Spielberg’s “Disclosure Day” discussion [WITH SPOILERS]

[Fritzkquzerk]

So, I've seen the movie Premiere in Turin, Italy, a few hours ago.
It was also introduced by CISU (Centro Italiano Studi Ufologici, they are the most "scientific" UFO association in Italy, they have a big record of sightings, go looking in loco, etc.)
It was interesting.
The film? From my point of view, as a sci-fi lover, it was ok, I would say.
Very spielbergish.

Regarding the UFO lore:
So, the plot revolves around the big conspiracy for secrecy.
A contractor holds the whole truth on aliens, the secret cannot be revealed because it would cause chaos, MiB style.
The videos from the navy, yes, it was covered.
Same imagery (not nust blobs on screen, but trans medium objects).
Some "body control" scenes, well played I think.
As an "aliens movies" lover, I expected a bit more "otherworldly" representation, I don't know.
The whole mood is much lighter than what I expected.
Arrival, for example, is a much better alien movie in my opinion.
It was enjoyable, overall, as an experience.
(I also got to talk UFOs with the people from CISU, it was interesting, they are largely skeptics on the subject, not extraterrestrial conspiracy buffs).


Another user asked me how much of it is a chase.
He said maybe 20%.
Sorry, I think it's more.
It's a BIG chase, actually.

The aliens?
I can spoil it but it's, uhm, I'll tell you when you'll ask me.

Anyway this is the first thread that I open, I like it here, I had interesting discussions with many of you.
I think I'll stick around longer!
Ask me anything!

 

[Jay Y]

What about shots of awestruck folk staring into the distance?

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

What about shots of awestruck folk staring into the distance?

Not much!

 

[NoParty]

Is it true that the aliens craft an impressive "UFO Mothership" out of common kitchen ceiling light fixtures?

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

Is it true that the aliens craft an impressive "UFO Mothership" out of common kitchen ceiling light fixtures?

There's actually less "mothership" stuff than expected, luckily.
It really all revolves around the big alien truth being secret, humanity deserves to know, some people are gatekeepers (actually it's just ONE BAD GUY, with his company, but for the sake of ONE film instead of a series, it makes sense).
There's less "aliens" than I actually thought.
The trailer kinda already spoils the big aliens scenes, and yes, crop circles scenes, but those were visible on the trailer as well.
But the aliens themselves are, well, cliché?

 

[Todd Feinman]

Haven't seen it. Hope you enjoyed it!

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

Haven't seen it. Hope you enjoyed it!

I think it's not out in America yet

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

Haven't seen it. Hope you enjoyed it!

It was ok. 6.5/10 imho.

 

[jumbobob]

Just saw the movie as well, I found it a bit underwhelming. Was also far too long.
The "escape" scenes are extremely cheesy.

I think I read somewhere that the story went through a massive amount of drafts but the story is pretty weak. It honestly seems like they planned the movie backwards: taking the interesting stuff (last 15mins maybe) and then tacking on the sci-fi stuff for the rest of the 2 hours.

Anyway I see Release 3 just dropped, I think that'll be way more entertaining

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

Just saw the movie as well, I found it a bit underwhelming. Was was also far too long.
I "escape" scenes are extremely cheesy.

I think I read somewhere that the story went through a massive amount of drafts but the story is pretty weak. It honestly seems like they planned the movies backwards: taking the interesting stuff (last 15mins maybe) and then tacking on the sci-fi stuff for the rest of the 2 hours.

Anyway I see Release 3 just dropped, I think that'll be way mor entertaining

Not really! I've seen that as well.
We got ORBS this time!

 

[jdog]

Just saw the movie as well, I found it a bit underwhelming. Was also far too long.
The "escape" scenes are extremely cheesy.

I think I read somewhere that the story went through a massive amount of drafts but the story is pretty weak. It honestly seems like they planned the movie backwards: taking the interesting stuff (last 15mins maybe) and then tacking on the sci-fi stuff for the rest of the 2 hours.

Anyway I see Release 3 just dropped, I think that'll be way more entertaining

Man, "underwhelming" was the word that popped into my head at the end of the movie as well.

The first "remote control" scene and some of the chase segments made me think of the chase scenes in the last Indiana Jones movie, in that I found myself wondering when they were going to end.

 

[MapperGuy]

So no aliens put in an appearance? Or only in flashbacks?
How disappointing.
Surely the aliens rescuing the people fleeing from the Men In Black would have made a better story.

 

[jumbobob]

Man, "underwhelming" was the word that popped into my head at the end of the movie as well.

The first "remote control" scene and some of the chase segments made me think of the chase scenes in the last Indiana Jones movie, in that I found myself wondering when they were going to end.

I get the impression this was maybe for an audience in the 15-25 age range (something like that, I don't know).
If you actively follow the DoW releases, Youtube stuff and debunks etc then the movie is not worth the time.

If you're new to the whole NHI, UAP, whistleblower, debunking thing then I think you MIGHT find the movie entertaining.

 

[jdog]

So no aliens put in an appearance? Or only in flashbacks?
How disappointing.
Surely the aliens rescuing the people fleeing from the Men In Black would have made a better story.

I would say it's not a tightly plotted story. Lots of stuff just happens either by coincidence or by the intervention of an off-screen entity so powerful that the characters are mere pawns.

It may be a tell that the first scene in the movie is set at a wrestling match.

 

[Gary C]

NDT interviews Spielberg about his film and the thinking behind it.

Steven Spielberg Believes in Aliens

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rIu22PVFG4

Why does Spielberg have so many alien movies? Spielberg reflects on a career defined by the unknown, from his very first film to Close Encounters, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, and War of the Worlds. He traces his renewed fascination with UFOs to a 2017 New York Times article. Is there enough evidence of aliens out there? If the government were to find aliens, should they tell us? We explore how smartphones have turned the entire population into a crowdsourced surveillance network, and whether the timing of government file releases around the film's debut is really just a coincidence.

Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction: Steve Spielberg
02:43 - The Role of Eyes
04:57 - Disclosing the Aliens
08:38 - Spielberg's Signature
09:53 - Empathy as a Theme
11:00 - Do We Have A Right to Know?
13:13 - Will Aliens be Evil?
15:23 - Does Everyone Want the Government to Disclose Aliens?
19:10 - Introduction: David Koepp
20:37 - The Role of the Screenwriter
22:34 - Balancing Science and Fiction
27:43 - Primal Fears
35:05 - Motivating Villans
34:18 - Aliens Are People Too
37:48 - Are We the Evil Aliens?
39:35 - Doing the Right Thing
41:39 - The Day the Earth Stood Still
44:20 - Would Aliens Bring People Together?
47:22 - Speaking Alien
50:58 - We Want to Know the Truth