Jake Barber tells Ross Coulthart about non-human technology - The "Egg"

Andreas said:
and I don't see where anyone could spot Grusch.
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Probably the man to the left of Barber in the colour photo. you can vaguely guess the hairline. And then a beard... Grusch is actually a strong guy too, it seemed to me. But I'm not at all sure about this person.
 
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jackfrostvc said:
I believe Klokus setup the event.
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Yes, that's obvious.
The man sitting to the right of Coulthart could very well be Klokus.
But seriously, Brandon Fugal would be awesome, wouldn't he? Maybe Steven Greenstreet has an opinion on that? I can't find his username on Metabunk right now to address him directly.
 
Nemon said:
Yes, that's obvious.
The man sitting to the right of Coulthart could very well be Klokus.
But seriously, Brandon Fugal would be awesome, wouldn't he? Maybe Steven Greenstreet has an opinion on that? I can't find his username on Metabunk right now to address him directly.
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Greenstreet said the guy in the front row, second to the right of the guy speaking with the mic is Klokus.


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Mark Pincus who is the founder of Zynga, a mobile social gaming company. was on the All In podcast.
He talks about someone contacting him who was making a doco and had also spoke to a DoD UAP person. I think he also spoke with this UAP person and summoning UAP was mentioned. Is it me, or does it sound like Jake Barber he is describing?

See cued up clip here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ35G6XI8Uw&t=5677s
 
MonkeeSage said:
So Barber, Coulthart and Klokus were apparently doing stuff in 2024 before Barber came out.
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According to your earlier post, this little shindig took place in October. Depending on how long Couthart's team worked on the Barber story, it could be contemporaneous, but I'm thinking the story was put together after this event. Who knows, maybe Coulthart met Barber there.

It seems Coulthart came out to California to interview Barber and collect some footage not long before the story aired.

In the B roll where Barber is out cosplaying looking for the bad guys, it's pretty certain that he's driving in a MRZR owned by US Tower Corp as identified by @john.phil in post #375, he's in some sort of rolling hills and it's obviously misty:


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Assuming this taking place not far from his home or US Tower Corp's California facility in Woodlake which is just up the road from Exeter, I'd speculate it's in the foot hills east of US Tower. It's close, quick and easy, there's all kinds of roads/trails running round here:

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So, he's either in valley fog if down in lower elevations or in some low hanging clouds. In both cases, in this part of California, it would mean it's winter time, likely sometime after October. Weather for nearby Fresno shows maybe one day or 2 with some possible fog, but much heavier fog and clouds into November and December:

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But more sporadic in January, in keeping with a warm and dry January:

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As for the shots of them at the local airport, it's obviously a clear day, but hard to tell the season. There are a number of oaks that stay green all year, particularly in parts of the valley. The trees just right of the ground-based dome look like they could be a bit sparser like losing their leaves:

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I'm not sure what Coulthart's schedule is like. Maybe he meets Barber at the Ennea event, or they already knew each other. Maybe Coulthart followed Barber from Big Sur on the central coast and down to the Fresno area where they conducted the interview and flew around in the helicopter in late October. Then some B roll was shot later, in November or December, with Barber running round in the mysterious looking mist looking for the bad guys. Or the whole thing was shot in November/December.

Or maybe the interview is all done before they go to the Enna event, then the wintertime B roll is added in. How long would Coulthart sit on an interview before airing it? A month or 2 or more than 4? Maybe he was waiting on the egg video or trying to figure out how to use it. IDK.

I always make the mistake of assuming what I'm seeing is in real time and lineal. I have to step back and remember lots of footage has been assembled in a particular way. I think it's clear Coulthart is nowhere near California when he introduces the segment with the egg video. He seems to be back down under:

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Dr Greer weighs in with his supposed insider knowledge that the egg in the video is made by skunkworks. He claims Elizondo et al are engaged in a CIA psyop and the heli video is one such example. Coulthart then responds denying the allegations. [Relevant segment starts at 10:18]

Source: https://youtu.be/BKLjVJQH9qo

I rate the veracity of Greer's testimony incredibly low but not much lower than Barbers. I thought some of you might find it entertaining regardless. The video covers the highly charged emotional attacks, accusations of being a terrorist, lawsuit threats etc., etc.. Frankly I had no idea there was such bad blood between the various factions of the ufologist community.

(Mods let me know if you'd like me to link the original videos directly instead of using this YouTubers video with added commentary. I appreciated he put it together and was unaware of the beef)
 
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Minus0 said:
(Mods let me know if you'd like me to link the original videos directly instead of using this YouTubers video with added commentary. I appreciated he put it together and was unaware of the beef)
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I found it very entertaining with the added commentary!
 
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.
 
Nemon said:
...the Coulthart guy, right?
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Nope not Coulthart. I've been trawling through IMDB and even asked ChatGPT to try and find him. He looks like Avi Loeb but with a much thinner face. God knows which of the many UFO or Paranormal show I saw the guy on

And it could end up not being him anyway
 
The bitter infighting between the various UFO Galileos.

In Robert Sheaffer's book - The UFO Verdict, copyright 1980 - there's a chapter called The UFO Movement: Galileos, Hatfields, and McCoys that briefly touches on the feuds of the 1960's and 70's. The problem with the Galileo Gambit is that there should only be one Galileo at a time. When you've got 20 guys, all claiming to be Galileo... hijinks ensue.

UFOlogy is an LP record with a closed circular groove that starts the music over on every spin. It just keeps going 'round and 'round.
 
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Z.W. Wolf said:
The bitter infighting between the various UFO Galileos.

In Robert Sheaffer's book - The UFO Verdict, copyright 1980 - there's a chapter called The UFO Movement: Galileos, Hatfields, and McCoys that briefly touches on the feuds of the 1960's and 70's. The problem with the Galileo Gambit is that there should only be one Galileo at a time. When you've got 20 guys, all claiming to be Galileo... hijinks ensue.

UFOlogy is an LP record with a closed circular groove that starts the music over on every spin. It just keeps going 'round and 'round.
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Everybody wants to be Alfred Wegener; no one wants to be Marie Tharp.
 
Calter said:
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.
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Interesting. I noted in another thread how it seemed the current social media conscious UFOlogist of today don't fight and rather constantly cross pollinate with each other. The Galilo idea that Z.W. Wolf mentioned was a big part of the infighting in the Bigfoot movement of the '60s-'80s. And in the UFO scene, John Lear introduced the world to Bill Cooper in the '80s. They ended up falling out as Cooper became a bigger star in the scene and he accused Lear of being a CIA operative. Hmmm.

To be fair, Greer has long been a bit on the outside of the current UFO scene, so maybe he's lashing out as his star has diminished over time.
 
Calter said:
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.
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That's a nice idea. Not a real "epiphany" crowd, however. ;)
 
Calter said:
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.
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I don't know if that day will ever come. It's almost an unfalsifiable allegation, and UFO enthusiasts/ ghost hunters/ homeopaths/ crystal therapists etc. rely a lot on unfalsifiable theories and "evidence".

The CIA isn't likely to identify field agents because a UFO enthusiast (or the Iranians, Chinese etc.) ask if someone's a CIA agent.
A bit like allegations of witchcraft in centuries past, the less actual evidence there is, the more the accused is proven to be dishonest and a master of deception by the accuser. Lack of evidence, or evidence of reliability and good character, show that the accused is a valued asset of "the dark side", which will go to great lengths to protect them.

Plus, it gives UFO enthusiasts the self-affirming belief that they are being taken seriously by people who know "The Truth"
(I don't think they are, and I don't think there is a "Truth" to be disclosed re. UFOs, other than lots of people have reported them but there's absolutely no testable evidence that any sighting/ incident, or combination of sightings/ incidents, indicates that aliens have ever visited Earth. And we have no testable evidence, yet, that any form of life exists off Earth unless we put it there).

The fact is, UFO enthusiasts love the idea that they've been noticed by responsible people, that they're "on to something".
 
Article:
The Pentagon has revealed that it is now investigating claims made by a government contractor that he retrieved a crashed 'egg-shaped' UFO.


this AARO guy is starting to irritate me. I wouldn't mind him pissing away tax payer money, if they would arrest these guys for leaking classified information once in a while. I wonder what other crap he is pissing our money away on.
 
deirdre said:
Article:
The Pentagon has revealed that it is now investigating claims made by a government contractor that he retrieved a crashed 'egg-shaped' UFO.


this AARO guy is starting to irritate me. I wouldn't mind him pissing away tax payer money, if they would arrest these guys for leaking classified information once in a while. I wonder what other crap he is pissing our money away on.
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Yeah, but AARO is supposed to do what ARRO is supposed to do. Despite it being a rather pro-UFO article with several quotes from Coulthart about a government cover up, the actual numbers are interesting:

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It's the latest report of UAPs (unidentified anomalous phenomena) the Pentagon admits they're actively investigating - adding this case to 21 others.

Those 21 UAP investigations were part of a stunning report which revealed that the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) received 757 cases of UAP encounters from US authorities mainly between May 1, 2023 and June 1, 2024.

That bombshell total included 272 incidents which occurred prior to 2023 but had never been reported publicly.
"Bombshell"? Really? But out of 757, only 21 are being looked into further. Around 400 of the reports were apparently vague enough that there is nothing to study:

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As for the 757 UAP reports revealed to the public in November, AARO said it expected to or has already dismissed nearly 300 as balloons, birds, or drones.

Over 400 allegedly didn't have enough data to keep the investigations open, leaving just 21 for AARO to continue probing - along with Jake Barber's egg-shaped craft.
In Barber's case, he did repot to ARRO I believe, so they have to look into it. And we should remember, Barber's egg is very similar to Fravor's Tic-Tac. Fravor described his encounter, but the video was by someone else after Fravor left the scene. As for Barber, while he describes an egg, neither Coulthart nor Barber ever say or confirm that the egg video is related to Barber. So, ARRO could be looking into Barber's claim and not the paying attention to the video.
 
NorCal Dave said:
In Barber's case, he did repot to ARRO
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i've only occasionally peeked at this thread..but i thought somewhere barber said he was not one of people interviewed by aaro. ??

NorCal Dave said:
Barber's egg is very similar to Fravor's Tic-Tac.
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No.

AARO is wasting our money on this one, UNLESS Barber did subcontract with them for random clean up and they are looking to prosecute him for spreading lies/ breaking NDA.
 
jdog said:
Everybody wants to be Alfred Wegener; no one wants to be Marie Tharp.
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there are some ufologists who are putting in the work of gathering observations to prove the outlandish theories; they're just not very successful (and we have a fairly good idea why).

"It is not enough to wear the mantle of Galileo: that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment. You must also be right." —Robert L. Park
 
NorCal Dave said:
We should almost throw out our guesses for the egg before the show starts. A vaguely egg-shaped object in a bad video under a helicopter that could be a buoy or anything else sorta round.

Or maybe a balloon.

Maybe @Duke or @Tezcatlipoca would know more about this, but IF this guy is a pilot for a retrieval group, his job would be to fly the helicopter and not necessarily know what he's picking up, right? Would he have a need to know, as long as he and his cargo master know the approximate weight and other pertinent details needed to transport it? This almost seems to be implied in the teaser segment. He "believed" some of the stuff was alien, meaning he wasn't TOLD it was alien, but he didn't seem to know what it actually was. Maybe he often wasn't told what he was retrieving.
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Apologies for replying to this super late but to my understanding, the infamous it depends. I figure if you were working for something like the actual Foreign Materials Exploitation Program, you would know you're assigned there, and probably roughly what you're doing. Personally don't know much about the inner workings of that but even if the knowledge was compartmentalized that in-depth internally, there's always the potential you could incidentally learn. Or as we see from following these groups, friends talk even in those programs so there's a lot of internal leakage.

I only note that because we do know of some limited cases where people in the programs doing the leg end did know exactly what they were doing, eg the various cases of tanks, planes, and helicopters. From my understanding in the well documented Glomar Explorer incident all the CIA people knew and I believe some of the civilian folks participating did too. Those are mostly Cold War cases though, and some into the early 2000s so it doesn't account for all the developments since then in the security practices.
Even when it comes to WMD materials, the teams doing things like that tend to explicitly know what they're doing. Not directly related but offered as a slight comparative for how other 'more serious' matters may be handled.
 
IMO the US UFO scene is overdue for a real bombshell. Corbell and Knapp's blurry pixel clips aren't turning heads anymore, and Luna's task force is bogged down in congressional red tape. Something massive has to drop this spring – I'm betting on a teaser announcement in March, then the real deal in April.

Jake Barber is a prime candidate to light it all up and top the charts. While Grusch quietly pulls strings behind the scenes in Congress as an advisor.

Clear signs point to momentum building around Barber, fueled by official probes, his Skywatcher demos, and surging buzz in the community since late 2025. The Pentagon's AARO has officially confirmed they're digging into his claims, scrutinizing videos, data, and reports from him and his team – they're even running live demos for the new AARO director, with preliminary findings eyed for late 2025 or early 2026. Barber's all in, stressing in chats with Coulthart and Cuomo that he'd testify before Congress without hesitation if protected, as his Skywatcher crew of ex-intel and aerospace pros keeps racking up data on drone sightings and psionic summoning experiments, backed by heavyweights like Col. John Blitch and Dr. Garry Nolan. Online, especially on Reddit's r/UFOs, threads are heating up, with folks hailing him as the next Grusch; Coulthart's calling the evidence "overwhelming" (which doesn't give it more credibilty…).
Spring 2026 feels spot on, with AARO results, NDAA hearings, and a Trump administration push potentially thrusting Barber into a blockbuster hearing – the kind of jolt the scene desperately needs, assuming AARO delivers and protections hold.
 
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Nemon said:
Luna's task force is bogged down in congressional red tape.
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My impression is that they are more bogged down in the lack of evidence coming from their whistle blowers and Big UFO than anything else. It's hard to move the ball forward oif the people who said they were bringing the ball don;t actually have one.

Nemon said:
Something massive has to drop this spring – I'm betting on a teaser announcement in March, then the real deal in April.
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Define "something massive?" If, as seems to be the case, there is no "there" there, then at most they could drop something that LOOKS massive until somebody looks closely and analyzes what they dropped!
 
Nemon said:
IMO the US UFO scene is overdue for a real bombshell. Corbell and Knapp's blurry pixel clips aren't turning heads anymore, and Luna's task force is bogged down in congressional red tape. Something massive has to drop this spring – I'm betting on a teaser announcement in March, then the real deal in April.

Jake Barber is a prime candidate to light it all up and top the charts. While Grusch quietly pulls strings behind the scenes in Congress as an advisor.

Clear signs point to momentum building around Barber, fueled by official probes, his Skywatcher demos, and surging buzz in the community since late 2025. The Pentagon's AARO has officially confirmed they're digging into his claims, scrutinizing videos, data, and reports from him and his team – they're even running live demos for the new AARO director, with preliminary findings eyed for late 2025 or early 2026. Barber's all in, stressing in chats with Coulthart and Cuomo that he'd testify before Congress without hesitation if protected, as his Skywatcher crew of ex-intel and aerospace pros keeps racking up data on drone sightings and psionic summoning experiments, backed by heavyweights like Col. John Blitch and Dr. Garry Nolan. Online, especially on Reddit's r/UFOs, threads are heating up, with folks hailing him as the next Grusch; Coulthart's calling the evidence "overwhelming" (which doesn't give it more credibilty…).
Spring 2026 feels spot on, with AARO results, NDAA hearings, and a Trump administration push potentially thrusting Barber into a blockbuster hearing – the kind of jolt the scene desperately needs, assuming AARO delivers and protections hold.
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Barber and Fowler claimed their Skywatcher team can summon alien spacecraft and interact with them and that they had developed repeatable methods to do this on a recurring basis and had collected video and other sensor data to prove it. When they released videos, endorsed by Garry Nolan who insisted on camera that they did not appear to be mundane, they were indistinguishable from mundane things like insects, birds, and balloons. Barber also participated in the 2024 "drone" hysteria in NJ and filmed objects indistinguishable from low altitude airplanes on approach to an airport. This was promoted by Sol Foundation media producer Marik von Rennenkampf. In none of these instances of video footage was any reason given to believe it was anything out of the ordinary. In the time since, two of the 'psionics' who were on the Skywatcher team and were telling them that the objects they were filming were alien entities, have gone on to film and present even worse videos than they did at Skywatcher, which merely showed satellites and stars, which the 'psionics' were totally convinced were aliens they were telepathically interacting with.

There's nothing there. Just entirely confusion and fantasy (and maybe some fraud, e.g. James Fowler was hired for some kind of DoD contract after his failed media tour for Skywatcher), and people like Nolan should be embarrassed they fell for it and promoted it.
 
Kyle Ferriter said:
... In the time since, two of the 'psionics' who were on the Skywatcher team and were telling them that the objects they were filming were alien entities, have gone on to film and present even worse videos than they did at Skywatcher, which merely showed satellites and stars, which the 'psionics' were totally convinced were aliens they were telepathically interacting with.

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I mean, even if the ability existed, how would you even know if the object you and everyone else was looking at was the thing you thought you were interacting with?

I'm fantasizing an actual alien infiltrating one of those events and then telepathically chit-chatting with the scam artist while the ISS passes overhead. "Yes, I'm totally up here in space, and I can see you're wearing a... blue jacket and corduroy pants."

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Nemon said:
Barber's all in, stressing in chats with Coulthart and Cuomo that he'd testify before Congress without hesitation if protected,
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Note the qualifying "if protected". These are the words that lets them make claim after claim without having to actually show up. If you study the AARO records of their interactions with Mr. Grusch you will see that no matter what gurantees they offered him he always insisted that they were somehow 'not enough', and thus he would never talk to them.

It's up to them to make whatever they think they have public WITHOUT being given a publicly funded stage to perform on, where they can make claims and then refuse to answer questions because they are "afraid of government retaliation" or MIB snipers.
 
Harabeck said:
I think that's Nemon's point? If we view the UFO space through the lens of a commercial entertainment enterprise, they're due to release a new product.
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Yes, you got me exactly right.
JMartJr said:
Define "something massive?" If, as seems to be the case, there is no "there" there, then at most they could drop something that LOOKS massive until somebody looks closely and analyzes what they dropped!
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You didn't quite get what I meant. Maybe I've just been inactive here for too long for my perspective to be taken for granted. But looking back at the start of this thread might clear things up.

@all Treat my post as a note on something I'd bet a lot of money on. It may not unfold exactly in this form, but with the built‑in dramaturgy of the whole thing, I'm expecting some pretty 'dramatic' developments along these lines very soon. Be prepared ;-)
 
Nemon said:
You didn't quite get what I meant. Maybe I've just been inactive here for too long for my perspective to be taken for granted. But looking back at the start of this thread might clear things up.
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Then I think we're in general agreement on this, so I suppose read my post as an addition to what you wrote rather than as a reputation!
 
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