Lath and plaster is a building process used to finish mainly interior dividing walls and ceilings. It consists of narrow strips of wood (laths) which are nailed horizontally across the wall studs or ceiling joists and then coated in plaster.
Very old electrical wiring. Remains of these circa 1920 wires also hang from the rafters.
The building needs a new front, new windows, and complete new roof if it is to be a serviceable building for any serious purpose at all, although it's possible the side walls are in slightly better shape than the fish-eye lens makes them appear. It seems unlikely that awkwardly positioned cables would do a lot of structural good. Now, if it had been shored up by a rank amateur only for the purpose of having a place to look for supernatural "entities", I'd buy that, except that the cables don't even look taut... and cables to pull in a sagging wall wouldn't work well if attached to a board attached to the INSIDE of the wall, would they? I'd think they would just pull that new board away from the wall if any tension had been applied.If I really wanted to save that building I'd hire a pro. Maybe build a retro fit shear wall, on the outside of that sagging wall, Then repair the wall. They haven't even done anything about the forge chimney leaning against the wall.
yea they probably just stuck it in the lath hole. you dont really have to attach it, just balance it in thereColm Kelleher stands inside a building on Skinwalker Ranch in this undated photo. (Courtesy of George Knapp)
Not where/when I was growing up. But maybe them westerners isn't as skilled as us'ns.You usually had a pro do the butchering though.
Shiny new bulldozer would be a favorite!The building needs a new front, new windows, and complete new roof
Do they have a reverse angle? If one side of the barn's interesting, why isn't the other side?They have constant surveillance of several locations, hoping to see something anomalous. This was one of the best things they found over the years they have been doing it.
An Australian documentary about such creatures: Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zdmqV2iDN8what's more convenient, according to the above podcast reporting, Bigelow decided that nothing was actually visible ever and that the entity just made the witnesses see what they saw but in a hallucination type way. so..the cameras never got anything because it was never visible in the first place
The camera's below the rafters, and the rafters are below the window, so I think it's more central against the back wall, maybe a metre or so below the window.i wonder if the camera is outside the window?
Thanks for the info!Part 4 was just released a few days ago. It's good but it still hasn't gotten to his night on the ranch
(I understand that my commentary and the video are both off the narrowly focused topic of the thread.)Thanks for the info!
Here is the link:
Maybe we should start a thread just for discussing new episodes of the basement office. I think it's quite entertaining while clearly showing how ridiculous the whole thing is. I really can't tell if these people are scammers or true believers or not.(I understand that my commentary and the video are both off the narrowly focused topic of the thread.)
OK, I suffered through this steaming pile of anecdotes (at a faster speed, so as not to prolong the misery), and I'm torn between (1) wondering how much of this is people interpreting some very thin number of strange events through a deeply religious lens, and (2) the more sinister question of the extent of pure cynical fakery on their part. It's within the power of anyone to claim weird misgivings and sudden weak spells, but add to that their pride in having a large amount of money invested in high-tech gadgetry, which could also give them the means by which to provide such things as ghostly voices on command.
How is one to take seriously a group of people that pooh-pooh their predecessor's claim of bulletproof werewolves, yet talk with apparent sincerity of spiritual journeys and wormholes and portals and multiple worlds and mysterious triangles?
Anecdotally, I've noticed there is a strong crossover between the UFO community and traditional/evangelical Christian communities.deeply religious lens
They rested Board C on the floor jack. They jacked up Board C until it lifted Board A high enough so they could jam Board B between the floor and Board A. They wanted to jam Board C between the base of Board B and the wall to give it some stability. But it didn't work because Board C was too short.
So they put the floor jack between Board B and Board C. But that didn't work because Board C was bending, so they put a rock under Board C. This got it to straighten out just enough. After some time they somehow got it to work.
Anecdotally, I've noticed there is a strong crossover between the UFO community and traditional/evangelical Christian communities.
I think they're paranoid. They can't bring random people to the place because they don't want people seeing the place and talking about it. Or spreading gossip about the people in The Group.
Who knows. My guess is that they were stacking them up and then putting board C on them at an angle and then trying to beat board C straight up and down, thereby lifting the sagging roof. When that didn't work, they brought in the floor jack and didn't bother to clean up the bricks.What were they going to do with the bricks?
Bingo! You might possibly be incorrect in assuming that they actually DO inspect construction in the back of beyond, but that occurred to me too, that any building inspector would recommend the bulldozer solution rather than any type of amateur fix-it on that wreck. Granted, I've seen some rather ramshackle barns on farms, but never as bad as that one.Or, Godferbid, file plans with the county and have an Inspector pay visits.
They can't cry poverty. I think they're paranoid. They can't bring random people to the place because they don't want people seeing the place and talking about it. Or spreading gossip about the people in The Group. Or, Godferbid, file plans with the county and have an Inspector pay visits.
Whoever owns Stonehenge needs to fix that up too, it's in a right state.
Article:For two weeks during September 2021, English Heritage carried out repairs to the lintels at Stonehenge, replacing old degraded cement mortar that was used in the late 1950s to prevent weathering and secure the stones in position.
As in a movie, stage or tv set. You wouldn't run guy wires through the usable space of a building you were repairing, you render the space unusable. Using braces and tension wires out of camera/audience lines of sight is not unusual.propping up a set
Explain this phrase. As in a theatrical/movie set? Or is this some carpentry jargon?
From where they are sitting, maybe they are to wedge under the support post there if needed for a few more inches of height? Turned out they were not needed.What were they going to do with the bricks?
Homestead 2 is the money maker. it's where most of the stuff happens..like the bigfoot who came out of the dimension portal, and where their guys get all light headed and whoozy.Looks like maybe the crew was called on to save a picturesque old ranch structure to look nice in the background of exterior shots?
I think "don't provoke the 'entity'" (spirit, ET, bulletproof werewolf, or whatever else they can come up with) is merely priming the viewer to be scared. It's just like the scout leader telling ghost stories around the campfire. I really cannot tell how much of this they believe themselves.I'm sure they will claim that if they disturb the building it will provoke the phenomenon of bad stuff (which is why they are so afraid to dig!)... although this makes no sense because if you want to document the phenomenon you need to provoke the phenomenon.
i think that security guy believes it. he rolls his eyes at alot of the orb footage etc, but his body language suggests he is actually afraid of "psychic" attacks. unless he's a better actor than i give any of them credit for. (sometimes you can see them or the guest stars trying hard not to smile)I think "don't provoke the 'entity'" (spirit, ET, bulletproof werewolf, or whatever else they can come up with) is merely priming the viewer to be scared. It's just like the scout leader telling ghost stories around the campfire. I really cannot tell how much of this they believe themselves.
edit to add: Do they want to document it? The worst thing about photographing a phenomenon, from their standpoint, would be to find out it's something entirely mundane and easily explained. The whole enterprise comes crashing down at that point.
Is this too cynical? But after all, it's really just a species of reality show.
The question is... Are these people as cynical as the Pawn Star Crew (who are super cynical)? Or at some level do they believe their own malarkey?
thus? no. the minimal amount of shoring is because they have no idea what they are doing. it's still gonna fall unless they do a better job, regardless if they are keeping it purely for an aesthetic show piece or they are keeping it because if you knock down haunted buildings the haunting goes away.Having said that, I think it now serves as a set piece or decoration for the ranch, thus the minimal amount of shoring needed to keep it from collapsing.
I agree, I believe it is an old working building saved from collapse by workers using set-construction techniques.The building is likely real, not a constructed set piece
Now that I think of it, there is the famous "Will you hold the Goddamn hammering!" scene in Bill Murry's Scrooged. The one doing the hammering is an older guy hammering eyelets with doubled over wire rope, exactly like we see in the old building were talking about. The wires are to support or hold up the flats. So, it does seem to be a set-construction technique.I agree, I believe it is an old working building saved from collapse by workers using set-construction techniques.
Maybe. It could be what they know is set construction, not actual building. As a contractor, even if I was doing something really janky using what I had on hand, the use of wire cables would never cross my mind. And that amount of wire and wire clamps is just not something I, or most of my contractor buddies, would have laying around. But maybe set builder guys do, as @JMartJr suggested.thus? no. the minimal amount of shoring is because they have no idea what they are doing.
I'd want @Leifer to help me of course because i hate brushing overhead
It's not a great solution to the problem, as it doesn't necessarily improve the load-bearing aspect much, if at all. It obviously massively improves resistence to Euler buckling by reducing the degrees of freedom at the top, which is probably irrelevant, and also reduces the moment of the weight at the base (better: reduces the amount by which the moment will increase by any lateral movement), which is probably the most important thing; but it does that at the expense of adding significantly more compressive load at the base.Now that I think of it, there is the famous "Will you hold the Goddamn hammering!" scene in Bill Murry's Scrooged. The one doing the hammering is an older guy hammering eyelets with doubled over wire rope, exactly like we see in the old building were talking about. The wires are to support or hold up the flats. So, it does seem to be a set-construction technique.
you still have to work overhead with a ladder. (and we'd set up scaffolding). yea, he does faux finishes (trompe l'oeil) for movie sets.Is Leifer a painter, or just a big, tall strapping lad that can reach the rafters without a ladder?