Advocating violence against "Chemtrail" planes, pilots, scientists, and debunkers

As I was leaving the Board of Supervisors meeting Tuesday, someone who looked like a 50 year old redneck hippie said, "You're a piece of [""excrement]. You'd better watch your back." He left. I didn't get his name. It was a pretty vague threat, but it was right to my face.
 
As I was leaving the Board of Supervisors meeting Tuesday, someone who looked like a 50 year old redneck hippie said, "You're a piece of [""excrement]. You'd better watch your back." He left. I didn't get his name. It was a pretty vague threat, but it was right to my face.

I believe you. I had a malicious attack.
 
I believe you. I had a malicious attack.

It's like when the woman started shouting about the officials "lying to us" during the meeting. Some of them really do believe there are sinister forces at work and that Steve and the people on the board are all on the "dark side".
 
I've listened to a bit of it and it sounds like a whole bunch of people ganging up on one guy. and I see lots of gish gallopping to try and drown out anything the Art guy says.
usual old load of already debunked nonsense just thrown out there with no evidence whatsoever. for a debate on chemtrails it seems to go into lots of random territory. they don't let Art even mention one thing in an aside saying "That's not what we are talking about" and yet they throw in Knights Templar Illuminati Lady gaga stuff.

Even the Art guy seems to have some odd ideas too.
He seems to be suggesting that High Bypass turbofans are using JP-7 fuel, that was used in the SR71, and not Jet A1. I can't hear him very well, either he needs to speak up, or whoever is in charge on sound needs to equalize the mics.
 
Mike Adams advocates murder of those he calls 'Monsanto collaborators' - science-based blogs.
Today, a number of once-independent media sites are selling out to corporate interests and quickly becoming Monsanto collaborators. This is readily apparent by noticing which media sites attack Dr. Mercola, the Food Babe, Jeffrey Smith, the Health Ranger or anyone else fighting against the scourge of GMO genocide against humanity. These attacks all have one thing in common: they are orchestrated by paid biotech muckrakers — people I call “Monsanto collaborators.”
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....it is the moral right — and even the obligation — of human beings everywhere to actively plan and carry out the killing of those engaged in heinous crimes against humanity.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/c...nsanto-nazis-disturbing-article/#.U9CufKPY9rT
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And the list is being made...
After this story was first published, someone has indeed launched a website that appears to be inspired by a suggestion from this story. The Monsanto Collaborators website lists the names of journalists and publications that the site says have contributed to the agricultural genocide of GMOs, comparing the 250,000+ suicides caused by GMOs to “genocide” and the Holocaust.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/c...elevates-ugly-anti-gmo-campaign/#.U9FR_6gcP94
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Years ago in Lansing, Michigan, some PETA higher-ups did a presentation in which they gave out lists of all the restaurants that serve meat, the banks that hold their mortgages, and the facilities that house live animals (regardless of whether it's for research, food, or pet sale purpose), and then had a class on how to create a gasoline bomb in a milk carton. They weren't charged because as long as the bomb class follows without context from talking about places they want to see destroyed, they're not actually advocating violence. I'm sure the same argument would apply here...


Anyway, any context on that tree image? I mean, obviously even if the chemtrail theory were true it couldn't do that, but it does look like a fairly specific event.

Edit: Actually, Google image search was better at finding it than I thought, the rest of the image didn't stop it from finding the inset image:
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic...in-the-peruvian-amazon/peruvian-amazon-cut-2/

Slash and burn deforestation to clear way for development.
 
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Years ago in Lansing, Michigan, some PETA higher-ups did a presentation in which they gave out lists of all the restaurants that serve meat, the banks that hold their mortgages, and the facilities that house live animals (regardless of whether it's for research, food, or pet sale purpose), and then had a class on how to create a gasoline bomb in a milk carton. They weren't charged because as long as the bomb class follows without context from talking about places they want to see destroyed, they're not actually advocating violence. I'm sure the same argument would apply here...


Anyway, any context on that tree image? I mean, obviously even if the chemtrail theory were true it couldn't do that, but it does look like a fairly specific event.

Edit: Actually, Google image search was better at finding it than I thought:
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic...in-the-peruvian-amazon/peruvian-amazon-cut-2/

Slash and burn deforestation to clear way for development.
They never seem to care whether they misrepresent images as long as it serves the purpose of promoting the story they want to tell.
 
Mike Adams advocates murder of those he calls 'Monsanto collaborators' - science-based blogs.
Today, a number of once-independent media sites are selling out to corporate interests and quickly becoming Monsanto collaborators. This is readily apparent by noticing which media sites attack Dr. Mercola, the Food Babe, Jeffrey Smith, the Health Ranger or anyone else fighting against the scourge of GMO genocide against humanity. These attacks all have one thing in common: they are orchestrated by paid biotech muckrakers — people I call “Monsanto collaborators.”
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....it is the moral right — and even the obligation — of human beings everywhere to actively plan and carry out the killing of those engaged in heinous crimes against humanity.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/c...nsanto-nazis-disturbing-article/#.U9CufKPY9rT
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Just heard about this today. The plot is thickening and the FBI is apparently involved.

After Adams called for the identification and outing ( and possible murder?) of pro GMO scientists and journalists, a website appeared with just such a list of names... http://monsantocollaborators.org/

Here's a Wayback Machine link.

Despite the monsantocollaborators.org site being anonymized, hosted and registered abroad, there are apparent coding similarities with the Adams' Natural News website. Prompting this twipscience post suggesting that Adams may be behind the both sites.

Here's the very interesting analysis.
 
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If the FBI is involved, chances are the anonymizing service won't matter and whoever's involved is about to get a harsh lesson in interwebing. While they're basically an iron shield against amateur internet sleuths, they'll fold in a hearbeat if somebody like the FBI or Interpol calls them, even if they're in a country that doesn't extradite to the US, because nobody wants the chain of ownership for a site like that to end with them.

The Pirate Bay has several extra layers of obfuscation on top of what monsantocollaborators has, plus was constantly moving around in several independent units (any one of which could keep the site operational alone if need be) and law enforcement has catching the people running it one at a time for awhile. Silk Road had even more, plus all the crazy multi layered encryption that comes with being onion routed through Tor, and it's kind of scary how effectively it was tracked down.

Adams (if it really is him) has his name attached to a public internet presence and only one apparent layer of separation between his neck and this particular millstone, and has committed a crime that's generally taken more seriously than downloading Game of Thrones.
 
Serious question: has anyone actually cornered any of these [...] with an iPhone running FR24 and showed them what these planes are?

IF I had the opportunity, a face-to-face (and not just trying to help them understand via an Internet Forum) then I'd be better able to explain....and HELP them to understand!!!

Also, besides 'FR24' I would ALSO include http://flightaware.com/

"FlightAware" is tailored (I presume) for aviation professionals...but no matter, because I can help anyone, even a non-professional, understand it easily.
 
IF I had the opportunity, a face-to-face (and not just trying to help them understand via an Internet Forum) then I'd be better able to explain....and HELP them to understand!!!

Also, besides 'FR24' I would ALSO include http://flightaware.com/

"FlightAware" is tailored (I presume) for aviation professionals...but no matter, because I can help anyone, even a non-professional, understand it easily.
Does that have an app as well? I like FR24 for its very intuitive "augmented reality" feature that just lets you point your phone at the sky and it tells you what the plane is. Even a chemtrail believer could understand!
 
If the FBI is involved, chances are the anonymizing service won't matter and whoever's involved is about to get a harsh lesson in interwebing. While they're basically an iron shield against amateur internet sleuths, they'll fold in a hearbeat if somebody like the FBI or Interpol calls them, even if they're in a country that doesn't extradite to the US, because nobody wants the chain of ownership for a site like that to end with them.

The Sarah Palin hacker left several traces. But the FBI also just got a court order for the records from the proxy service he used.
http://www.codebelay.com/blog/2008/...have-tracked-palins-hacker-if-he-were-l33ter/
 
I don't know if 'FlightAware' has a smartphone app.

I like 'FA' because it's more technically geared toward pilots, has a lot of good info. Maybe too much, for non-pilots(?)
FR24 has an app - a free one with the basics and a "Pro" version with some more....
 
I'm getting tired if the laser threats. I travel a lot. These people a seeking to harm passenger flights. I know the odds of them affecting a flight that I happen to take is small but I still feel like they are threatening me directly when they advocate blinding pilots.
 
So obviously this is a direct threat of terrorism with someone's name on it. Maybe it's been explained but has anyone here actually started the process of reporting this to "the authorities"? Who did you contact and what was the response or result? Can someone be arrested for the mere threat of doing this or do they have to do it? I just don't know how that type of post can go without punishment..... Even if that person doesn't do it directly, they are inciting similar actions by others.
 
Even if that person doesn't do it directly, they are inciting similar actions by others.

"Inciting"? Not yet a crime. The action IS the crime, though (of course, I am not trained in the law. I could be mistaken here).

Still, hopefully these sorts of posts ARE being looked at by those who are responsible authorities. For future reference.
 
Well that's what I'm wondering... Has anyone here actually contacted the FBI regarding a post like this and if so what was the follow up? Did the post disappear? Did the account get closed?
I think if you post that you plan to do something that would endanger lives it should be treated like you are going to do it and you should be stopped by a period of incarceration.
 
I think it might be useful to forward this info to the FBI or something, just so if a laser attack happens in a certain area, they might be able to run a background check on the person and see if it happened in an area that they live in.
 
I think the distinction here is the person is saying they HAVE the weapon AND WILL use it against a target.
That's like saying that I plan to use a gun to kill R###### O######. I have made a very specific threat. That different than a generalized threat like "I would love to kill a person using a laser pointer."
If I were R###### O###### I would feel specifically threatened and would request that someone do something about it.
 
"Inciting"? Not yet a crime. The action IS the crime, though (of course, I am not trained in the law. I could be mistaken here).

Still, hopefully these sorts of posts ARE being looked at by those who are responsible authorities. For future reference.
I don't know about the US. but it certainly is a crime in the UK and is taken seriously. Some guy tweeted he would blow up a local airport as a joke and was convicted. It took him 2 years to get the conviction overturned http://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/jul/27/twitter-joke-trial-high-court

More severe was a guy in the UK trolled a memorial page on Facebook saying he was going to shoot up a school in the US causing a security panic. He got 2 years in gaol for that one http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...kill-200-us-children-on-facebook-8697838.html

If Mike Adams were in the UK he would have had his door kicked down by now
 
I don't know about the US. but it certainly is a crime in the UK and is taken seriously. Some guy tweeted he would blow up a local airport as a joke and was convicted.

Wow!!!! That is incredibly interesting!

Seems equivalent (perhaps?) to the iconic 'Yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theatre' trope??
 
I tried to find the actual post but I couldn't... Since it's an archived link here is it possible it's gone on the actual Facebook site? Or just buried and I couldn't find it. I would like to submit the post to the Feds. I think it's just like yelling fire in a theater. I don't believe it's free speech if it's a specific threat. Plus the Feds are offering a reward. I want a piece of that.
 
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