Sources of EMF Readings at Skinwalker Ranch

Mick West

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Skinwalker Ranch is popular both in the UFO and the Paranormal communities as a place where supposed strange things happen - things that might be attributed to ghosts, aliens, tran-dimensional beings, or just something in the geology.

None of this is backed up by hard science, but one thing that is rolled out with some frequency is the presence of supposedly anomalous readings of EMF radiation. This comes up often in the History Channel's show The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch where they use a Trifield brand RF meter to show a variety of random readings.


About 25 minutes into Episode 1, Travis Taylor says:
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The highest reading I saw was 18.919 mW/m2. Current WHO exposure limits are 9,000 mW/m2.

So, where might this radiation be coming from? There's a number of possible sources to consider
  1. Their own cell-phones
  2. Wireless microphones (they are all wired for sound with lavalier microphones )
  3. Walkie-talkies
  4. Nearby radio stations
  5. Nearby airports (and airplanes)
  6. Nearby cell-phone towers
For 1 & 2, here's a shot of Travis with a cell phone and a wireless microphone transmitter (note the wires and antenna poking out)
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The closest radio station is KNEU, 4 miles away. broadcasting at 1250kHz, kw. 88 meter antenna. https://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngin...bSearchType=Appl&sAppIDNumber=310936&sHours=D
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There are a few airports. The closest is Roosevelt, 8.5 miles away, and a larger one at Vernal, but that's 23 miles away. (airports will be important for other things too, like lights in the sky)

The closest cell-phone towers I could find were two about 3 miles away to the north on Rt 40/Hwy 191
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There does not seem to be a direct line of sight to these antennae from the location on the mesa where they were doing their readings, which has a viewshed mostly to the south.
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Any other suggestions?
 
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Mendel

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https://www.prosoundweb.com/understanding-wireless-rf-output-power/

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http://www.mobileworld.org/gsm_about_06.html
I would expect the phone to use a high output power level especially when the reception is bad; if you compared it to what it uses normally, it could be a lot more. The cellphone would send particularly strongly if there are no cell towers nearby, and if it had an internet connection, might be active without the user being aware.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_band_radio#Current_use
Though you'd hope they'd notice if one of the crew is using their walkie-talkie while they're taking measurements.

I don't think any external transmitters matter, the distance should attenuate the signal a lot. As you know, these transmitters are already at safe levels when you are nearby, and then diminish with the square of distance.
 

Mick West

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https://www.prosoundweb.com/understanding-wireless-rf-output-power/

So what would this actually result in? I'd imagine it's more complicated, but let's say that's the maximum 250 mW at the antenna, then at a distance that has a surface area of 1 square meter, would that measure 250 mW/m2?

Sphere area formula = 4πr^2
Radius for and area of 1m2 = sqrt(1/(4π)) = 0.28m

At one meter away, about 3 feet, the surface area is 4πr^2, or about 12.5.

The maximum power of a lav mic transmitter is 250mW, so at 1 meter that would be 20mW/m2, which is the maximum reading on the meter.

However it seems like 50mW is the most you can do without a license. A simple surface area reduction to 20mW would happen at sqrt(20/50/4/π) = 0.18m (0.6 feet)
 

Mick West

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I don't think any external transmitters matter, the distance should attenuate the signal a lot. As you know, these transmitters are already at safe levels when you are nearby, and then diminish with the square of the distance.
For a ballpark, let's take KNEU, 4 miles away 5kW nondirection. A 4 mile radius sphere has a surface area of 4*π*4828^2 square meters

So power in mw = 5000000/(4*π*4828^2) = 0.017mW/m2

So yeah, that does not seem like something that would be a factor here.
 

Mendel

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Radar Altimeter
On a commercial aircraft, the radar altimeter sends predominantly straight down.
https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/compendium/4200.00-4400.00_01MAR14.pdf
The gain of 10 dBi is a property of the the antenna systems and means the radiated power in the main direction (down) is 10dB more (times 10) than the power for a theoretical isotropic antenna (generating a uniform spherical field), like the one you assumed in your computation above.
However, due to planes being fast and helicopters being loud, such an influence should be either transient or very noticeable.

For the wireless microphone transmitter, antenna gain plays a role as well, as does the fact that the body shields the back pocket from the radiation meter. Reflections could cause changes as they move around. Is the Trifield operator the only person wired for sound? Do they use a drone?
I did try to find the actual power of these systems, but the spec sheets I saw didn't have that information.
 

Mick West

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For the wireless microphone transmitter, antenna gain plays a role as well, as does the fact that the body shields the back pocket from the radiation meter. Reflections could cause changes as they move around. Is the Trifield operator the only person wired for sound?
I did try to find the actual power of these systems, but the spec sheets I saw didn't have that information.
They seem to commonly be in power setting of 50, 100, and 250mw, and the more professional models are switchable between the levels. Example:
https://www.performanceaudio.com/le...ck-transmitter-block-470-470-1-495-6-mhz.html
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Note the antenna here seems somewhat similar to Taylor's.
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Mick West

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While it's unlikely to be an issue, I think it's worth pointing out the long-distance power-lines that run just under a mile to the north in an east-west direction. You can see them in this drone shot
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They make some EMF, but probably not a mile away?
 

Mendel

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ADS-B
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijno/2011/973656/
Because the antenna is mounted vertically, the radiation is directed mostly sideways and not straight down.

I looked for airports nearby; the closest is a Navajo airstrip that I couldn't actually recognize on Google Earth; all other airports are more than 10 miles away. That should rule out aircraft being nearby routinely.wrong state
 
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Mendel

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https://ec.europa.eu/health/scienti...romagnetic-fields07/l-2/7-power-lines-elf.htm
The issue with these is that the wavelength is on the order of 3000 miles -- a handheld device or the human body is a very ineffective antenna for this kind of radiation (as is the powerline).
 

Mick West

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The meter shows 1385.080 - but perhaps that's just editing (audio and video are often different with close-ups)

https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/compendium/1240.00-1300.00_01MAR14.pdf
So possibly a blip from being swept by ATC radar.
 

Mick West

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In Episode 3 they are seen with what looks like a wireless weather station. Metabunk 2020-04-15 08-35-48.jpg

The weather station itself is an Ambient Weather WS-2902A Osprey, which uses a 915Mhz connection to the base station. 300 foot range.
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Then there's a white dome next to this with an antenna. I don't know what this is. Maybe a WiFi extender.


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Later they take so readings of mysterious RF, quite close to this transmitter. This might account for some of their readings
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Leifer

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Camera operators working in difficult areas like this, would likely be equipped with an additional 1 or 2 transmitting signals.

One would be an separate audio intercom directly to the director and producers sitting at a nearby "base camp", wearing headsets..
Another transmission would be a wireless video signal from the camera(s) to the base camp video monitors.... so the recorded footage can be viewed "live" ...and where extremely long cables are not practical.

Systems like this.....
https://www.filmtools.com/cameradep...mo-600-wireless-hdmi-sdi-system-l-series.html
 
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Mick West

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Another possible source is the Wifi cameras and access point set up on the cattle pen used to lure trans-dimensional werewolves.
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Mick West

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I bought a TriField TF2, and after some short experimenting, I think the most likely source of the RF is something very local to them as I suggested in the first post.

At my house, anywhere more than ten feet away from a WiFi hotspot gives a reading of less than 0.100, and outdoors this rapidly drops down to 0.002 or lower. My phone was in full airplane mode for the photos.

The highest reading at a spot away from the house I could find (without going for a drive) was 3 miles away from a cellphone tower. 0.030 mW/m2Metabunk 2020-04-25 16-07-02.jpg

My smart meter had momentary peaks above 20, but basically broadcast at 0.5 (1 foot away) for a second every minute.
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Highest readings were from my 4G-LTE hotspot antennas. 16 at about 2 feet
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I was also above to get reading around 10 with my iPhone on a skype video call, at about 2 feet.

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So I'd go with wireless microphones as the #1 possible source here.
 

Mendel

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So I'd go with wireless microphones as the #1 possible source here.
I'm curious how much your phone gives off if you use it in an area with poor reception, when it adapts the signal strength to compensate. Maybe something to try when not sheltering-in-place.
 

Mick West

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I'm curious how much your phone gives off if you use it in an area with poor reception, when it adapts the signal strength to compensate. Maybe something to try when not sheltering-in-place.
I tried experimenting with inside vs. outside - where outside normally give significantly better reception. I put my phone and the meter in a box to maintain constant spacing, with my phone on a Skype video call.
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Indoors it seems very high at 14.5+. I took it outside and it dropped to 1.3
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But then I came back inside, and it was just as low!

So it seems there are multiple factors at play.
 

jonconnellnyc

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Just an engineering thought or two from left-field. I read they have had an intruder problem there. I wondered is it possible that someone previously installed a microwave motion detector system there in the past? Kind of thing you could bury and run on a solar panel - which can be hidden. The commercial parts run on 5GHz / 1mW. If they were networked and concealed it would be easy to unknowingly walk into a grid and get a high radiation level also various nodes would pop up as it mesh networks its way back to some central receiver node. If this site ever had military security on it there is military tech that mesh networks exactly like that - ditto stealth microphones and vibration detectors. The folks who try to walk through the outer perimeter of military bases usually get caught by them. Further to all of that there is military security and detection tech known as 'mote networks' that is basically smart dust. Imagine a cluster bomb spitting out sensors over a few acres from 30,000 feet. The battery-less sensors mesh network to each other when triggered until they eventually jump to a larger TX/RX node and get a message out. There are audio, vibration and wavelength detectors so I hear. This is not particularly secret - the solid state battery company that powered the DARPA project is now a corporation selling the developed battery-like technology into ultra low power sensors. The systems rely on ultra slow communication and jumps of a few feet - therefore needing tiny amounts of power. I don't know the center frequency but if you could see the radio waves as you walked through smart dust your footsteps would create something like ripples on water as the trigger rippled from nearby receiver to receiver - this might indeed give a detected signal that changed direction erratically. Also on the subject of microwaves, these sensors can energy harvest - heat light and vibration. Microwaves are a ready way to supply power to energy harvesting systems. It might even be then that some system is charging its phone - like a massive wireless phone charger. I have a system in my home here that will charge a small battery from my Wifi signal (or my neighbor's) - if you wait long enough. If I was a military observer on a team charged with monitoring this space for strange events then all the tech mentioned above is things that I would probably spend my budget on. I am not military and none of the above is secret to the best of my knowledge. I am an engineer and all info I glean is by talking to corporations at electronics tradeshows. All real and all at least 15 years out of date I hasten to add. JC
 

vstuart

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Re: anomalous EM readings and phenomena at Skinwalker Ranch and area, it is perhaps interesting that the recent television show "Mystery At Blind Frog Ranch" - located in the same area - reports similar anomalies. A recent episode of of that show, indicated unusual ground-penetrating radar results at the site. Furthermore, the owner was able to smelt metallic objects from the topsoil.

XRF gun readings of that soil found a reading of "804,000" [units?], which was represented as being very highly elevated.

Mystery At 'Blind Frog Ranch’ ... Huge Rare Iridium Discovery
 
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