2008 UFO Footage From Turkey

People have suggested a cruise ship, which seems to fit:
http://www.alcione.org/FRAUDES/00TURQUIA/

 

are you having deja vu? i think we've had this thread before but i cant figure out the right search terms to use.

 

What is the background to the video? It seems to be lots of unrelated clips from different dates.

This, for instance, looks to be a light from a building or vehicle on top of distant hills.

 

There's some discussion here: http://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/kumburgaz-turkey-ufo-yacht-window-reflections/

It suggests that some of the images could be lights/reflections of boats at the marina to the east of the filming location:

 

Yeah, I've seen the cruise ship thing before, but I can't find it on Metabunk.

Google Image Search seems to be giving very limited results recently.

 

Sorry but this is off topic to the thread. While, the allegedly verified translation says the report is of video taken in 2007, 2008 and 2009..



This is FALSE. the report itself here is dated January 31 2008. So NONE of the OP footage is analyzed in that report. (which is completely inconclusive)






although the report there (based on this iffy translation) says

Which makes sense because in the OP collage (which does not reflect the video) there are multiple pics of the exact same scene but dated a year apart. I call bull.

This is dated, according to your website May 17, 2009. You would need to supply footage of that date if you want to try to claim some sort of debunk. ( I won't bring up fog at this time )

 

I think the fact that it looks exactly like a cruise ship, and there are cruise ships in that general area raises the bar for counter evidence a significant amount.

Like did they account for all the possible variations from refraction? And moon flaring in the camera?

 

You would also need to show that the time on the video camera was set correctly. In the days before times were set automatically using GPS, how many people kept their camera clocks correct?

Moonrise on that day was 1.48 am. If the moon was too high by 3.07am then it must have been in the right place at some time between 1.48 and 3.07, so the camera clock wouldn’t have to be off by a huge amount - less than an hour at a guess.

 

That is not what Trailblazer said. He said if the camera was off by an hour (Daylight Savings Time etc) it would change the position of the moon.

 

Also from looking at all of these videos there seem to have been "UFO sightings" by this same person on multiple dates over a period of two years. It seems highly unlikely that there were repeat visits by UFOs to the same area, where this same hotel security guard could repeatedly video them.

The "object" doesn't really look like a cruise ship to me. It doesn't look like a real object at all, but more like a reflection.



Apparently the footage was filmed using a camera that had a teleconverter on it. I can't help thinking it looks more like the reflection of a camera bezel or something.




Regarding the moon height, in order to have the correct distance of about four and a half degrees between the moon and the horizon, the time would have to be about 50 minutes out. This is 2.18am:



However note that the moon is then above the land, not above the sea.

This is the moon position for the time noted on the video:



That puts the moon almost exactly above the coastline from the filming position. It seems strange that there are no other lights visible along the coast there.

(The filming location is here, at the beach end of the Yeni Kent apartment complex.

 

and where no one else videotaped them, even though there were 'news' segments about them early on. You'd think there would be UFO viewing parties on that beach every night.

it does to me too, but a reflection wouldn't zoom, right?

 

there is one 'light' in the video.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VdrF78_qz4

 

Looking in that direction of the moon there you see Guzecle Marina (mentioned before by @Trailblaser)


It is rather odd there's no other lights. But it is 3AM, maybe they were having power cuts or something?

 

Here's some drone footage of the Marina in the evening.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxmygGmUyHY


This is looking back towards where the camera is.

 

From another page about these videos:

I think I see what he means in the video:



Video here:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlpacP0wnfw


As @deirdre points out, that seems to rule out any kind of camera reflection, as I suggested earlier. The "UFO" moves consistently with the moon as the camera moves and zooms.

 

This video seems to show an identifiable star, Fomalhaut:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baQa0GRAS6M




From Stellarium (NB time zone incorrectly shows Turkey as UTC +2, so I have adjusted the time by one hour)



It then cuts to six minutes later showing a series of "UFO" lights, but nowhere does the video show both, to allow them to be related to each other. Why cut out the intervening footage?

 

why set your camera to use American English date formats, when you don't even know what am or pm is. Even my cheesy little camera I can set European format and/or all numerals.

 

At the start of the moon segment, at 2:02 AM, May 17, 2009, there's a brief glimpse of the moon with two lights.


There's two lights visible, the exposure adjust so you can see a bit more detail.

The moon is also better defined, we can use this to match up with a (four minutes) later shot that shows the UFO and the moon:

(I've offset the images slights so you can see both moon images match)

So those two lights, which are obviously artificial, seem to have been deliberately hidden - probably along with many other lights.

 

That's a very different object, four red lights. Probably on a ship.

 

This type of thing:

 

Yes, there's a bit of tricky editing where a zoom into the star (Fomalhaut?) then cuts to a zoom in on the four lights, which the earlier footage showed was actually close to the horizon, some way below and to the left of the star.

Yellow is the star, red is the cluster of lights:



The cluster of lights is clearly very close to the horizon, consistent with being a ship. It doesn't look anything like the "disc" UFOs in the other clips.

Somewhere fairly close to the coast, around this area.

 

That shows how the lights along the shoreline could easily be hidden by moving the camera, as there is a wall (and tree) blocking much of the view in that direction.

 

Yalcin has made himself a limited public figure. His name is already all over the internet.
AND you are the one who brought up local residents as alleged witnesses, to support your claims.

While there is absolutely no proof that ZW's source is not just making that up, there is also no proof that a lot of what you are quoting is not just people making stuff up.

 

The problem with that it that there's TWO lights visible in the shot, so it can't be looking up at a single light.

 

calling someone a genius isn't an ad hominem. if I blip out 'lunatic' from that quote and put in ' [ ] ' , would that read better for you?

 

I'm thinking the best match for this might be ship masts. There's one bright light on a pole, then what looks like another light underneath it, then possibly two pole to the right without lights, and a third light just below that .

Note we can see the actual shape of the moon (roughly), and the light has a distinct shape also - although that could partly be glare. It's a very similar size to the moon, so that give an angular size (0.5°), from which a rough range of sizes and distances could be calculated.