Theory: Use of "chemtrails" to destroy the human immune system

Truthseeker007

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The use of chemtrails is for the designed purpose of destroying the immune system of the individuals whom the chemtrails descend upon. This is part of the design of the Powers That Be to create an inferior human being who will be very susceptible to the disease and illness that are meant to be released in the future.
 

Mick West

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The use of chemtrails is for the designed purpose of destroying the immune system of the individuals whom the chemtrails descend upon. This is part of the design of the Powers That Be to create an inferior human being who will be very susceptible to the disease and illness that are meant to be released in the future.

Perhaps you could start with your evidence that "chemtrails" are not just persistent contrails?
 

Truthseeker007

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Perhaps you could start with your evidence that "chemtrails" are not just persistent contrails?
Those long, white streams of persistent, cloudy haze commonly blasted into blue skies by unmarked airplanes are not your typical contrails, says Swedish Green Party leader Pernilla Hagberg. As reported by the Swedish paper Katrineholms Kuriren, Hagberg, the first major political leader to come forward on the issue, has openly admitted that these unusual cloud trails, which fail to dissipate like normal contrails do, are actually a toxic mix of chemicals, viruses, and metals that she has collectively referred to as "chemtrails."

According to Hagberg, the sprayings are a joint endeavor by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), as well as the Swedish government in her own country, to modify atmospheric conditions via deliberate aerosol spraying efforts. And included in this "dangerous" mix of aerosols are various chemical components, viruses and viral fragments, and metals such as aluminum and barium, which have already been shown to be accumulating in water supplies and soils around the world
http://www.naturalnews.com/037451_chemtrails_conspiracy_theory_geoengineering.html
 

Mick West

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Those long, white streams of persistent, cloudy haze commonly blasted into blue skies by unmarked airplanes are not your typical contrails, says Swedish Green Party leader Pernilla Hagberg. As reported by the Swedish paper Katrineholms Kuriren, Hagberg, the first major political leader to come forward on the issue, has openly admitted that these unusual cloud trails, which fail to dissipate like normal contrails do, are actually a toxic mix of chemicals, viruses, and metals that she has collectively referred to as "chemtrails."

According to Hagberg, the sprayings are a joint endeavor by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), as well as the Swedish government in her own country, to modify atmospheric conditions via deliberate aerosol spraying efforts. And included in this "dangerous" mix of aerosols are various chemical components, viruses and viral fragments, and metals such as aluminum and barium, which have already been shown to be accumulating in water supplies and soils around the world
http://www.naturalnews.com/037451_chemtrails_conspiracy_theory_geoengineering.html

No, I mean what's the actual evidence that they are not? WHY are they not normal persistent contrails, as have been observed for 60+ years?
 

Truthseeker007

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Watertown NY Daily Times – Aerial spraying has harmful health effects Chemtrails are not the same as condensation trails created by airplane exhaust. Contrails disappear within minutes, while chemtrails linger for hours. A.C. Griffith is credited with revealing atmospheric spraying a decade ago. He stated that these trails contained highly toxic barium salts. A highly decorated U.S. Air Force officer confirmed in 2009 that aluminum, barium and strontium were supplied to her base by an unapproved contractor. Personnel were sickened, when exposed to these materials, and the officer left the Air Force in protest and disgust.
This is a worldwide phenomenon. A Canadian skydiver reported to the Royal canaidan Mounted Police that he went through a chemtrail at 11,000 feet, experiencing nausea and burning in his eyes and lungs and disorientation the whole day. The RCMP refused to investigate. The Environmental Protection Agency did the same when contacted by a California group with fallout samples. An Italian passenger on a transatlantic flight reported spraying over the ocean.
Chemtrails are part of geoengineering, aka weather modification. Per geoengineeringwatch.org, the size of the toxic particles is about 10 nanometers (1 nanometer=1 billionth of a meter). They promote fungus formation, which is responsible for an estimated 70 percent of species disappearance, e.g., trees and bees. They have been linked to the disfiguring Morgellons disease. Human immune systems cannot fight the particles, but hair analysis can identify them. Detoxification is a never-ending process.http://aircrap.org/watertown-ny-daily-times-aerial-spraying-harmful-health-effects/337379/
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
The use of chemtrails is for the designed purpose of destroying the immune system of the individuals whom the chemtrails descend upon. This is part of the design of the Powers That Be to create an inferior human being who will be very susceptible to the disease and illness that are meant to be released in the future.

Oh, yes! I think this is worth starting a new thread. "Purpose of Chemtrails is to destroy the [human] immune system"
 

MikeC

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Those long, white streams of persistent, cloudy haze commonly blasted into blue skies by unmarked airplanes are not your typical contrails, says Swedish Green Party leader Pernilla Hagberg. As reported by the Swedish paper Katrineholms Kuriren, Hagberg, the first major political leader to come forward on the issue, has openly admitted that these unusual cloud trails, which fail to dissipate like normal contrails do, are actually a toxic mix of chemicals, viruses, and metals that she has collectively referred to as "chemtrails."

According to Hagberg, the sprayings are a joint endeavor by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), as well as the Swedish government in her own country, to modify atmospheric conditions via deliberate aerosol spraying efforts. And included in this "dangerous" mix of aerosols are various chemical components, viruses and viral fragments, and metals such as aluminum and barium, which have already been shown to be accumulating in water supplies and soils around the world
http://www.naturalnews.com/037451_chemtrails_conspiracy_theory_geoengineering.html

Yes - she repeats all eth same rubbish that has been manufactured elsewhere.

There is no particular limit to who can fall for this hoax - you can read a lot about her comments in this thread.
 
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JRBids

Senior Member.
The use of chemtrails is for the designed purpose of destroying the immune system of the individuals whom the chemtrails descend upon. This is part of the design of the Powers That Be to create an inferior human being who will be very susceptible to the disease and illness that are meant to be released in the future.

YOu are way behind the times. Didn't you get the memo that it's now "geoengineering"?
 

David Fraser

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Those long, white streams of persistent, cloudy haze commonly blasted into blue skies by unmarked airplanes are not your typical contrails, says Swedish Green Party leader Pernilla Hagberg. As reported by the Swedish paper Katrineholms Kuriren, Hagberg, the first major political leader to come forward on the issue, has openly admitted that these unusual cloud trails, which fail to dissipate like normal contrails do, are actually a toxic mix of chemicals, viruses, and metals that she has collectively referred to as "chemtrails."

According to Hagberg, the sprayings are a joint endeavor by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), as well as the Swedish government in her own country, to modify atmospheric conditions via deliberate aerosol spraying efforts. And included in this "dangerous" mix of aerosols are various chemical components, viruses and viral fragments, and metals such as aluminum and barium, which have already been shown to be accumulating in water supplies and soils around the world
http://www.naturalnews.com/037451_chemtrails_conspiracy_theory_geoengineering .html


Oh dear. Pernilla Hagberg is not a major politician, she is a councillor in a very small town and has not addressed Parliament. There is a thread on here but here is a video made by a chemtrail activist about her. The lady does drone on a little bit but read the comments and listen. Straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

 

cloudspotter

Senior Member.
A highly decorated U.S. Air Force officer confirmed in 2009 that aluminum, barium and strontium were supplied to her base by an unapproved contractor. Personnel were sickened, when exposed to these materials, and the officer left the Air Force in protest and disgust.

I guess you're talking about Kristen, she doesn't have any information on chemtrails

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/1066-Kristen-Meghan-former-US-Air-Force-whistle-blower

i came across a post on Facebook the other day which actually claimed she was the head of the airforce EPA! The post was quickly removed though.:D
 
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scombrid

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Chemtrails are part of geoengineering, aka weather modification. Per geoengineeringwatch.org, the size of the toxic particles is about 10 nanometers

In your first post you said:

The use of chemtrails is for the designed purpose of destroying the immune system of the individuals whom the chemtrails descend upon


So on one hand you are telling us that the health and environmental impacts are a by-product of geoengineering. On another hand you are telling us that the spraying has the designed purpose of destroying immune systems.

Those long, white streams of persistent, cloudy haze commonly blasted into blue skies by unmarked airplanes are not your typical contrails,.....

Some of the chemtrail clergy are changing their tune on that one.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/1547-G-Edward-Griffin-Don-t-Blame-the-Pilots!



[Q] A highly decorated U.S. Air Force officer confirmed in 2009 that aluminum, barium and strontium were supplied to her base by an unapproved contractor. Personnel were sickened, when exposed to these materials, and the officer left the Air Force in protest and disgust.[/Q]

She was a technician and doesn't have any information on chemtrails.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/1066-Kristen-Meghan-former-US-Air-Force-whistle-blower
 
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George B

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It is amazing how people get elevated to inflated levels of authority, knowledge and prestige when they become the Poster Child for a Conspiracy Theory . . . this almost seems to be a rule . . . strange human behavior . . . but consistent . . . ;)


This happened to Ted Gunderson when he promoted several Conspiracies include Chemtrails . . . He became the Director of the FBI . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson
 

Ross Marsden

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A highly decorated U.S. Air Force officer confirmed in 2009 that aluminum, barium and strontium were supplied to her base by an unapproved contractor. Personnel were sickened, when exposed to these materials, and the officer left the Air Force in protest and disgust.

She was a technician and doesn't have any information on chemtrails.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/1066-Kristen-Meghan-former-US-Air-Force-whistle-blower

I don't think that [highly decorated U.S. Air Force officer confirmed in 2009] is a reference to Kristen Meghan.
In the post https://www.metabunk.org/posts/24764
she says, "I left the military at the end of 2010 and left the VHA at the end of 2012."
Her "exposay" was earlier this year, not in 2009.
 
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Mick West

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I don't think that [highly decorated U.S. Air Force officer confirmed in 2009] is a reference to Kristen Meghan.
In the post https://www.metabunk.org/posts/24764
she says, "I left the military at the end of 2010 and left the VHA at the end of 2012."
Her "exposay" was earlier this year, not in 2009.

I think it is her, and 2009 just refers to the year when she "discovered" chemicals on her base.
 
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Mick West

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Dr. Perlinigieri exposes many aspects of the Chemtrails including nanoparticles as well as aerosol chemtrails loaded with toxins and poisons, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdEF92oSNA

Okay, now why don't you just stop posting random videos, and say in your own words ONE piece of actual physical evidence that supports your theory. It can be a test, a measurement, whatever.

But if you don't stop to actually discuss the things you post, then it's just spam, and you'll get banned.

You have three posts to actually enter into a discussion before getting banned.
 

Truthseeker007

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Ok, I go outside sit in a chair get my binoculars. The sky is totally clear and I can breath normal. All of a sudden one plane goes back and forth in my town. It looks to be a C-130. Now they're is a crisscross pattern of white streaks in the air. The streaks start to get bigger and bigger and spread out across the sky. I can smell the chemicals in the air and start wheezing. Now no more clear sky and nothing but chemicals in the Air. I have observed this many times. If I drive 9 hours to my parents house these planes are doing the same thing there. If I drive to my wife's mothers house which is an hour away these planes are doing the same there. How can you people honestly look up to the sky and not seeing this happen. I just don't get it. I guess if they do it right out in the open most people can't see it.
 

Truthseeker007

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http://okanaganchemtrails.blog.ca/2009/04/20/symptoms-resulting-from-chemtrai-spraying-5978978/
 

Truthseeker007

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What a poster said from the site posted in my last post.thedreamtellerlivecom (Visitor) http://dreamtemperature.facebook.com
 
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HappyMonday

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Truthseeker, can you deal with ONE thing at a time?

Most of the posters here don't believe in your theory, and have seen your claims many times before. They don't draw the same conclusions when they see aircraft in the sky.

Telling people to look up, or read external websites is not providing evidence.

Everything about illness etc stems from the fact that you believe that something is being sprayed in the sky by aircraft. Please show me the best piece of evidence you can that aircraft are indeed doing this.
 

Pete Tar

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How long do you estimate it takes the particles to reach you after you see the lines from the aircraft? How long until you experience your symptoms?
 

Mick West

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The problem with long list of symptoms is that they are generally shared by many other conditions.

Let's start with the fundamentals. You claim something is being sprayed. How do you know this? Why are there no close up photos of planes spraying?
 

JFDee

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How can you people honestly look up to the sky and not seeing this happen. I just don't get it.
I see the same sky, criss-crossing trails, and can feel none of the symptoms you describe. Nor do the other people I meet.

What about your neighbors? Are they all affected as well, with no exception? That would be a reason to look more closely.

Isolated personal perceptions are not good evidence. There must be something that gave you the idea that the trails are toxic.
Web sites and Youtube videos? If so, what was the single most convincing bit?
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
Ok, I go outside sit in a chair get my binoculars. The sky is totally clear and I can breath normal. All of a sudden one plane goes back and forth in my town. It looks to be a C-130. Now they're is a crisscross pattern of white streaks in the air. The streaks start to get bigger and bigger and spread out across the sky. I can smell the chemicals in the air and start wheezing. Now no more clear sky and nothing but chemicals in the Air. I have observed this many times. If I drive 9 hours to my parents house these planes are doing the same thing there. If I drive to my wife's mothers house which is an hour away these planes are doing the same there. How can you people honestly look up to the sky and not seeing this happen. I just don't get it. I guess if they do it right out in the open most people can't see it.

Frankly, I don't know how you can smell chemicals that are supposedly being sprayed 10s of thousands of feet above you. This alone tells me that you are imagining things. It is beyond my comprehension how people can look up in the sky and think anything other than condensation trails are there.

I live near a coast guard base and there is ALWAYS a C130 slowly flying in circles over our homes. It flies low and I never see vapor trails. It has propellers, by the way.
 

Cairenn

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I live in Dallas, and I am under a flight approach to Love Field, and in the circling area for DFW and less than 5 miles from a local airport that handles private jets.

I have some of the problems on your list, but I am not going to blame my GERD on 'chemtrails'. I instead blame it on what DOES cause it, too many COKES and too many fatty foods. When I was under 12, back in the 50s and early 60s, I would get acid reflux from eating too many french fries, when my mom used either bacon grease or a meat based shortening. Not many jets back then.

Your claim of 'smelling them' can be disproved by biology. Man's sense of smell is not real good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odor_detection_threshold

Instead of being able to smell one drop in an Olympic swimming pool, you would need to be able to smell one drop in thousands of those swimming pools. It would be like saying that you could spray a skunk spray that was 6 to 10 miles away.
 

MikeC

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Ok, I go outside sit in a chair get my binoculars. The sky is totally clear and I can breath normal. All of a sudden one plane goes back and forth in my town. It looks to be a C-130. Now they're is a crisscross pattern of white streaks in the air. The streaks start to get bigger and bigger and spread out across the sky. I can smell the chemicals in the air and start wheezing. Now no more clear sky and nothing but chemicals in the Air. I have observed this many times. If I drive 9 hours to my parents house these planes are doing the same thing there. If I drive to my wife's mothers house which is an hour away these planes are doing the same there. How can you people honestly look up to the sky and not seeing this happen. I just don't get it. I guess if they do it right out in the open most people can't see it.

People do see it happen, all the time - planes leaving trails - common as.

If you had a C-130 leaving a trail at a low altitude it sounds like insect control - there is a USAF reserve unit that has as 1 of its missions insect control for the Feds - it uses 4 C-130's for this mission.
 

Jay Reynolds

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I see the same sky, criss-crossing trails, and can feel none of the symptoms you describe. Nor do the other people I meet.

What about your neighbors? Are they all affected as well, with no exception? That would be a reason to look more closely.

I live in Arkansas just like the poster. I have been seeing the same persistent contrails he calls chemtrails, but have no symptoms like that at all, neither do my neighbors. If you get a specific date from these people, you will usually find that on the same date there was a marathon, football or basketball game being played, and everyone was fine.
 
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