see:I know I've seen this photo here but I can't find it anywhere and google images brings up conspiracy sites.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...65176835.61035.100003622311420&type=1&theater
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This is from:
http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=116894
High res image:External Quote:Air Force reservists assigned to the 302nd Airlift Wing load a U.S. Forest Service Modular Airborne Fire Fighting System unit onto a C-130 Hercules at Peterson Air Force Base, Colo., June 24, 2012. The 302nd Airlift Wing has been tasked by the National Interagency Fire Center to support wildland aerial firefighting missions in the Rocky Mountain area. U.S. Air Force photo by Ann Skarban
http://www.defense.gov/DODCMSShare/NewsStoryPhoto/2012-06/hrs_120624-F-JI045-005.jpg
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Emirates/Boeing-777-21H/0718260/L/I know I've seen this photo here but I can't find it anywhere and google images brings up conspiracy sites.
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External Quote:
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A6-EMD (cn 27247/30) From Frankfurt bound for Dubai.
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Pretty much all from airliners.net, with planes identified.Another one of the Haik Hoax photos which were sent to Brian Holmes in 2005:
http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2011/11/geoengineering-our-environment-under-attack#comment-106725
Here are the thumbnails from that, see if you recognize some, they have been spammed all over the chemtrail sites:
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http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/weather/2013/04/30/reader-weather-photos/1413945/External Quote:Sky streets: Cloud streets, which are long rows of parallel cumulus clouds, appear over northern Florida last week. The photo was taken from 35,000 feet in altitude. These clouds tend to form on sunny days over a flat region. = Mike Skoczen
The photographer could have given context to the shot, but chose not to do so, or Marciano has ripped off the video unattributed and withheld that information.Many among the chemtrail community do not distinguish between these aerodynamic condensation trails and the more common exhaust condensation trails.
Aerodynamic condensation trails typically occur well below normal cruise altitude (but somewhat above freezing level) which is why they are characterized as "low altitude". I suppose they mean 'low altitude, in comparison to exhaust condensation trails'.
Source caption reads:
http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/weather/2013/04/30/reader-weather-photos/1413945/External Quote:Sky streets: Cloud streets, which are long rows of parallel cumulus clouds, appear over northern Florida last week. The photo was taken from 35,000 feet in altitude. These clouds tend to form on sunny days over a flat region. = Mike Skoczen
Debunked: Chemtrail Plane and Other Unlabeled Photos from Facebook etc.
from FB page: "Chemtrail World"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...011.1073741825.608508652513910&type=1&theater
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(debunked here)
The original image was sent-in to USA Today, by a reader.
Source caption reads:
http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/weather/2013/04/30/reader-weather-photos/1413945/External Quote:Sky streets: Cloud streets, which are long rows of parallel cumulus clouds, appear over northern Florida last week. The photo was taken from 35,000 feet in altitude. These clouds tend to form on sunny days over a flat region. = Mike Skoczen
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The photographer could have given context to the shot, but chose not to do so, or Marciano has ripped off the video unattributed and withheld that information.
Ross, I see you commented on this aerodynamic contrail video:
Do you fellows think I have this one right as a Gulf Air??
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I found a video of PIA B-777:Looks more like Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) to me. GA has full gold nose in front of the black band and gold and blue on the engine cowlings
Well, it is rather complex, and rather simple.
Simple bit: It has nothing to do with altitude, as such.
Complex bit: It has a lot to do with temperature and Relative Humidity.
Persistent contrails of any type can occur at any altitude provided the required temperature and relative humidity conditions are met.
We've seen photos of exhaust condensation trails on take-off at ground level in, where was it? Alaska, Canada?
Caption-less, un-researched, and unlabeled photos on FB, ......is like the game of posting a photo, and suggesting that people, "caption this....".
This newer FB page, "Chemtrail World"....is rife with examples.
(so much so, that even the CT believers are complaining, "where's the source?")
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...429.1073741829.608508652513910&type=1&theater
(possible image sources)
(re: Chemtrail World...fb page)Page has to be a joke?
(re: Chemtrail World...fb page)
Chemtrailers do not usually debate or confront each others' wild ideas in a forum or Facebook setting; simply because....that is the space set aside for "non-ridicule". They get enough ridicule in the real-world if they voice their opinions.....and is why they ban all dissenters, or anyone who disagrees with their freedom to speak.
I'm pretty sure they don't debate each other's wild ideas at all - all I've ever seen is them accepting everything that anyone punts up, with very rare exceptions.
The reason they suppress contrary comments in public forums is exactly the same reason they don't engage in reasoned debate anywhere else - they don't like being old they are wrong (IMO)
Any believers of a group-idea can do this......try to lock-out/block-out >>> all non-believers. Yes, it's censorship. It's use is historically repeated....
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Chemtrailers do not usually debate or confront each others' wild ideas in a forum or Facebook setting; simply because....that is the space set aside for "non-ridicule". They get enough ridicule in the real-world if they voice their opinions.....and is why they ban all dissenters, or anyone who disagrees with their freedom to speak.
Caption-less, un-researched, and unlabeled photos on FB, ......is like the game of posting a photo, and suggesting that people, "caption this....".
This newer FB page, "Chemtrail World"....is rife with examples.
(so much so, that even the CT believers are complaining, "where's the source?")
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...429.1073741829.608508652513910&type=1&theater
(possible image sources)
Another one of the Haik Hoax photos which were sent to Brian Holmes in 2005:
http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2011/11/geoengineering-our-environment-under-attack#comment-106725
Here are the thumbnails from that, see if you recognize some, they have been spammed all over the chemtrail sites:
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External Quote:
Randy Leifer I am calling BS on that whole article. I believe it's a hoax.
Chemtrail World I did not post this.randy.stop calling me out.do you want the boot?
Klm
Chemtrail World I posted dis info papers.
Klm
Chemtrail World Thats me.i posted this because there were a lot of people today causing problems,being unfriendly.so I posted this so people could handle trolls better.why.have a problem with that?
Klm
Chemtrail World Have them bow down and reply to me!lol
Klm
(summary)
Randy LeiferRandy Leifer -- I am calling BS on that whole article.
Chemtrail World -- I did not post this.randy.stop calling me out (Klm)
Randy Leifer -- Then who did post it ? How am I to address the proper person ?
Chemtrail World -- I posted dis info papers. (Klm)
Chemtrail World -- Thats me.i posted this because.........(Klm)
....now I see. I don't have time to waste on this game/folly. I'm not a kid playing pranks.
I have saved this whole page as a screen-shot....so if anyone needs to see it, they will.
I was hoping to have a debate, but what you gave was lies and deception. Documented.
I'm pretty sure they don't debate each other's wild ideas at all - all I've ever seen is them accepting everything that anyone punts up, with very rare exceptions.
The reason they suppress contrary comments in public forums is exactly the same reason they don't engage in reasoned debate anywhere else - they don't like being told they are wrong (IMO)
It happens rarely. Glass house syndrome usually ends it. They have so many skeletons who wants to risk them coming out for air?I've seen them go at it on Chemtrails Global Skywatch. Sometimes one will complain not all the cloud photos are geoengineerd. The went after Scott Stevens awhile ago.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/vc10.cfmExternal Quote:Each tanker variant of VC10 carries a different fuel load. The K3 is equipped with fuselage fuel tanks, mounted in the passenger compartment, and can carry up to 78 tonnes of fuel.
Video out by Rosario Marciano (Tankerenemy)...
This one is making the rounds, no provenance, probably cropped from a spotter's image
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Any ideas? Tineye gave me no results.
the only site associated with it in search is that look up uk thing. and since he seems to be trying to show 'secret nozzles' right behind engines in his other pics, and based on the next pic he might be saying its a 777 (so not a fuel dump). my guess is photoshop? http://www.look-up.org.uk/This one is making the rounds, no provenance, probably cropped from a spotter's image
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Any ideas? Tineye gave me no results.
...he might be saying its a 777 (so not a fuel dump).