NASA fakes Michael Collins' spacewalk photo (artistic representation of event)

[deirdre]

Claim: (emphasis mine)

NASA Photo Fakery

Photo 1 is from the book "Carrying the Fire" by Astronaut Michael Collins. It shows Collins in a no-gravity test inside an airplane. Collins is practicing for a space walk inside an aircraft (flying a zero-g loop to temporarily eliminate gravity). Collins is seen holding the jet reaction propulsion rod in his right hand.

Another famous photograph has Collins holding the jet reaction propulsion rod with his left hand while outside his Gemini 10 capsule -- he is, according to Collins and NASA, out in space on a spacewalk in Photo 2. That photograph is NASA picture #66-40127. Photo 2 is also from "Carrying the Fire" and is allegedly of a Gemini 10 space walk.


https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/nasa-photo-fakery

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Astronaut Michael Collins published a book in 1974 "Carrying the Fire". In the book there is a photo of what appears to be Collins floating in space. The only place this photo is found is in this book. There is no caption accompanying the photo.
note:

[Collins] left NASA in January 1970, and is Director of the National Air & Space Museum, Smithsonian Institution, in Washington,
https://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/collins-m.pdf

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It is very obvious and undisputed that the [photoshopped] photo originated from this photo:
Original NASA pic:


Source: https://archive.org/details/S66-40127


The original photo is ALSO in the book. And the caption reads: "The zer0-G airplane-sickening!"





https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=22243662718#&gid=1&pid=4



And Michael Collins states in the book: "One of the great disappointments of the flight was the fact that there were no photos of my space walk"




google books link





It is fun to note that in 1975 a London based publisher, W.H. ALLEN reprinting the book, took the artistic representation even further by sticking it on the dust jacket:


https://www.abebooks.com/9780491016032/Carrying-Fire-Astronauts-Journeys-Michael-0491016034/plp



So to summarize:
*I can find zero evidence that NASA, Collins or any of the publishers ever claimed this was an authentic photo OR was a photo of his spacewalk. There is zero evidence that NASA had any involvement at all.

* Collins tells us in the very book the photo originated from that "there were no photos of my spacewalk"

*The original photo is also in the book.

 

[One Big Monkey]

I can confirm, as someone who made the effort and bought the book, that no claim is made anywhere in it by anyone that the frontispiece illustration is anything other than a bit of artistic licence to mark the start of the book.

I can also confirm that it's a damned fine book.

 

[James Mercer]

Someone PLEASE get this post to Mick West attention! Joe Rogan used to believe in the Apollo hoax. He still believes that this photo was faked and he continues to repeat it as evidence that NASA faked one image, they probably faked more. Mick went on Rogans podcast last week. I was really hoping he would bring this up and set him straight. I have been spamming Rogans comment section for YEARS trying to set him straight on this photo but he obviously hasn't seen the comment and no one has brought it to his attention.

 

[Mick West]

Someone PLEASE get this post to Mick West attention! Joe Rogan used to believe in the Apollo hoax. He still believes that this photo was faked and he continues to repeat it as evidence that NASA faked one image, they probably faked more. Mick went on Rogans podcast last week. I was really hoping he would bring this up and set him straight. I have been spamming Rogans comment section for YEARS trying to set him straight on this photo but he obviously hasn't seen the comment and no one has brought it to his attention.

When did he last repeat it?

 

[James Mercer]

In the last few weeks, either with the crazy guy from Blink 182 or with Eddie Bravo, I cannot recall. But one I can find immediately is with time stamp 2:20

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mmlmxamw_k

 

[Mick West]

I'll try to remember to bring it up next time. Joe does seem to have a few things hanging around from his conspiracy days that he's just not looked into recently.

 

[James Mercer]

Thank you Mick. This one kills me every time I hear him repeat it.

 

[deirdre]

When did he last repeat it?

I actually wrote the 'debunk' FOR Joe Rogan. at 7:29 here
Source: https://youtu.be/GJziBQ6OLoQ?t=431


so this was July 2017

 

[Mick West]

I need to make a better list

 

[James Mercer]

Here he goes AGAIN @ 5:20 Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qefElgEv-H0
He just had this guest on a few days ago. So frustrating to hear him repeating this.

 

[deirdre]

He just had this guest on a few days ago. So frustrating to hear him repeating this.

did you twitter him the thread? I don't want to look for my twitter login info.

 

[James Mercer]

I'll try. I have never tweeted.

 

[James Mercer]

Okay I did it.

 

[James Mercer]

@ 10:57 podcast from yesterday. Same story about the fake Gemini photo. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_KT7YlVuKI

I really wish he'd have one of us on the podcast. He spews so many silly things about Apollo on this one.

 

[deirdre]

He spews so many silly things about Apollo on this one.

off topic.. but I don't see the point in a separate thread.

The Apollo suit, including the life support backpack, weighed about 180 pounds.

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so 1/6th gravity ..


Now, Joe Rogan is a heavy guy.. but surely he knows a scrappy 8 or 9 year old who can mimic that move with a 10-15 lb back pack on. (i'm scaling the weight to the kids size a bit) .Heck I could still do it and I'm old. I bet joe could do it (once they stop laughing) on Earth with a full 25 lb backpack, he should try it.. would be a fun video. he could put on a puffy snowsuit and big boots.

The footage does look funny because it's hard to see the astronauts' far arms. This video says "the wire is taking the weight" but the arm is taking the weight. Basically he is using his partner as a pole and his arm is doing all the work.



We can't completely mimic the little hop foot movement at the end because we have normal gravity here on Earth.



Source: https://youtu.be/Zz9Bzi_GyD0?t=127

 

[One Big Monkey]

In the end it's all these people have: "Gee it looks kinda funny" and "I don't understand this".

As they never bother to resolve the latter issue, they can't get their heads around the first one.

 

[Cedtomcat]

Now, Joe Rogan is a heavy guy.. but surely he knows a scrappy 8 or 9 year old who can mimic that move with a 10-15 lb back pack on. (i'm scaling the weight to the kids size a bit) .Heck I could still do it and I'm old. I bet joe could do it (once they stop laughing) on Earth with a full 25 lb backpack, he should try it.. would be a fun video. he could put on a puffy snowsuit and big boots.

Don't forget that, yes rhe suit weight 1/6th of it's weight on earth but the guy himself weight 1/6th himself...

 

[deirdre]

Don't forget that, yes rhe suit weight 1/6th of it's weight on earth but the guy himself weight 1/6th himself...

that's why I suggested a kid.. lower body weight is easier to move.

 

[James Mercer]

One big monkey, do you know if the guy running apollohoaxnut is still taking applications? I applied twice and haven't had any word back and have no way of contacting the owner.

 

[FlightMuj]

One big monkey, do you know if the guy running apollohoaxnut is still taking applications? I applied twice and haven't had any word back and have no way of contacting the owner.

Same problem with me on apollohoax.net.
Maybe One Big Monkey can help; he is a member.

 

[One Big Monkey]

I've alerted the site admin to this, and he has asked that people re-apply. Sometimes he doesn't get alerts and they expire, and if he gets multiple ones from the same people he treats them as spam

 

[FlightMuj]

...and if he gets multiple ones from the same people he treats them as spam

Well, I sent the application only once.

 

[James Mercer]

thanks so much brother. Just registered again.

 

[Lukes1040]

Don't forget that, yes rhe suit weight 1/6th of it's weight on earth but the guy himself weight 1/6th himself...

If you listen to the actual audio of the astronaut standing back up, he even says "give me your hand". Everyone that claims this is from wires fails to see his left hand in the right hand of the other astronaut. They usually leave out the audio of them talking as well.