently has the top rated comment,
Belfrey has already been to this video and currently has the top rated comment,
JRBids
Senior Member.
Chemtrails Global Skywatch again.
From the link:
"Thank you for choosing the red pill"
http://www.kairosiea.com/
must be interesting to live in Fantasy Land all the time.
From the link:
"Thank you for choosing the red pill"
http://www.kairosiea.com/
must be interesting to live in Fantasy Land all the time.
Jay Reynolds
Senior Member.
Now one person is threatening self-immolation. This is what they get when they spin the hype up and use "Fear-Based Marketing" techniques on potentially unstable people.
There is a great toll of human suffering being brought on by this hoax. Those responsible for promoting this hoax need to reconsider in the light of G. Edward Griffin's research that shows the planes people see leaving "chemtrails" are ordinary commercial jets. He made the first film but stayed away from the second, hopefully is having second thoughts.
The Facebook comments are rather bizarre, considering someone's life may hang in the balance.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/globalskywatch/permalink/10152830091300302/
There is a great toll of human suffering being brought on by this hoax. Those responsible for promoting this hoax need to reconsider in the light of G. Edward Griffin's research that shows the planes people see leaving "chemtrails" are ordinary commercial jets. He made the first film but stayed away from the second, hopefully is having second thoughts.
The Facebook comments are rather bizarre, considering someone's life may hang in the balance.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/globalskywatch/permalink/10152830091300302/
David Fraser
Senior Member.
Jesus Christ Jay. I have just read the comments. Helpful is not a way to describe them [...]
Leifer
Senior Member.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061513845&postcount=24
Thanks for putting in the work, but what would you have us do? The people who are awake already know about chemtrails, and some of us know the only way to stop this is to kill the people who are doing it. So, who is going to go out and take the first shot? As for everyone else, IMO they just really do not care as long as they can get through the day without walking into a phone pole while they're head-down staring catatonically into the screen of their smartphone.
The politicians aren't going to stop it. The corporations aren't going to stop it. Only 2% of the population even cares, and that's not enough to stop anything in a peaceful manner.
Discussion of chemtrail popularity in the population merged to:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/13...Shows-Party-Age-Race-Splits-on-Chemtrails-etc
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/13...Shows-Party-Age-Race-Splits-on-Chemtrails-etc
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Strawman
Senior Member.
Titus,
I know that Chemtrail promoters keep calling usual contrails nefarious, venomous clouds. That's bad enough. No need to feed their fear and give them even more cloud types to be afraid of. As I said, they tend to uncritically apply the knowledge they gain from these pages to the world outside. Posting what is actually the beauty of clouds there does not help debunking or critical thinking. Sorry if I sounded bossy or something, but hey, I'm German, after all.
I know that Chemtrail promoters keep calling usual contrails nefarious, venomous clouds. That's bad enough. No need to feed their fear and give them even more cloud types to be afraid of. As I said, they tend to uncritically apply the knowledge they gain from these pages to the world outside. Posting what is actually the beauty of clouds there does not help debunking or critical thinking. Sorry if I sounded bossy or something, but hey, I'm German, after all.
Ross Marsden
Senior Member.
The bottom post in that clip by Patric Roddie sure reads odd if he is a bona fide chemtrail/geoengineering proponent.
"[He] finds [these sites] a good source for the [] explanations [people] will copy and paste into forums."
Is this what he does? Or does he mean he recognises these sites as the sources of the copy/paste material?
"[He] finds [these sites] a good source for the [] explanations [people] will copy and paste into forums."
Is this what he does? Or does he mean he recognises these sites as the sources of the copy/paste material?
JRBids
Senior Member.
No I can't ask them anything. I had a discussion with Russ on a friend's page and he blocked me from seeing the group. Obviously that did not work out as he had planned, but no I cannot post there. ANyone who questions the party line is blocked.
More likely what he does is post links to What/Why in the WOrld on You Tube.
cloudspotter
Senior Member.
It's not just pilots that are targets
https://www.facebook.com/WorcesterSkyWatch/posts/582465588441969
https://www.facebook.com/WorcesterSkyWatch/posts/582465588441969
https://www.facebook.com/madisonstar.moon/posts/311584072305667
Some select comments:Madisonstar Moon
Operation Kill the Shill : I am going to post a few DISINFO sites here that really get under my skin. I am doing so to make people aware of these government paid debunking sites. These trolls all know each other and are connected. While we activists research, share, and spread the truth ,,,,,, these lying freaks make up posts about us trying to discredit all of our hard work. They use tactics like name calling to try to intimidate truthers. I have dealt with these online terrorists for a long time now and now I want to expose them for the soulless shills they truly are. If any of you would like to know who you can and cant trust on here make sure none of your "friends" have liked any of their pages. I block ANYONE who I see has "liked" anything these fools have to say. They are covering up chemtrails and ensuring the eugenics chemtrail programs can continue killing us all. I agree with not feeding the trolls, but I also believe in exposing the bad guys ;) I love you guys --- Madison PS I am now posting the links to the disinfo sites here : )
Katsi Duzynski well when one has NO SOUL, or conscience - as the ONES in power so blatantly show per their agenda - hey - they can DO it - for those reasons. They are amoral, unfeeling psychopaths. We KNOW better how to react to their lies - why WE SPREAD the truth. They hate us for our abilities to DEAL WITH them - and cannot get over that fact ... exposing them is like pouring acid on them. They just cannot tolerate that at all ...
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Madisonstar Moon Nice image that put in my head of the shill burning in acid.... thanks for the visual Katsi Duzynski
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Madisonstar Moon Sorry if that sounded mean ... i was only kinda playing.....
Madisonstar Moon I do enjoy the Omega chemtrail crash though a lot.
Katsi Duzynski you are welcome ... Hollywood still does not own any monopoly on special effects unlike one's imagination ...
Madisonstar Moon So true,,, I actually pictured the witch from the wizard of oz..... " I'm melting "
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Kandy Griffin kill the schill....loooove it
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Keith T King Great idea
Madisonstar Moon Operation KTS in full affect ! (evil laughter inserted here)
Kandy Griffin bahahahahahahahah.........KTS....whooo hooooooo!!!!!!!
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Joe Barbera Got to be careful that you are not framed so they can label you a terrorist and have a reason to arrest or kill you. There are a lot of bad terrorists out there and I'm not defending them, others are good peaceful activists framed by the government into being some kind of monster.
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David Fraser
Senior Member.
I post on a number of those pages although Madison blocked me when she asked how to have her soil tested and I told her. I even located a lab. I have received personal threats and I know some of the admins have had real grief. On FB I am Rufus Gwertigan.
That explains why I can't see her FB page.
Just found this one. "Take OUT these guys"?
That's "out" as in "expose for who they are", not "take out" as in "eliminate"
David Fraser
Senior Member.
https://www.facebook.com/carlyhill.hill/posts/654540014561662
We need to look up every one of these idiots, tie them up, stuff dirty disgusting socks up their noses, and stuff nano and toxic vomit down their throats. See how it feels to live in the hell they are putting us through.
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David Fraser
Senior Member.
I always report posts Mick but I do wonder if FB take them seriously. The UK police seem to take it seriously and I have considered forwarding complaints. However I am aware of how any investigation will be viewed by the CT crowd. It may be my life experience but I take all threats as credible. I have mentioned a few times I would not mind attending some "conferences" but I side on the edge of caution.
Facebook says:
https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards
https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards
Safety is Facebook's top priority. We remove content and may escalate to law enforcement when we perceive a genuine risk of physical harm, or a direct threat to public safety. You may not credibly threaten others, or organize acts of real-world violence. Organizations with a record of terrorist or violent criminal activity are not allowed to maintain a presence on our site. We also prohibit promoting, planning or celebrating any of your actions if they have, or could, result in financial harm to others, including theft and vandalism.
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