Collapsing church structure caught on camera-Nigeria

vooke

Active Member
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/14/world/africa/nigeria-church-collapse/
Background,
SCOAN is a church organization in Nigeria headed by a man, T B Joshua. They had a two storey structure and were in the process of adding three more floors when the building collapsed last Friday. The church went into denial mode and attribute the collapse to an aircraft that overflew the structure at least 50 minutes before the collapse. Here is the church website; http://www.scoan.org/

911 Controlled demolition connection
The collapse was caught on camera and though grainy, it is evident that the collapse was near-symmetrical. 911 CTers have repeatedly insisted that anything close to symmetrical collapse is impossible unless some explosives simultaneously blew away supporting columns leaving the building to collapse on itself

The building in question was just 5/6 stories but the collapse is near symmetrical yet nothing inside the structure was moved
 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
https://www.facebook.com/tbjministries/posts/719283484859097

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and more

why am i thinking of the tower of babel anyhoo maybe a donation can help solve all this

http://www.scoan.org/give/
 

vooke

Active Member
I posted this video to illustrate the 'symmetrical' collapse for a building but at this rate these 'unupdated minds particularly African' :)may need debunking

The plane was last over flew at 1154H while the building collapsed at 1244H.
 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
I posted this video to illustrate the 'symmetrical' collapse for a building but at this rate these 'unupdated minds particularly African' :)may need debunking

The plane was last over flew at 1154H while the building collapsed at 1244H.
yes i saw that and was desperately trying to figure how a plane no matter how "strange" can cause building collapse. im trying to find a weather report for this city at the time to see what the winds were doing. Then any collaborative data or pictures from within the structure prior to failure,,a maybe is from the churches FB site but its hard work digging though minds sets in cults.
 

Trailblazer

Moderator
Staff member
The first "aircraft" looks more like a bird to me, as far as can be seen from the very grainy and distant video. But it is very difficult to get a sense of scale.
 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
ok no luck with winds can only find was a nice day.... Planes,,, well the airports only a few clicks away so most likely air traffic is passing by depending on wind directions and flight paths now how to dig out tracked plane movements on the day??

lagoschurch.PNG
 

vooke

Active Member
http://www.nairaland.com/1910423/how-illuminati-collapsed-tb-joshua#26429967

 

KAT

Active Member
OK, so the prophet is on the mountain, praying. He fails to notice a strange plane buzzing the mountain. But he DOES get cell phone signal there, so his parishioners can ring him to tell him about the plane just overhead. This makes him leave the mountain. The plane flies four times around the building (just like Jericho, though that was circumnavigated 7 times, maybe on foot it takes more??) then by delayed action 50 minutes later the guest house collapses. Makes sense.

As the prophet apparently still believes in God, so perhaps God could advise him next time construct all floors at the same time. Adding extra floors to buildings seems to cause them to collapse quite often even without overflights by illuminati aircraft, cf various Bengladesh and Pakistan factory building collapses in recent years. Also he should turn his phone off while praying, not to be distracted. And not let 80 people into the building while it is still not finished and still has the scaffolding up.

The far (right hand) corner of the building seems to go down first. But it DOES go straight down, not outwards. There are some interesting shots of how if all pancaked.

https://www.google.com/search?q=syn...sSPuASGtIGwCg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=941&bih=539

Ahhhhh
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news...-t-b-joshuas-church.html#sthash.ED0dFtV5.dpbs

apparently 3 previous churches also collapsed, for various reasons. Someone is seriously testing this guy's faith.

 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
here some vid footage without claim captions plane seen at 11 30, 43 and 54 i think 1st ones at 30 minutes a chopper but very hard to tell

 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
http://www.nairaland.com/1910423/how-illuminati-collapsed-tb-joshua#26429967

Wow they spin a good legend.
 

Jason

Senior Member
Wow they spin a good legend.
It's funny how CT's vary depending on what region of the world they originate in. I wonder how the CT would've varied if this building collapsed in the US. It seems like religion is the overall driving force in that region, and possibly the lack of higher education and influx in poverty add to it as well.
 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
so im guessing these planes were on approach turning in to airport, what I can not find is landing maps or tracked radar of aircraft into to murtala muhammed airport either im looking wrong or the airport does not have tracking capacity
 

jaydeehess

Senior Member.
So they take a two storey structure and make it four times taller but the culprit in its collapse must be the fact that a plane few over it a few times.

:confused::rolleyes:

The collapse starts at the far end, as seen in the video, and progresses towards the near end. However the near end structure does fail very quickly and symmetrically instead of following the progression rate from far end to near end.

Seems to me most likely that the engineering to quadruple the height of the structure ( 64 times the mass) was not done properly, or if it was then it was not followed properly.
 

Larrydalooza

New Member
Having spent some time in construction, I can tell you that structures are typically not designed to handle side to side motion. If it was structurally strong laterally and gave way at one point, it would pull the whole structure laterally. It only takes a minor shift laterally for all the supports to fail if the supports were not solid from top to bottom. We can not tell from this vantage point if the structure was pulled to the right when some part on the right failed.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
Do y'all remember the supermarket it Estonia? (I think) that collapsed while they were building a garden on the roof?
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
Nope, never heard of it, sounds interesting.
 

KAT

Active Member
The same "let's make it from 2 sections" idea caused the skywalk collapse at the Hyatt Regency hotel in Kansas City in 1981.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse
 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
no mention of planes as collapse cause but he can take you on a holiday

T.B. Joshua invites families of collapse victims to spend holidays in Nigeria
The church says forty-four families coming to Lagos, Nigeria, had earlier accepted the offer and will fly out on Christmas day to return January 2, 2015

http://pulse.ng/religion/synagogue-...s-to-spend-holidays-in-nigeria-id3370836.html

ah but reading the articles side panes you can figure why he been so nice

http://pulse.ng/religion/pastor-t-b-joshua-cleric-excused-from-appearing-in-court-id3352408.html


Pastor T.B Joshua will no longer be ordered to court by the Lagos coroner, Magistrate O.A. Komolafe, probing the cause of the building collapse at the Synagogue Church Of All Nations.


as some facts have been found

Also testifying in court on Monday was the Deputy General Manager, Air Traffice Control of the Nigerian Airspace Management Agency, Mr. Rafiq Arogunjo, who revealed that the the “strange aircraft” hovering around the Ikotun area of Lagos on September 12 belonged to the Nigeria Air Force.

Arogunjo, in his testimony said the aircraft, with five crew members on board, was on training and that the aircraft did not fly directly over the collapsed building, but maintained the statutory 1000 feet flight distance in congested areas.

Mr. Rafiq Arogunjo told the Lagos State Coroner that the aircraft flew about six times in the area because of high traffic of in-coming aircrafts at the Murtala Mohammed International Airport, Lagos.
 

Oystein

Senior Member
The articles you link to are from pulse.ng, apparently a tabloid-type (online?) magazine, judging from their top news featuring big boobs, footbal and pop stars. If you search their site for the word "Synagogue", you'll find plenty of articles about that collapse and the ensuing investigation. It seems to me that they tend to be sympathetic towards that pastor, "prophet" Joshua.
A couple of snips that may be worth mentioning:

No Victim Died From Blast Injuries - Lagos State Pathologist - "The pathologist said the autopsy conducted on the bodies revealed that they died as a result of crush injuries also known as “traumatic rhabdomyolysis”"

Construction Of Guest House Was Illegal: "The Lagos State Commissioner for. Physical Planning and Urban Development, Toyin Ayinde ... said from the CCTV footage shown to him by the church, he noticed the building fell symmetrically."
 
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