UK Geoengineering research public opinion

[David Fraser]

Recently the UK Government announced a 50 million grant to research geoengineering. This covers 5 main areas of which SAI is one. I will do further post on this when I get access to something other than my phone but it is safe to say the chemtrail crowd are up in arms. The public announcement is available here

https://www.aria.org.uk/opportunity...climate-and-weather/exploring-climate-cooling

It is worth a read and the experiment involving SAI does not actually releasing anything

Natural Materials for Stratospheric Aerosol Injection

Hugh Hunt, University of Cambridge

Award: £5.5m over 36 months
Team: University of Cambridge | Harvard University | Imperial College London

Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI) is a widely discussed potential climate cooling method, but the most commonly proposed materials (sulfates) carry significant hazards in this context, including potential ozone depletion and toxicity. Addressing whether safer, alternative materials could ever be feasible or effective for SAI is therefore a critical, unanswered scientific question. This project will undertake fundamental research to investigate the properties and behaviour of innovative, non-toxic, non-sulfate materials in a very controlled manner.

The research combines laboratory studies and computational modelling with unique and contained material exposure experiments. In these experiments, tiny (milligram) amounts of materials that occur in natural mineral dust (such as limestone, dolomite, or corundum) will be secured onto supports inside the gondolas of specially adapted weather balloons. These balloons are likely to be launched from sites in the USA and/or the UK; the specific site will be determined in line with ARIA's requirements for community engagement. The balloons will carry the samples into the stratosphere for exposure periods ranging from hours to weeks before performing controlled descent for recovery. Crucially, no materials will be released into the stratosphere; this approach effectively brings the stratosphere to the samples. Studying the recovered samples will reveal how stratospheric conditions affect their properties over time. This foundational science is essential to advance understanding of the potential impacts of SAI and for determining if less harmful alternatives to sulfates might exist (and if they might warrant further study in the context of SAI).

It is worth noting that this experiment is not scheduled until late 2027 after full impartial oversight and public participation.


Also in the mean time public participation has started with YouGov doing an interesting survey here
https://yougov.co.uk/health/article...pport-geoengineering-to-combat-climate-change

I will post a full breakdown as and when I get PC access as I find it difficult just using my phone. Sorry if it breaks the rules.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Hi, David.
They don't seem to know what is ahead of them. I've been watching how even adding some magnesium hydroxide to sewer outflow in the UK was shut down under protest,never-mind that the public flushes whatever they damn well please down the toilet including very bad stuff.

I watched Doug McMartin speak at Harvard and in Q&A someone asked about opposition. He said nobody knows about the issue. So either they are siloed or in denial that hundreds to millions of people are already primed to deny them anything at all. The fear is ramped up very tight and has grown into the ranks of public officials.
If they press onward that is very likely to precipitate an event, but I fully expect them to be denied consent, just putting it mildly, even that might be a riot.

 

[Mendel]

It's going to interesting whether they value their outrage more than their health; the latter should lead them to support the search for non-toxic aerosols fit for the purpose.

 

[Trailblazer]

It's going to interesting whether they value their outrage more than their health; the latter should lead them to support the search for non-toxic aerosols fit for the purpose.

I don't think that would help. The issue is with "spraying stuff" or even just "playing God". Even the concept of cloud seeding using electric charge (no spraying at all) gets opposition. (Often from people driving big smoky diesel trucks, of course)

 

[FatPhil]

I don't think that would help. The issue is with "spraying stuff" or even just "playing God". Even the concept of cloud seeding using electric charge (no spraying at all) gets opposition. (Often from people driving big smoky diesel trucks, of course)

If they're complaining about non-clear skies, then cloud seeding can't be a problem. Cloud seeding requires clouds. In which case the clouds are their problem, not the seeding thereof.

 

[Trailblazer]

If they're complaining about non-clear skies, then cloud seeding can't be a problem. Cloud seeding requires clouds. In which case the clouds are their problem, not the seeding thereof.

Most of the people who object to cloud seeding seem to think that cloud seeding means growing clouds, from seed.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Jim Lee has done a video about these experiments and some of the hub bub around them.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/live/gNvnNcP_VH4?si=Zmjx0Sadq4G4rdM4