Debunking Humor...

Speaks for itself...


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Som'n fishy going on in Sweden. The meme below (spotted on LinkedIn) is obviously a joke satirizing Geoffrey Hinton's recent 'physics' Nobel which is real. Hinton is a computer scientist, not a physicist, and he's a famous AI doomerist (i.e. 'machines will soon take over and outsmart humans') who believes (without evidence) that GPT4 is sentient and can understand meanings. Geoffrey's actual academic achievement is in neural networks decades ago which obviously merits respect and appreciation.

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Som'n fishy going on in Sweden. The meme below (spotted on LinkedIn) is obviously a joke satirizing Geoffrey Hinton's recent 'physics' Nobel which is real. Hinton is a computer scientist, not a physicist, and he's a famous AI doomerist (i.e. 'machines will soon take over and outsmart humans') who believes (without evidence) that GPT4 is sentient and can understand meanings. Geoffrey's actual academic achievement is in neural networks decades ago which obviously merits respect and appreciation.

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Literature would indeed be a more fitting prize, the creative arts are certainly a more fitting place to employ something that doesn't care about just making stuff up all the time. (A friend came to visit a few weeks ago, and every morning and every evening, he got ChatGPT to create a cartoon story for his 7-year old to enjoy, and apparently everyone thought they were brilliant. Children's books author is already a "profession" that can be struck off the list as no longer requiring a human.)

I notice that Sabine Hossenfelder has just had a rant about the Nobel prize too:

Source: https://youtu.be/watch?v=dR1ncz-Lozc

She has a few rather funny barbs, which makes this post on-topic :)

And on the individual you mention, don't forget the naysayer whom I quoted in your "sentience" thread (searching for "Hinton" by me should find it) regarding claims that not everything he did, and was lauded for, was actually original.

A review of the hype surrounding AI was done fairly recently in an Adam Conover (a comedian, and also part-time debunker in his "Adam Ruins Everything" series) vid - I collaborated with Arvind Narayanan when he was still in IIT, he always was a super smart guy, and it's no surprise he seems to have a pretty grounded view on the field of AI nowadays.

Source: https://youtu.be/watch?v=M3U5UVyGTuQ
 
There's a thread Immaculate Constellation - Alleged USAP focused on UAP identification and crash-retrieval.
The US DoD has stated there are no records of any SAP called "Immaculate Constellation", and a few of us here are a bit sceptical if that title would've been chosen for such a program (if it existed at all).

I sought the opinions of folk, now of senior years, who all served the US in various capacities and in ops under a variety of codewords and nicknames. They all met while stationed in New Mexico in the late 1940s. (I've kept their real names secret).

Jim, an engineer who led a team which recovered downed aircraft in 1944-45, was involved in "Discus Finder", which supported the Roswell airbase athletics team.
Hector, a scientist and engineer who helped reverse-engineer V2s, joined "Saucer Define" to help find and catalogue Native American ceramics in the area that might otherwise have been damaged by military activities.
Dorothy, a doctor and pathologist who later married Hector, was key in "Describe Goblin", a program to write stories for the entertainment of service children if their parents were away.

All agreed that no-one involved in secret UFO recovery work would choose a leading name like "Immaculate Constellation".

Another source pointed out that some effort is made to use codewords/ nicknames that are not easily misheard, but some do slip through; they suggested we search for possible SAP titles along the lines of "Inaccurate Speculation", "Impractical Consideration" and "Imodium Constipation".
 

His rather stoic look is much harsher, and his tie has...well...um ...disappeared shall we say. Looks like Ol' Grandad had a spectacular set of bolt-ons. While funny, did you just ask AI to clean up the photo? Or ask it to create a comic version of pappy? It seems so much of AI is in the prompting. A Brave New World for us old farts!
 
His rather stoic look is much harsher, and his tie has...well...um ...disappeared shall we say. Looks like Ol' Grandad had a spectacular set of bolt-ons. While funny, did you just ask AI to clean up the photo? Or ask it to create a comic version of pappy? It seems so much of AI is in the prompting. A Brave New World for us old farts!
First of all, the picture is not my own creation. Secondly, ...
I've watched a large number of mobile app ads, and there was a time not so long ago when they were pushing apps that would create manga characters from photographs. After seeing a great number of these, you kinda get the idea that when AI sees a photo, it simply can't resist turning it into a manga character. So that's what it did with young grandpa.

Thirdly, these apps have a certain way of enhancing these photos....
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... where you can see that instead of enhacing "creativity", the AI has been trained to enhance a certain set of physical features if it finds them lacking in the original, assuming that's what the target audience would want.
... clearly AI photo processing has been invented mainly to turn portraits of people into manga characters with huge knockers.

Not that that's new...
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... clearly AI photo processing has been invented mainly to turn portraits of people into manga characters with huge knockers.
The illustrators of comic books, especially those of the superhero/sci-fi variety, have for many* years produced what they referred to as "headlight" illustrations in order to attract the same demographic.

*many = since at least the 1950s, but that demographic remains pretty much the same, so probably as long as the censors let them get away with it. :)
 
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The illustrators of comic books, especially those of the superhero/sci-fi variety, have for many* years produced what they referred to as "headlight" illustrations in order to attract the same demographic.

*many = since at least the 1950s, but that demographic remains pretty much the same, so probably as long as the censors let them get away with it. :)
Liefeld being famous for it.

I like to recommend eschergirls.com, showcasing those physiques that display both the headlights and the taillights in the same shot, a feat of perspective that would do Maurits C. Escher proud. (They don't stop there.)
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I especially recommend the "redraws" tag, where budding artists redraw the characters in a more realistic fashion—though sometimes the solution is simply to re-interpret the scene slightly differently!
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https://eschergirls.com/tag/redraws

Debunking the drawn female form
 
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I've got mirrors that do that...

I like to think my mirror is lying to me. It keeps showing me a dumpy middle-aged guy with a receding hair line, as opposed to my not quite comic book proportioned early collage aged me. Of course, it's possible the mirror was lying back then, and I've always been a dumpy middle-aged guy with a receding hair line. Either way it sucks!
 
The problem is when you compare that to the drawn or photoshopped pictures and expect yourself and others to look like that.

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Unfortunately, psdisasters.com closed down (the wayback machine still has them), but https://www.reddit.com/r/PhotoshopFails/ exists.

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debunking the drawn photoshopped female form

How do you know the second girl's butt-augmentation surgery was just so impactful it curves all reality around it?
 
I like to think my mirror is lying to me. It keeps showing me a dumpy middle-aged guy with a receding hair line

You've somehow ended up with the mirror of Dorian Gray.
In real life you remain the chiselled, athletic guy you were in your twenties, with perhaps just a hint of grey hair to denote your greater maturity, a sign that leads younger men to defer to you and intelligent women to seek your company.

I guess Dorian bought his mirrors as a pair, I've got the other one.
Just waiting for the effects to kick in...
 
"As for the story itself, it was entitled "The Dancing Fool." Like so many Trout stories, it was about a tragic failure to communicate. Here was the plot: A flying saucer creature named Zog arrived on Earth to explain how wars could be prevented and how cancer could be cured. He brought the information from Margo, a planet where the natives conversed by means of farts and tap dancing. Zog landed at night in Connecticut. He had no sooner touched down than he saw a house on fire. He rushed into the house, farting and tap dancing, warning the people about the terrible danger they were in. The head of the house brained Zog with a golfclub."
Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions
 
"As for the story itself, it was entitled "The Dancing Fool." Like so many Trout stories, it was about a tragic failure to communicate. Here was the plot: A flying saucer creature named Zog arrived on Earth to explain how wars could be prevented and how cancer could be cured. He brought the information from Margo, a planet where the natives conversed by means of farts and tap dancing. Zog landed at night in Connecticut. He had no sooner touched down than he saw a house on fire. He rushed into the house, farting and tap dancing, warning the people about the terrible danger they were in. The head of the house brained Zog with a golfclub."
Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions

For anyone not aware that there's a movie made from that book, all I can say is ... I watched it recently.
 
Gregor Mendel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel):

"Over seven years, meticulously documenting the characteristics of cross-pollinated pea plants, I described the principles of dominant and recessive traits and determined that inheritance occurs via invisible factors that you call 'genes'.
What, dear namesake, have you discovered?"

"Our" Mendel:

"Ah, Gregor, I don't wish to overshadow your achievements, but using selective cross-pollination of cacti- well; come and have a look- I've finally grown one that looks like a big willy and balls sticking out of the ground."

Pareidolia.

Edit: not really limited to faces, either.
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Gregor Mendel (Visibly delighted):

"Ach, Mendel, by combining your knowledge of genetics with the famous German sense of humour you have exceeded my expectations! You must write this up- surely there is a journal devoted to such specimens; failing that a British tabloid newspaper or light entertainment TV show. They are endlessly amused by naughty vegetables over there!"
 
They are endlessly amused by naughty vegetables over there!"
Terry Pratchett wrote a book about a newspaper, "The Truth".
Article:
Mr Wintler (45) was an early bane of the life of William de Worde after the birth of the Ankh-Morpork Times. He had a habit of turning up day after day with one of his "humorous" vegetables. Although these included an obscene carrot, a parsnip with a nose and a potato which was a reincarnation of Mr. Pin, it sparked a less-than-impressive mini-trend.

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'I'm afraid we've had five other people in here with humorous vegetables,' she said.

'Oh.'

'Yes. They weren't all that funny, to tell the truth.'

'Oh.'

'No, they mainly looked like … um, you know.'

'Oh … what?'

'You know,' she said, beginning to go red. 'A man's … um, you know.'

'Oh.'

'Not even very much like, um, you know, too. I mean, you had to want to see a … um, you know … there, if you understand me.'

William hoped that no one was making notes about this conversation.
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Speaking of the last word in wit, long-running British TV current affairs show "That's Life" had a weekly slot for "humorous vegetables" of the Wintler-grown variety... Sunday night after Sunday night there was always a carrot that looked like a willy, or a humorous potato looking like a scrotum, or a pair of conjoined pumpkins that, hey, look, if we sit them in the cups of this bra they look like a pair of boobs, worra laugh! There was no shortage of hideously suggestive vegetable produce to entertain the British nation with. Ye gods, it was funny. Ye gods, we were entertained. It made clowns look like attractive entertainment...

And because of that, the Discworld reddit has a tag for "interesting vegetables": https://www.reddit.com/r/discworld/?f=flair_name:"Interesting Vegetables"



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Terry Pratchett wrote a book about a newspaper, "The Truth".
Inevitable reaction:
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"Unseen University, home of the greatest wizards on the Discworld. And one or two of the worst."
Article:
Mustrum Ridcully (the Brown) is the current Archchancellor of Unseen University. [..] Although brash and loud and seemingly unable to listen, he is nevertheless capable of extreme erudition and insight, and occasionally displays formidable magical prowess.
 
On the tangential subject of Terry Pratchett, he wrote the following in one of the Night Watch books:
"There's no point in believing in things that exist. If they exist, you don't have to believe in them. If they don't exist, believing in them won't make them exist." – Captain Carrot

Could be the unofficial motto/philosophy of many who haunt this hallowed place, methinks!
 
On the tangential subject of Terry Pratchett, he wrote the following in one of the Night Watch books:
"There's no point in believing in things that exist. If they exist, you don't have to believe in them. If they don't exist, believing in them won't make them exist." – Captain Carrot
Counterexample: Believe in Love!

Some things exist, but can't be proven.
 
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