Spielberg's "Disclosure Day" pre-release Speculation

[Onyx]

Should've probably included this at some point.

Source: https://x.com/TheCinesthetic/status/2059672942750134734/video/1?s=46

 

[FatPhil]

One problem—and it's a big one—with trying to describe what Satan and demons look like is that they are spirits. Spirits are, by definition, non-physical, and it is impossible to assign physical features to a non-physical entity. As spirit beings, demons do not have noses, eyes, hands, feet, tails, or anything else that we might look for in drafting a description.

]https://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-demons-look-like.html

This is of course all nonsense, it assumes everything that it states. What properties do you want your entirely-made-up entity to have? Some might want them to have eyes - many eyes. To assert they don't have eyes makes as much sense as asserting that they have many eyes. (Both make no sense, obviously.)

 

[snuffcurry]

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In that pic, it looks like a deer. Deer are variously described as looking cute, majestic, adorable, sweet, etc. The word "satanic" is seldom used as a descriptor of how deer look. So I suspect this is just click bait.

PS: How does one know what Satan looks like? There are traditional depictions, but what are they based on? The Bible does not describe a physical appearance for Satan -- it DOES speak of Satan appearing as an "angel of light," deceptively. This is a decent summary:

The closest the Bible comes to describing what Satan and the demons look like is in 2 Corinthians 11:14, "Satan disguises himself as an angel of light" (ESV). The surrounding verses refer to Satan's human servants disguising themselves as "apostles of Christ" and "servants of righteousness." In context, these descriptions refer to false teachers. But the principle surely applies to demons as well.

One problem—and it's a big one—with trying to describe what Satan and demons look like is that they are spirits. Spirits are, by definition, non-physical, and it is impossible to assign physical features to a non-physical entity. As spirit beings, demons do not have noses, eyes, hands, feet, tails, or anything else that we might look for in drafting a description. That's one reason the Bible never describes Satan's appearance. Even the "angel of light" description in 2 Corinthians 11:14 is not meant as a sketch of his appearance; rather, it means to emphasize his deceitful nature. The devil wants us to believe he is truth when in reality he is falsehood.

Should Satan decide to make a physical appearance—if he manifested himself to us visibly—he would do so in a deceptive manner. The common, pop culture portrayal of Satan as a scary, goat-like beast with horns is not found in the Bible. Prior to his rebellion against God, Satan was a beautiful, glorious being (see Ezekiel 28:12–15). What Satan "looks like" now is a mystery. Based on 2 Corinthians 11:14, though, we can know one thing for certain: Satan deceives people into thinking he is an angel of light. For Satan to reveal himself as the evil, murderous being that he is would be counterproductive. Most people would not follow the malicious maniac of conventional portrayals. Just as sin often looks attractive at first—only later revealing that it leads to death—so Satan would seek to deceive us by appearing as something other than evil.

]https://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-demons-look-like.html

So, something that looks to the viewer like a scary, horny-headed evil monster devil as is often portrayed, it does not look Satanic!


(CAVEAT -- As a Christian who does not believe in a literal-being Satan, I am speaking about what others believe. I may misunderstand their beliefs. But they claim they are basing their beliefs on Biblical literalism So the Bible does not speak a lot to Satan's appearance, but to the extent that it DOES it does not support the idea that he would appear in a manner that they seem to consider "Satanic," making any claim that "this looks Satanic" seem somewhat problematic.

Metabunk has been fairly good at recognizing how organized ufology as an industry seeking money and influence has, in the US, fluidly and ruthlessly transitioned from courting some of the more aging, liberal, crunchy legislators and their aides and lobbyists to younger, more overtly reactionary, nominally "anti-government" radical legislators, bureaucrats, lobbyists, influencers, donors, and aspiring private contractors, many sporting an outre radically apocalyptic flavor of "Christianity." Even the current VP knows the prevailing partyline: the aliens are "demons." I'd love to hear the city boy cosplaying as a hillbilly describe what he thinks the "orbs" are, and how to summon them. Should be enlightening... in understanding Peter Thiel's up to the minute thinking.

So I might expand past anodyne, here's what a website says summarizes biblical "deer" imagery and start thinking what masculinist Stag and Elk symbolism might look like to self-styled Christians who've never read even the Classics Illustrated equivalent of the New Testament but definitely saw 300 and know the Joe Rogan plagiarized cliffnotes aphorisms of hard men, or Sparta.

As an atheist, I don't necessarily take for granted what anyone believes, or claims to believe. I, too, have beliefs. That they are inconsistent makes me human. I don't take for granted Christians or self-styled "Christians" are also human. Modern history is replete with ideologues whose partisan goals betray their faith, when they're not altering the tenets of their faith to match the aspirations of their party, nor the conspiracies that drive the outrage.

If it's "just" clickbait, who is the audience? Is it expansive or lucrative? Just clickbait, but it somehow entered your orbit. If it influences public opinion, it's worthy of consideration and analysis. We live in a world shaped by all manner of and violence wrought by blood libel and incoherent end of days apocalyptic broadsheets and just-so stories.

You ask how does one know what Satan looks like? Living, breathing consensus decides, same with the mothman. They don't exist. It's not just okay but actually obligatory to treat and test and rail against bogeys as they confront us in the here and now, rather than retreat to comfortable appeals to logic the real world and real people do not abide by or, indeed, have ever heard of. Explaining Germ theory to 14th century Europeans wouldn't, would never, stop the pogroms and the sacrifices, sorry.

 

[Ann K]

This is of course all nonsense, it assumes everything that it states. What properties do you want your entirely-made-up entity to have? Some might want them to have eyes - many eyes. To assert they don't have eyes makes as much sense as asserting that they have many eyes. (Both make no sense, obviously.)

Please note, @JMartJr was quoting, and followed that with

CAVEAT -- As a Christian who does not believe in a literal-being Satan, I am speaking about what others believe.

It is indeed all nonsense, but on that subject it's not HIS nonsense.

 

[JMartJr]

It is indeed all nonsense, but on thar subject it's not HIS nonsense.

Teah, I have plenty of nonsense that I'll own up to, just not that one! ^_^

 

[NorCal Dave]

Thats because it literally is a deer, a buck specifically; which then transforms into an alien, via some clever camera work.

Presumably, all that alien advanced Intelligence includes a comprehensive list of the various hunting seasons and regulations pertinent to the locals where they employ Operation Bambi. Otherwise, that alien might look real good mounted to the wall behind a bar in some redneck's Mancave.

My personal experience of legally hunting for a buck is similar to alien hunting. I've heard talk of them, but they've always elluded me.

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

Do we know if Spielberg's new movie is really about space aliens or "interdimensional" something? A la "Vallée"?
That might explain the whole "spirit" / "satanic" vibe, if indeed it's intentional.

 

[JMartJr]

Do we know if Spielberg's new movie is really about space aliens or "interdimensional" something? A la "Vallée"?
That might explain the whole "spirit" / "satanic" vibe, if indeed it's intentional.

Note: he has done both in the past -- space aliens in CE3K and ET, and interdimensional flying saucer and grey-alien-type creature in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skul.

 

[jdog]

Note: he has done both in the past -- space aliens in CE3K and ET, and interdimensional flying saucer and grey-alien-type creature in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skul.

And don't neglect War of the Worlds, where long-buried alien spacecraft are activated/possessed by bolts of lightning-like energy, and even A.I., where the frozen artificial boy is eventually revived to complete his purpose by evolved robots / aliens.

The backstory to Spielberg's War of the Worlds isn't clear, but some interpret it as the aliens carrying out a long-term plan to harvest humanity. It's not clear what the lightning bolts are doing: Projecting devices into the Earth? Powering up long-buried ships and/or crews? Beaming crews into buried ships?

In any case, they seem hangry.

 

[Ann K]

Presumably, all that alien advanced Intelligence includes a comprehensive list of the various hunting seasons and regulations pertinent to the locals where they employ Operation Bambi. Otherwise, that alien might look real good mounted to the wall behind a bar in some redneck's Mancave.

My personal experience of legally hunting for a buck is similar to alien hunting. I've heard talk of them, but they've always elluded me.

I had never realized before, but my back yard appears to be populated by aliens! When listing their characteristics, add this to the list: aliens show an inordinate fondness of bird seed.

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

They're just throwing in every trope, cliche, urban legend, bit of folk lore, traditional imagery, pre-packaged conspiracy theory, and recycled Spielbergania they can think of to pad out this cranked out cash grab.

Maybe it will be a less indifferent product than Star Wars: The Mandalorian & Grogu...?

 

[Ann K]

They're just throwing every trope, cliche, urban legend, bit of folk lore, traditional imagery, pre-packaged conspiracy theory, and recycled Spielbergania they can think of to pad out this cranked out cash grab.

Maybe it will be a less indifferent product than Star Wars: The Mandalorian & Grogu...?

Remember, there are new generations of young consumers now who have probably never seen the older films. I saw the first Star Wars only after being urged to see it by my son, a teenager at the time, who had biked over to the nearby theater. Generally I found that if he recommended it, it wasn't something that interested me, but in that instance I wasn't disappointed.

 

[FatPhil]

It is indeed all nonsense, but on that subject it's not HIS nonsense.

Did I incorrectly quote? If I did wrong, what should I have done differently?

 

[JMartJr]

Did I incorrectly quote? If I did wrong, what should I have done differently?

FWIW, I was not offended or nuthin...

 

[Ann K]

Did I incorrectly quote? If I did wrong, what should I have done differently?

The impression was given that you were addressing him directly when you said "What properties do YOU want YOUR entirely-made-up entity to have?", when you were really addressing an unknown individual.

But, as @JMartJr says, "I was not offended or nuthin..."

 

[NoParty]

Dang! Not just you all, but even Polymarket is telling me there's no Santa!

https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens-exist-before-2027

 

[Onyx]

A hope I have for the movie is it doesn't use the trope of "the aliens are actually far-future humans".
So far, that doesn't appear to be the case, but I still worry regardless.

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

A hope I have for the movie is it doesn't use the trope of "the aliens are actually far-future humans".
So far, that doesn't appear to be the case, but I still worry regardless.

Yeah I find it to be the weirdest and stupidest theory ever.
I think I prefer the interdimensional demons over it tbh.

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

The YT comments sections for the trailers are kind of sad. Full of comments like "The timing is no coincidence" and "They're preparing us for the real Disclosure." Not an original thought that "Disclosure" is akin to the Second Coming or any religious equivalent.

Sad that these people have put so much into this commercial product. As always, nothing will happen. The movie will come and go. The prophecy will fail. I wonder how they will justify the failure...

 

[John J.]

Sad that these people have put so much into this commercial product.

Kind of agree. They seem to believe Steven Spielberg has proof of the existence of aliens visiting/ about to visit Earth, and that he's sharing what he knows through a film. Or is perhaps readying us for something similar happening in real life.
As opposed to Steven Spielberg actually just sharing what he (hypothetically, in the minds of "believers") knows.

The movie will come and go. The prophecy will fail. I wonder how they will justify the failure...

There are a few precedents from small religious groups/ cults etc. Perhaps many who are vocal about "this must mean something" aren't as invested as they appear to be. Just chasing likes, or enjoying the excitement, even gently trolling (promoting beliefs they don't hold, deriving some amusement from others believing them).
Some real believers might over time become disillusioned, or simply find other things to be interested in. Others will think that we are getting ever-closer to the big reveal, which is soon.

There's a 1956 book written by sociologists Featinger, Riechen and Schachter, When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group That Predicted the Destruction of the World,

...detailing a study of a small UFO religion in Chicago called the Seekers that believed in an imminent apocalypse. The authors took a particular interest in the members' coping mechanisms after the event did not occur

which was fairly well-known (but has been criticized itself more recently), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

They seem to believe that this isn't coming from Spielberg personally. He's been recruited by the government (or whatever powers that be) to prepare us. Ease us into it.

 

[MyMatesBrainwashed]

"They're preparing us for the real Disclosure."

They've been preparing me since ET.

Assuming Spielberg is the master preparer.

Not sure why we need to hate great whites though. No doubt it'll all become clear.

 

[JMartJr]

One wonders which alien/UFO movies are part of preparing us for disclosure, and which are just fun science fiction.

 

[John J.]

Not sure why we need to hate great whites though.

Spielberg has talked about his regret re. Jaws and the public perception of sharks.
Let's hope he never has cause to regret his influential portrayals of friendly, trustworthy aliens

 

[Jay Y]

…

Not sure why we need to hate great whites though. No doubt it'll all become clear.

The eyes.

 

[Ann K]

Spielberg has talked about his regret re. Jaws and the public perception of sharks.
Let's hope he never has cause to regret his influential portrayals of friendly, trustworthy aliens

I thought Jaws was great fun, a highly entertaining story told well. On the other hand, I don't live beside nor swim in the ocean, although I realize full well that sharks are real creatures as well as real predators. Was there really a strong reaction against sharks at the time of the movie?

Movies about extraterrestrial aliens, I just view as silly, but since there are people who believe they're here, I also view them as exploitive, preying on the fears of others. (I make exception for such things as Ewoks, of course! ) I have the same feeling about self-styled psychics and mediums, and deplore their exploitation of those who take them seriously.

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

The YT comments sections for the trailers are kind of sad. Full of comments like "The timing is no coincidence" and "They're preparing us for the real Disclosure." Not an original thought that "Disclosure" is akin to the Second Coming or any religious equivalent.

Sad that these people have put so much into this commercial product. As always, nothing will happen. The movie will come and go. The prophecy will fail. I wonder how they will justify the failure...

Easy, they will probably say that the film is a sort of "preparation" for the "real" disclosure which is always around the corner, but never really around any corner.

 

[jarlrmai]

The basic idea that Hollywood stuff is being used to prepare us for disclosure and that 'they' are being given real info to gradually get us used to aliens being real, rather than pop culture of UFOs being a 2 way street where UFO sightings are influenced by pop culture which then feeds back into pop culture has been around for a while now

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

Rotten Tomato Fresh reviews are coming in! It's Boffo...

Spielberg's Best Movie in Twenty Years
Disclosure Day is "a pulse-pounding sci-fi event" that "demands to be seen on the biggest screen possible." Packed with "jaw-dropping revelations," "haunting imagery," and "edge-of-your-seat suspense," the film proves there's still room for ambitious original genre storytelling in modern cinema.

Director Alex Vardon "crafts an atmosphere of paranoia so immersive you can practically feel it closing in around you," while the cast delivers "career-best work across the board." The screenplay asks big questions about truth, secrecy, and humanity's place in the universe, and it's not afraid to leave audiences talking long after the credits roll.

Yes, the plot occasionally disappears into its own mythology, but that hardly matters when the movie is this relentlessly entertaining. Every scene feels engineered for maximum impact: eerie broadcasts, cryptic warnings, dimly lit bunkers, and revelations timed precisely for trailer pull-quotes and opening-night reactions.

This is the kind of movie critics call "timely," audiences call "mind-blowing," and studios call "a franchise starter." Whether you're a hardcore UFO obsessive or just looking for a slick, high-concept thrill ride, Disclosure Day is "the must-see conspiracy thriller of the year."


Another:

A Satisfying Roller Coaster Ride
Disclosure Day is the kind of paranoia thriller that survives almost entirely on atmosphere, conspiracy aesthetics, and one genuinely unnerving central idea. The script wanders, the exposition dumps pile up in the second act, and at least two supporting performances feel pulled from an entirely different movie, but somehow it still works more often than it should.

What keeps it afloat is confidence. The film understands exactly what audience it's courting: people who want ominous government briefings, glitchy VHS inserts, hushed references to "the event," and characters staring at classified documents under fluorescent lights while synth drones rumble in the background. Every other line sounds engineered for the trailer, but that almost becomes part of the charm.

There's also a surprisingly effective sense of escalation. Even when the plot starts collapsing under its own mythology, the movie keeps introducing just enough new imagery and implication to maintain momentum. By the final twenty minutes, logic is mostly out the window, replaced by pure late-night History Channel energy.

Not remotely subtle. Not especially disciplined. But if you have a tolerance for conspiracy fiction that takes itself extremely seriously, Disclosure Day delivers exactly the flavor it promises. "Ambitious," "unsettling," and "weirdly watchable" are probably the three words that will follow it around online.






Full Disclosure

I prompted GPT to write the first one as a typical "quote whoring" review. Superficial. No real analysis. I even left in the quotation marks around the quotes he's whoring.

The second one is a typical binary Rotten Tomatoes "Fresh" review that was written by a guy who really didn't like the movie but puts in enough faint praise to avoid studio retaliation. He generally recommends the movie... to a specific audience who likes that kind of thing.

They would both count toward the 86% Fresh status and a glowing red tomato. Which is about what I expect it will get.

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

I'll wait for the Red Letter Media and The Critical Drinker reviews for some honesty.

I doubt we'll ever get a Ghostbusters 2017 style Mr. Plinkett review. What I expect is a guarded pro and con shoulder shrug kind of thing from Red Letter Media.

The Critical Drinker I expect will be a bit more harsh, criticizing the lack of originality, but admitting it might have moments.

I expect the movie won't be in any way horrible. Not Ghostbusters 2107 awful. Just lacking in originality or depth. And in the end... kind of meh. Cranked out, in other words.

There will be over the top Ufologist and/or Spielberg fans. There will be harsh critics... and mostly "I kind of like it... I guess" reactions. It will make decent money... and ten years from now it will be one of those, "Oh yeah, I remember that" kind of things.

 

[Mendel]

I submit that "engineered for the trailer" really means "clippable for social media".

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

I'm seeing comments that have a twist. Spielberg is being used as a brainwashed Dupe. The Powers That Be are planning a fake Disclosure, and the movie is a sign that the fake Disclosure is eminent.

Spielberg's movie will be used to ease us into the Fake Disclosure, you see.

This comment isn't from a Disclosure Day trailer, but from a Steven Greer YT short, and it lays out the scenario. Greer seems to be the main guy behind this idea.

They're (Military industrial complex) going to stage this mock "invasion" by the "dangerous aliens" using very convincing holograms and other tech, creating a "threat" and creating fear and panic... then turn around in the same crooked breath and present a solution to the problem... put a base on the moon and arm the base and any of the sattelites with nuclear weapons. Honestly... Don't fall for any of that ..Dr. Greer had been warning us about that very scenario for 30+ years

Source: https://youtube.com/shorts/pDkgm6C0RFw?si=ndFkNdHSs-e_hfFu






I wasn't at all familiar with the Greer wheels within wheels CT thing.

https://exopolitics.org/are-secret-...e-flag-alien-invasion/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

...the final stage of planning for a false flag event that dates back to the 1950s is about to be rolled out...

It seems that Greer's theory is: A secret faction within the military-industrial complex intends to fake an extraterrestrial threat using advanced human technology in order to increase militarization and political control, while concealing what he believes is the fundamentally peaceful nature of actual extraterrestrial visitors. ... I guess

Spoiler: Summary generated by YT

Mission of the Disclosure Project: Dr. Greer emphasizes his 33-year volunteer effort to reveal classified information regarding extraterrestrial intelligence and advanced technologies (0:00 - 4:46). He advocates for transparency to address global energy and environmental problems, claiming these technologies have been suppressed for nearly a century (32:13 - 33:27).

Dr. Steven Greer posits a theory regarding a "false flag" alien invasion, suggesting that a rogue military-industrial complex intends to orchestrate a deceptive event to manipulate global perception. According to Greer, this agenda involves several key components:

The speaker argues that covert groups intend to launch a "false flag" operation to create the appearance of a hostile extraterrestrial threat, which they would use to justify military expansion and consolidate power under a unified command, starting at 33:30 and continuing through the discussion of the dangers of these operations (33:30 - 34:00).

• Manufactured Hostility: The primary objective of this theory is to create a fake, hostile extraterrestrial threat. By portraying aliens as aggressive, these covert organizations aim to justify massive military-industrial expansion and secure global control under a unified military command.
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• Human-Made Craft (ARVs): Greer asserts that these groups possess advanced, man-made anti-gravity craft—often referred to as Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs)—which are capable of mimicking the flight patterns of genuine UFOs to stage convincing "attacks" (13:34 - 13:53; 19:50 - 20:10).
  
  
  
  
• Holographic Technology: He has claimed that advanced projection systems exist, capable of creating highly realistic, three-dimensional holographic images of UFOs or extraterrestrial entities that appear solid to observers.
  
  
• The "Von Braun" Warning: Greer frequently references a warning allegedly given by Wernher von Braun to his assistant, Carol Rosen. According to this account, von Braun cautioned that a sequence of false-flag threats would culminate in a fake alien invasion as the final excuse to militarize space and cement global governance.
  
  
• Benevolent Reality: Central to Greer's mission is the assertion that real extraterrestrial visitors are inherently peaceful. He argues that any perceived threat or abduction phenomenon is not a reflection of genuine alien intent, but rather a staged, artificial operation designed to keep the public in a state of fear (22:47 - 23:25; 24:02 - 24:14).

Greer contends that these operations have been carried out by clandestine groups operating outside of constitutional oversight since themid-20th century, effectively gaslighting government officials and the public to maintain secrecy surrounding advanced propulsion and energy technologies.

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

Greer's "theory" immediately made me think of an old story in Analog. It just took me some time to track down the title and author.

Spoiler: Real Spoiler Alert - If you think you might read this story some day. Heh.

A political satire. Earth and some Aliens engage in a mutual, staged invasion to impose unpopular reforms to improve their respective homeworlds. Earthlings supposedly invaded the Alien homeworld and the Aliens supposedly invaded and conquered Earth. They use their powers as conquerors to force everyone, on both planets, to get along and build mass transit and so forth. A human rebel discovers that the supposed Alien oppression is actually a benevolent system improving humanity's quality of life. His insurrection wasn't going too well anyway, because everyone seemed to have adapted pretty well to the way things were going under their Alien Overlords. Everyone talks about the way they "hate" the Aliens, but no one does anything about it.

It also features a blue Alien Woman who reshapes her structure into that of a voluptuous knock out human woman. Yeah!

At one point in the story she says, to the hero of the story... "Show me again your Earth biological functions."

Nah, I made that part up. But she really did reshape herself. They can do that.

A copy of this magazine is on my shelf BTW. I bought it, used, in a tiny old store in downtown Santa Ana called The Little Shop, run by a charming little old lady. Somewhere around 1973.

Now I've got to get it down off my shelf for a re-read; a few measly decades later. What? Five decades? Couldn't be.

 

[flarkey]

Greer's "theory" immediately made me think of an old story in Analog. It just took me some time to track down the title and author.

Isn't it the same storyline as Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace ... ?

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

Isn't it the same storyline as Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace ... ?

I saw that dumb movie once... in 1999. The only things I remember: Looking at my watch. A leaden cloak of boredom descending upon me. A ghastly sense of disappointment.

What's the similarity?

 

[flarkey]

I saw the dumb movie once... in 1999. The only things I remember: Looking at my watch. A leaden cloak of boredom descending on me. A horrible sense of disappointment.

What's the similarity?

The Leader of the Senate (Palpatine) creates a narrative that an enemy (The Trade Federation and Separatists) are banding together so he creates a Clone Army (See Episode 2 Attack of the Clones) to fight them which leads to the creation of The Empire.

 

[John J.]

It seems that Greer's theory is: A secret faction within the military-industrial complex intends to fake an extraterrestrial threat using advanced human technology in order to increase militarization and political control...

Isn't it the same storyline as Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace ... ?

The Sirens of Titan, Kurt Vonnegut, 1959. Winston Niles Rumfoord, the richest man in America secretly recruits a large (human) army, which trains in secret on Mars for an invasion of Earth.
Though equipped with large numbers of flying saucer-style spacecraft, the Martian army is mainly equipped with surplus WW2 smallarms.
As the invasion fleet travels to Earth, it constantly broadcasts threats and demands for surrender.
The invasion does not go well for the Martian fleet, particularly after it is met with several thousand nuclear missiles.
Survivors reaching Earth are greeted with universal hostility and suffer ignominious defeat.
This was what Rumfoord intended; the subsequent global unity was his goal all along.
(It's actually quite a fun story, with much else occuring; Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sirens_of_Titan).

A base on the Moon to protect the Earth from UFO attacks was a major plot element in the 1970-71 British TV series UFO.
Even back then, the wisdom of basing Earth's interceptor force so far away on the orbiting but non-manoeuvrable Moon was questionable.
But it memorably featured Gabrielle Drake as Lt. Gay Ellis, so I was prepared to suspend disbelief and watch when the series was re-run... Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_(British_TV_series)

 

[jumbobob]

Not sure I follow Greers claims, "Greys" are government created robots to stage a fake NHI earth invasion in order for the government to increase further military spending. So the government military spending is going to go from $900B to $1.3T? $2T? Makes no sense, the government can just pull the trigger anytime to spend that kind of money.

And isn't he kind of slapping all his whistleblowers (with their experiences and sightings) in the face with this claim.

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

Not sure I follow Greers claims,

His theory is incoherent. For one thing he claims this has been going on for 70 years... but nothing really happens... The supposed good Aliens have never stepped in to stop this. So what's so good about them?

They've never responded to Greer's CE-5 project. Greer and many of his followers have been in telepathic contact with the good Aliens, and they've even shown themselves... but they continue to remain mysteriously aloof. But Greer keeps on trying. (Sounds a lot like praying to the Gods?)

But for the purposes of this thread it's enough to know that there's an alternate reaction to the movie.

Greer talks about the movie...

Greer: So, we're planning to do an event in Washington, perhaps with some of the new whistleblowers. Put that on your calendars if you can come to that. We haven't worked it out yet. We're still planning. I just had the concept to do it this past weekend, but that'll be great, and it'll be a lot of fun.

It's going to be important to do that because [the] next month [June] is that horrible Steven Spielberg movie called Disclosure. Unfortunately, I never trademarked the term "disclosure," and it's been ripped off by every horrible con artist and charlatan out there.

From the trailer, the movie Steven Spielberg is releasing looks like a horror flick. Now, I don't know, maybe it isn't. Maybe they're just doing that to grab attention, but I have not seen it. But if it looks like what it sounds like, it's going to be something that will again put this whole alien thing in a very frightening, terrifying context.

That's something we're going to have a battle to clarify. So this May 9th event in Washington will help set the stage for what the truth is, because that movie is probably going to have hundreds of millions of people see it. The Spielberg movie; they'll spend fifty or a hundred million dollars advertising it.

So we're just our little operation. Again, we have these big behemoth media, military-industrial, CIA, and Hollywood people all moving very quickly to hijack the disclosure message into this frightening alien War of the Worlds nonsense.

We have our work cut out for us, all of us, to guide humanity over that chaos into a time of universal peace. Not just world peace, but interplanetary peace. The foundation of that is universal consciousness and our awareness, which is why the CE-5 contact concept is so critical.

Raven: Exactly. I mean, that is unique to this whole subject matter. Everybody can go do their disclosure stuff, and we can stick to CE-5, right? [Greer's project to telepathically contact the good Aliens]

As ever, there's the Hatfields and McCoys thing going on among Ufologists.


"Disclosure Day is preparing us for the real Disclosure. Hurray!"

"No, you deluded fool. Disclosure Day is preparing us for the False Flag Disclosure that Dr. Steven Greer has been warning us about."


Greer

I never trademarked the term "disclosure," and it's been ripped off by every horrible con artist and charlatan out there.

Meaning rival UFOlogists


https://www.metabunk.org/threads/ja...-technology-the-egg.13949/page-15#post-338011

The bitter infighting between the various UFO Galileos.

In Robert Sheaffer's book - The UFO Verdict, copyright 1980 - there's a chapter called The UFO Movement: Galileos, Hatfields, and McCoys that briefly touches on the feuds of the 1960's and 70's. The problem with the Galileo Gambit is that there should only be one Galileo at a time. When you've got 20 guys, all claiming to be Galileo... hijinks ensue.

UFOlogy is an LP record with a closed circular groove that starts the music over on every spin. It just keeps going 'round and 'round.

 

[Fritzkquzerk]

His theory is incoherent. For one thing he claims this has been going on for 70 years... but nothing really happens...

But for the purposes of this thread it's enough to know that there's an alternate reaction to the movie.

Greer talks about the movie...



As ever, there's the Hatfields and McCoys thing going on among Ufologists.


"Disclosure Day is preparing us for the real Disclosure. Hurray!"

"No, you deluded fool. Disclosure Day is preparing us for the False Flag Disclosure that Dr. Steven Greer has been warning us about."


Greer

Meaning rival UFOlogists


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Project Blue Balls, after waiting for 70 years