Debunked: FunVax, Pentagon Briefing on Removing the God Gene [Hoax]

Mick West

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This is interesting, a video interview of the supposed "FunVax Scientist" (the guy with the DNA tie)

(Not Dean Hamer, who is a real person who popularized the "God Gene" idea).

Rather odd that they could get in contact with the scientist, ask him about his super secret world-shattering work, and post it on YouTube, but not get his name.

 
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Bill

Senior Member.
This is interesting, a video interview of the supposed "FunVax Scientist" (the guy with the DNA tie)

(Not Dean Hamer, who is a real person who popularized the "God Gene" idea).

Rather odd that they could get in contact with the scientist, ask him about his super secret world-shattering work, and post it on YouTube, but not get his name.
Everyone knows that when you are creating a new super-virus you hide the names of the people involved and not the technical information that would be useful in developing an antivirus.
 
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Leighton

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Everyone knows that when you are creating a new super-virus you hide the names of the people involved and not the technical information that would be useful in developing an antivirus.
Hi readers,

The man in the video says:

"so if someone asked me to design a vaccine"

Are you guys stating that he is the guy who developed the vaccine?

He is answering a hypothetical question asked of him: how would he go about the design of a vaccine, such as funvax...

So he is supposed to be an expert answering questions not the funvax scientist......

Am I missing something???


Please explain..

Thanks.
 

Mick West

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Staff member
Hi readers,

The man in the video says:

"so if someone asked me to design a vaccine"

Are you guys stating that he is the guy who developed the vaccine?

He is answering a hypothetical question asked of him: how would he go about the design of a vaccine, such as funvax...

So he is supposed to be an expert answering questions not the funvax scientist......

Am I missing something???


Please explain..

Thanks.
He's just an anonymous guy that is being used (knowingly or not) to perpetuate the story.
 

Marin B

Active Member
Someone on YouTube noticed the pictures were similar.

I (Mick) found the matching image using Google.

Seems like this blog is responsible for it:
http://funvax.wordpress.com/

Seems like it started early 2011, and the video was released in June 2011

It spread via youtube, Facebook and the various conspiracy sites.

I'm really impressed that you found the original publication of the brain image. Do you have a program that matches images, or just a lot of patience looking at Google images?
 

Mick West

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I'm really impressed that you found the original publication of the brain image. Do you have a program that matches images, or just a lot of patience looking at Google images?
I did have to crop a bit of the image, but this is literally all I did, a few seconds.
 

Egu

New Member
I have read the thread, and first I totally believed it was a scam, but then I thought of another possibility: that the fact that the slides are not scientific or fake does not imply that the whole thing did not happen. How about scientist wanting to impress and sell a placebo drug that they know won't work but still the US is wanting to implement it? You see, the fact that the slides are fake... does not mean these are genuine people wanting to make a business off the US administration.
 

Mick West

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I thought of another possibility: that the fact that the slides are not scientific or fake does not imply that the whole thing did not happen.
Yes it does. Otherwise, you've got people trying to scam the Pentagon using an utterly unbelievable story using fake evidence that's trivially easy to debunk. So that all implies it did not happen, especially as nobody was arrested for fraud.
 

Dan Wilson

Senior Member.
How about scientist wanting to impress and sell a placebo drug that they know won't work but still the US is wanting to implement it?
That would be an enormous waste of time and money if they knew it was a placebo but still wanted to sell it. Are you thinking it would still have an effect as a placebo? In that case, the person taking the drug would have to want to be converted from more fanatic to less fanatic, be aware of what the drug is supposed to do, and be aware that they have received it. It would not make any sense to expect a plan like that to work.
 

MaybeOneGrape

New Member
This popped up on twitter again, and forgive me if I'm doing this wrong:

It seems to me that if there is a "god gene," that is to say a gene that, when expressed, produces behavior akin to religious zealotry, that gene would need to be explained as reproductively advantageous. Now, we can get around this by saying 'individuals expressing this gene have a tendency to rape.' That's, frankly, an ugly interpretation of what we're talking about here. Long before social contracts involving religion-based rape, there would have had to have been a physical advantage to being religious. I think pattern recognition meets that criteria. There is, I think, selective pressure to 'believe' a pattern means something.

Now, that is not to say that all patterns are significant. But if there were a gene, a tendency, for an individual to consider a rustle of grass being meaningful, being worthwhile of attention, that might mean survival versus predation. And if it's just the wind, well, no harm no foul. But the ones who ignored the rustle of grass, well, we know what happened to them.

There absolutely is genetic selection pressure, especially during the 200 million years before the emergence of modern humans, to be paranoid, devout, unreasonable conspiracy theorists, because prior performance predicts future success. Jumping at shadows is our bread and butter, friends. It's what got us here.

Now, in the context of this gem here, none of these "top brass" in the audience asked "what are the side effects."
No concern at all. That may have been a selective edit, but if I were in that audience the first question in my mind would have been "Professor, you're talking about a communicable virus which disables the human mind from recognizing patterns. What controls have you instituted that allow you to target ONLY religious extremism, and not regular social interaction? Threat detection. The minutia of facial expression. Sir, have you created the autism virus?"

And then the scientist would be like "gentlemen, I would rather live in a world of Autists, than continue on as such."

"Harrumph harrumph" they would say, but it would be too late, for the virus had already left Logan INTL an hour before.
 

Mick West

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Staff member
Now, in the context of this gem here, none of these "top brass" in the audience asked "what are the side effects."
No concern at all.
That's because the entire thing is a hoax, a provocative art project. That's probably just a bunch of Ryan Harper's friends.
 

eastbeast

New Member
The video is obviously a fake... However, it appears that the pictures of the brain in question are in fact being projected onto the screen behind the presenter. Don't want to get into why I think that this has not been photoshopped, you can perform your own analysis of that. So the question becomes, what the fuck is going on? The people in the room are pentagon types, not neurosurgeons discussing the neurological effects of meth addiction. It was reported that this video was faked by students. The men in this video are grown men... I understand the audio could have been dubbed, but... why are meth addiction slides being presentation to military types? Unless they are actors. If the voices are dubbed they are adult voices, men in their 40s, not students. So this seems like a group of grownups, extremely talented and smart ones, who almost pulled off a masterful scam. The acting is so good that I would have never guessed that this was a fake. Even in studio movies with really good acting, the acting is not this believable. The innuendos, the timing, the human banter and scorn. It's an awfully good reproduction of an alleged historical event.

This video seems more like an expert attempt to disinform the public and cause acute resentment towards the United States government, and as such, I suspect that it was done by a group that had more interest than web hits. There aren't even any ads on the site. I suspect that what happened is someone created this hoax to cause public unrest, the hoax was uncovered much faster than they imagined, and so now the project has been shut down. What group would want to do this?
There are a lot of groups who would want to do this... Unfortunately. I'm curious who actually created this fake and why would someone pay for it (as I agree that it's done semi-profesionally, not by some throwaway account)?

The video is all over Russian TV now, they are exploiting this fake to the max, attached is one example. They claim that Bill Gates is in the video, everything else is pretty much the same: the Pentagon is trying to turn religious people into obedient atheists, except now the propagandists tie it to the covid 19 outbreak.
 

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Mick West

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There are a lot of groups who would want to do this... Unfortunately. I'm curious who actually created this fake and why would someone pay for it (as I agree that it's done semi-profesionally, not by some throwaway account)?
Like I said in the OP, the prime suspect is Ryan Harper, doing it as a publicly stunt, maybe trying to do a documentary about the process of fooling people.
 

Joe

Senior Member
Video is making its rounds on Twitter with a blurred version saying its Bill Gates , Sure sounded like him , Thanks Mick the rabbit hole almost got me :)
 
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