1. igoddard

    igoddard Active Member

    TTSA just announced...

    https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/b...akes-groundbreaking-metamaterials-acquisition and http://archive.is/VxZtZ

    Huh, so... "The structure and composition of these materials are not from any known existing military or commercial application," and also, "We currently have multiple material samples being analyzed by contracted laboratories." So we know they are extraordinary materials and we're having them analyzed to see if they are.
     
  2. Mechanik

    Mechanik Member

    I like the “varying levels of chain-of-custody documentation”. Let me predict that this topic is never brought up again.
     
  3. igoddard

    igoddard Active Member

    Right! Lol. And despite promises, they never provided chain-of-custody documentation for the videos. The closest we got was the DD-1910 form Elizondo filed, but that was provided by the Las Vegas Now I-Team, not TTSA.

    John Greenewald noticed that the photo they used with this press release is a stock image of malachite. Like why on earth would you use a photo of something ordinary as a stand-in for something allegedly extraordinary? But TTSA may have posted a photo of the actual alleged extraordinary material...



    It's obviously not a material machined to be the surface of an aircraft. It's shape looks very irregular and random. It's probably an industrial waste byproduct as has been suggested before, see for example a link below that tweet.
    http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/a...-of-the-alien-metal-promoted-by-to-the-stars#
     
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  4. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    I think in one of the TTSA videos it was suggested that it had been in a crash. However the internal structure does not look like it's simply been bent. It looks like that's the way it was created.
    onstellar_875e7dec015036f74e2c37bb72e64b29. BismuthTopBottomQuarterByClewell.

    Reminds me very much of layers of paint, although much more regular.

    Metabunk 2019-07-30 07-47-40.

    I'm not sure about how the Betterton-Krohl Process explanation is supposed to work. The Betterton-Krohl Process
    https://www.britannica.com/technology/Betterton-Kroll-process
    Perhaps it might be during the seperation stage using chlorine? It would seem you'd need it in liquid or vapor form to get layers like that.
     
  5. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Sputter deposition has also been suggested. This is an interesting comment from Vikto Golubic:
    https://silvarecord.com/2019/01/26/metamaterials-not-from-earth/#comment-1035
    "Arts Parts" refers to a collection of objects that was supposedly anonymously sent to Art Bell.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010614020521/http://www.artbell.com/roscrash.html
    bild1-1.

    bild3-27.


    A sputtering target looks like:
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    Quite the coincidence! Although it's a bit a stretch to say this IS a sputtering target, as it just looks like a machined disc, with rather more irregular machining than the disks. I can find examples of machined disks in my office:
    Metabunk 2019-07-30 08-17-31.

    The "vent" material is very interesting:
    bild4-11.

    That's a much more specific look. Very similar to air-conditiong vents, but on a dollhouse scale.
     
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  6. qed

    qed Senior Member

    I am not quite understanding what the TTSA are claiming: ""The structure and composition of these materials are not from any known existing military or commercial application."

    Are they saying these materials were produced by some method currently unknown to humans?
    Where do they say they sourced them from?
     
  7. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    They are saying they have not figured out what they are.

    They sourced them from Art Bell, who got them from an anonymous source who send them to him in the 1990s.
     
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  8. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    the vents are going in different directions. almost like you're supposed to cut them out individually and use them for something else.
     
  9. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    It's possible it is a dollhouse accessory, a version of this, intended to be cut into individual registers
    61ZpQUKmDOL._SL1500_.
    Seems unlikely, but not impossible.

    I've looked through lots of "aluminum perforated sheet" type image results, not seen anything similar
    Metabunk 2019-07-31 09-45-22.
     
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  10. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    or maybe even the 'louvres' are meant to be individual parts? you know like those gold things you hammer into picture frames? Not those of course as those have nail teeth and bell's 'vents' look super shoddily made.

    I think retro kitchens had wall vents. but seems like too many louvres for the size.
     
  11. qed

    qed Senior Member

    Surely every object except for the layered-thing can clearly be manufactured with 90's tech? Ie., there is nothing mysterious about any of these objects except possible for the layered-thing?
     
  12. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Sure, but it seems more likely they were found objects than deliberately hoaxed objects. So finding out what mundane objects they actually are would settle it more conclusively than saying "someone could have made that"
     
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  13. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    From Reddit:

    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/ckaja9/sheet_of_tiny_vents_supposedly_ufo_related/evladsl/

    Some kind of thermal radiant barrier is interesting. There's some similar things if you look for "radiant barrier" in attics or greenhouses.
    Metabunk 2019-07-31 10-42-20.
     
  14. Clouds Givemethewillies

    Clouds Givemethewillies Active Member

    Not unlike a component part used for making miniature venetian-blind dynodes, used in photomultipliers.
     
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  15. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    they are the perfect size for 1/4 scale dollhouse shutters. (or maybe even cupola windows) but everything im seeing is wood.
     
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  16. igoddard

    igoddard Active Member

    Here's another photo TTSA posted, this to their facebook...

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    https://www.facebook.com/TTSAcademy/photos/a.1972178403050077/2371187703149143/
     
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  17. Clouds Givemethewillies

    Clouds Givemethewillies Active Member

    I missed out on dollhouses, but I had Bako. It ain't it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayko
    upload_2019-8-1_9-50-41.
     
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  18. itsthematrix

    itsthematrix New Member

    Interesting. I get a fossilized dinosaur eggshell vibe from it.
     
  19. Mick West

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  20. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    each vent is only like 3/8" or 1/4" long. (if they were bigger they would be super cute vents for birdhouses!)
     
  21. Mick West

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  22. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    they could possibly also be for salesmen's displays of some gizmo. I don't know if salesmen still use those types of things, but they used to have mini versions of whatever they were selling to carry around to companies.. or as point of purchase displays so the customer can see it small.
     
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  23. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    It's entirely possible it's something very obscure, used in fairly rare machines, like lab equipment or something. But given all the similar kinds of things, there nothing really to indicate it's of alien origin.
     
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