Jake Barber tells Ross Coulthart about non-human technology - The "Egg"

and I don't see where anyone could spot Grusch.
Probably the man to the left of Barber in the colour photo. you can vaguely guess the hairline. And then a beard... Grusch is actually a strong guy too, it seemed to me. But I'm not at all sure about this person.
 
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I believe Klokus setup the event.
Yes, that's obvious.
The man sitting to the right of Coulthart could very well be Klokus.
But seriously, Brandon Fugal would be awesome, wouldn't he? Maybe Steven Greenstreet has an opinion on that? I can't find his username on Metabunk right now to address him directly.
 
Yes, that's obvious.
The man sitting to the right of Coulthart could very well be Klokus.
But seriously, Brandon Fugal would be awesome, wouldn't he? Maybe Steven Greenstreet has an opinion on that? I can't find his username on Metabunk right now to address him directly.
Greenstreet said the guy in the front row, second to the right of the guy speaking with the mic is Klokus.


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Mark Pincus who is the founder of Zynga, a mobile social gaming company. was on the All In podcast.
He talks about someone contacting him who was making a doco and had also spoke to a DoD UAP person. I think he also spoke with this UAP person and summoning UAP was mentioned. Is it me, or does it sound like Jake Barber he is describing?

See cued up clip here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ35G6XI8Uw&t=5677s
 
So Barber, Coulthart and Klokus were apparently doing stuff in 2024 before Barber came out.

According to your earlier post, this little shindig took place in October. Depending on how long Couthart's team worked on the Barber story, it could be contemporaneous, but I'm thinking the story was put together after this event. Who knows, maybe Coulthart met Barber there.

It seems Coulthart came out to California to interview Barber and collect some footage not long before the story aired.

In the B roll where Barber is out cosplaying looking for the bad guys, it's pretty certain that he's driving in a MRZR owned by US Tower Corp as identified by @john.phil in post #375, he's in some sort of rolling hills and it's obviously misty:


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Assuming this taking place not far from his home or US Tower Corp's California facility in Woodlake which is just up the road from Exeter, I'd speculate it's in the foot hills east of US Tower. It's close, quick and easy, there's all kinds of roads/trails running round here:

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So, he's either in valley fog if down in lower elevations or in some low hanging clouds. In both cases, in this part of California, it would mean it's winter time, likely sometime after October. Weather for nearby Fresno shows maybe one day or 2 with some possible fog, but much heavier fog and clouds into November and December:

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But more sporadic in January, in keeping with a warm and dry January:

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As for the shots of them at the local airport, it's obviously a clear day, but hard to tell the season. There are a number of oaks that stay green all year, particularly in parts of the valley. The trees just right of the ground-based dome look like they could be a bit sparser like losing their leaves:

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I'm not sure what Coulthart's schedule is like. Maybe he meets Barber at the Ennea event, or they already knew each other. Maybe Coulthart followed Barber from Big Sur on the central coast and down to the Fresno area where they conducted the interview and flew around in the helicopter in late October. Then some B roll was shot later, in November or December, with Barber running round in the mysterious looking mist looking for the bad guys. Or the whole thing was shot in November/December.

Or maybe the interview is all done before they go to the Enna event, then the wintertime B roll is added in. How long would Coulthart sit on an interview before airing it? A month or 2 or more than 4? Maybe he was waiting on the egg video or trying to figure out how to use it. IDK.

I always make the mistake of assuming what I'm seeing is in real time and lineal. I have to step back and remember lots of footage has been assembled in a particular way. I think it's clear Coulthart is nowhere near California when he introduces the segment with the egg video. He seems to be back down under:

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Dr Greer weighs in with his supposed insider knowledge that the egg in the video is made by skunkworks. He claims Elizondo et al are engaged in a CIA psyop and the heli video is one such example. Coulthart then responds denying the allegations. [Relevant segment starts at 10:18]

Source: https://youtu.be/BKLjVJQH9qo

I rate the veracity of Greer's testimony incredibly low but not much lower than Barbers. I thought some of you might find it entertaining regardless. The video covers the highly charged emotional attacks, accusations of being a terrorist, lawsuit threats etc., etc.. Frankly I had no idea there was such bad blood between the various factions of the ufologist community.

(Mods let me know if you'd like me to link the original videos directly instead of using this YouTubers video with added commentary. I appreciated he put it together and was unaware of the beef)
 
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(Mods let me know if you'd like me to link the original videos directly instead of using this YouTubers video with added commentary. I appreciated he put it together and was unaware of the beef)
I found it very entertaining with the added commentary!
 
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.
 
...the Coulthart guy, right?
Nope not Coulthart. I've been trawling through IMDB and even asked ChatGPT to try and find him. He looks like Avi Loeb but with a much thinner face. God knows which of the many UFO or Paranormal show I saw the guy on

And it could end up not being him anyway
 
The bitter infighting between the various UFO Galileos.

In Robert Sheaffer's book - The UFO Verdict, copyright 1980 - there's a chapter called The UFO Movement: Galileos, Hatfields, and McCoys that briefly touches on the feuds of the 1960's and 70's. The problem with the Galileo Gambit is that there should only be one Galileo at a time. When you've got 20 guys, all claiming to be Galileo... hijinks ensue.

UFOlogy is an LP record with a closed circular groove that starts the music over on every spin. It just keeps going 'round and 'round.
 
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The bitter infighting between the various UFO Galileos.

In Robert Sheaffer's book - The UFO Verdict, copyright 1980 - there's a chapter called The UFO Movement: Galileos, Hatfields, and McCoys that briefly touches on the feuds of the 1960's and 70's. The problem with the Galileo Gambit is that there should only be one Galileo at a time. When you've got 20 guys, all claiming to be Galileo... hijinks ensue.

UFOlogy is an LP record with a closed circular groove that starts the music over on every spin. It just keeps going 'round and 'round.
Everybody wants to be Alfred Wegener; no one wants to be Marie Tharp.
 
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.

Interesting. I noted in another thread how it seemed the current social media conscious UFOlogist of today don't fight and rather constantly cross pollinate with each other. The Galilo idea that Z.W. Wolf mentioned was a big part of the infighting in the Bigfoot movement of the '60s-'80s. And in the UFO scene, John Lear introduced the world to Bill Cooper in the '80s. They ended up falling out as Cooper became a bigger star in the scene and he accused Lear of being a CIA operative. Hmmm.

To be fair, Greer has long been a bit on the outside of the current UFO scene, so maybe he's lashing out as his star has diminished over time.
 
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.
That's a nice idea. Not a real "epiphany" crowd, however. ;)
 
I find it interesting when people in ufology get called out by others as CIA plants. It's only a matter of time before one of them has an epiphany in real time that calling everyone you disagree with a CIA plant is not an actual argument.

I don't know if that day will ever come. It's almost an unfalsifiable allegation, and UFO enthusiasts/ ghost hunters/ homeopaths/ crystal therapists etc. rely a lot on unfalsifiable theories and "evidence".

The CIA isn't likely to identify field agents because a UFO enthusiast (or the Iranians, Chinese etc.) ask if someone's a CIA agent.
A bit like allegations of witchcraft in centuries past, the less actual evidence there is, the more the accused is proven to be dishonest and a master of deception by the accuser. Lack of evidence, or evidence of reliability and good character, show that the accused is a valued asset of "the dark side", which will go to great lengths to protect them.

Plus, it gives UFO enthusiasts the self-affirming belief that they are being taken seriously by people who know "The Truth"
(I don't think they are, and I don't think there is a "Truth" to be disclosed re. UFOs, other than lots of people have reported them but there's absolutely no testable evidence that any sighting/ incident, or combination of sightings/ incidents, indicates that aliens have ever visited Earth. And we have no testable evidence, yet, that any form of life exists off Earth unless we put it there).

The fact is, UFO enthusiasts love the idea that they've been noticed by responsible people, that they're "on to something".
 
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The Pentagon has revealed that it is now investigating claims made by a government contractor that he retrieved a crashed 'egg-shaped' UFO.


this AARO guy is starting to irritate me. I wouldn't mind him pissing away tax payer money, if they would arrest these guys for leaking classified information once in a while. I wonder what other crap he is pissing our money away on.
 
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The Pentagon has revealed that it is now investigating claims made by a government contractor that he retrieved a crashed 'egg-shaped' UFO.


this AARO guy is starting to irritate me. I wouldn't mind him pissing away tax payer money, if they would arrest these guys for leaking classified information once in a while. I wonder what other crap he is pissing our money away on.

Yeah, but AARO is supposed to do what ARRO is supposed to do. Despite it being a rather pro-UFO article with several quotes from Coulthart about a government cover up, the actual numbers are interesting:

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It's the latest report of UAPs (unidentified anomalous phenomena) the Pentagon admits they're actively investigating - adding this case to 21 others.

Those 21 UAP investigations were part of a stunning report which revealed that the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) received 757 cases of UAP encounters from US authorities mainly between May 1, 2023 and June 1, 2024.

That bombshell total included 272 incidents which occurred prior to 2023 but had never been reported publicly.
"Bombshell"? Really? But out of 757, only 21 are being looked into further. Around 400 of the reports were apparently vague enough that there is nothing to study:

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As for the 757 UAP reports revealed to the public in November, AARO said it expected to or has already dismissed nearly 300 as balloons, birds, or drones.

Over 400 allegedly didn't have enough data to keep the investigations open, leaving just 21 for AARO to continue probing - along with Jake Barber's egg-shaped craft.
In Barber's case, he did repot to ARRO I believe, so they have to look into it. And we should remember, Barber's egg is very similar to Fravor's Tic-Tac. Fravor described his encounter, but the video was by someone else after Fravor left the scene. As for Barber, while he describes an egg, neither Coulthart nor Barber ever say or confirm that the egg video is related to Barber. So, ARRO could be looking into Barber's claim and not the paying attention to the video.
 
In Barber's case, he did repot to ARRO
i've only occasionally peeked at this thread..but i thought somewhere barber said he was not one of people interviewed by aaro. ??

Barber's egg is very similar to Fravor's Tic-Tac.
No.

AARO is wasting our money on this one, UNLESS Barber did subcontract with them for random clean up and they are looking to prosecute him for spreading lies/ breaking NDA.
 
Everybody wants to be Alfred Wegener; no one wants to be Marie Tharp.
there are some ufologists who are putting in the work of gathering observations to prove the outlandish theories; they're just not very successful (and we have a fairly good idea why).

"It is not enough to wear the mantle of Galileo: that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment. You must also be right." —Robert L. Park
 
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