I hope he does get fired.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE
Can someone explain this. I doubt the shooting was staged, but I do think the media gets actors like this. Also was watching Anderson Cooper today and they were just bashing a prof who said that actors were hired to cry and stuff for this shooting. Feel bad for the prof now since he will probably lose his job and get tons of hate for no good reason.
I only brought that acting part up because a prof in Florida got bashed on CNN and will probably lose his job because he mentioned actors crying for newtown shooting in his blog. First of all it's completely absurd and second of all not something the most watched news show should even be going against him because it probably is true. Even if he is wrong that just means it's not newsworthy and shouldn't even take up air time. If he is right, then yes, discuss it. Expose the liars.
They're vehemently denying that any actors were hired. I understand the prof shouldn't have posted his theory about mourning parents being actors (without evidence), but the show CNN pulled off denying it raised suspicions in me. They essentially said for 20 minutes that it's unacceptable to ask questions.
Interesting about Tracy. I've been writing comments to his blog, but mine always go down the "memory hole". That's actually what he calls his blog.
Since Sandy Hook blew up in his face, he probably doesn't want his chemtrails hoax work looked at too closely. I actually tried to help him, but can now see who he really is. A gutless hypocrite. It really must suck to be him right now, not to give him an ounce of sympathy.
However, is he any different from the others who go out there with the same questions that he has about the whole thing? He does teach a course called Culture of Conspiracy, so I don't see it as harmless or wrong to bring Sandy Hook into it; especially, when you see how the gun-related articles spun out of control since day one of the shooting. I forgot what article it was, but he didn't lose his job that people wanted him to do so.
I hope he does get fired.
In his position unless he has evidendce he should not comment . The college he teaches at had to separate themselves from his comments . Maybe we dont need any more colleges if everything on You Tube is factual ? get reaL. Let them rest in peace .Exactly what I'm talking about.
This person wants the professor to lose his job, his livelihood, for questioning the mainstream media. His crime was not believing and not being quiet about his doubts, and according to the poster above he must suffer for this.
These 'plebes' are so effectively molded since birth to be steered and told what to think by the television, they HATE HATE HATE people who question MSM or the government.
They really believe we all should just trust the 'authorities' to decide what's best for us, let the 'authorities' decide for us what's true and what isn't.
I ask you who is more despicable and who is more worthy of respect? The one who questions his prescribed reality or the one who follows blindly and condemns those who refuse to swallow. I can answer that clearly.
I ask you who is more despicable and who is more worthy of respect? The one who questions his prescribed reality or the one who follows blindly and condemns those who refuse to swallow
What about people who would lead those who question down false paths with unsubstantiated but authoritative sounding claims?
What about people whose unfounded accusations serve to marginalize legitimate oppostion to corrupt practices?
How should we feel about those people?
Do you think Alex Jones was a good advocate for gun rights in his appearance on Piers Morgan's show? I don't. I think he made 2nd Amendment advocates look crazy. That makes me angry since I advocate for gun rights.
If I had a professor that was behaving like Alex Jones I'd want him fired. He can go get a radio show or do youtube videos. He doesn't have any business using his position to spout unsubstantiated nonsense.
If I had a professor that was behaving like Alex Jones I'd want him fired. He can go get a radio show or do youtube videos. He doesn't have any business using his position to spout unsubstantiated nonsense.
In my opinion he could (and should) be terminated for his public words and actions.
...As a federal employee, i understood i represented my employer 24/7. I can be terminated for what i say and do off the job. Many employers maintain similar standards...
In my opinion he could (and should) be terminated for his public words and actions.
In my opinion he could (and should) be terminated for his public words and actions.
In my opinion he could (and should) be terminated for his public words and actions.
SO you believe it's correct to fire someone for having an opinion that goes against the mainstream media, even though the official reports are riddled with holes, inconsistencies and outright mistakes. I mean the story was changing constantly and many details were hardly investigated even to this day. Have you seen even ONE body? Have you seen ANY footage of a shooter ? OR... did you believe everything CBS told you? YES YOU DID.
And you'd like to strip this man of his livelihood while you enjoy your government job. I hear you government employees are not too popular these days so it's fitting that you would be quick to throw him to the wolves for questioning the MSM while the government coddles you with tax payer money. You sir cannot be objective simply because of what you are, even if you could see the steamy bullshit surrounding sandy hook you couldn't openly say anything, but you're entirely free and encouraged to support the mainstream version because that supports Obama's gun confiscation agenda.
Can your position even be considered valid? No it can't because as you admit in your own post, you're a government employee and cannot speak against your political masters without repercussions.
You cannot, by nature of what you are look objectively at sandy hook, and even if you did see the glaring anomalies surrounding the event you'd need to keep quiet. SO any posts you make concerning this event can be dismissed as biased, bought and sold. You cannot express truth even if you know it.
ANd from what I've seen of you so far you're quick to condemn those who dare to question so I wouldn't expect a shred of open mindedness from you. We have a word for it , it's called shill.
I believe a person could (and should) be fired if they bring disrepute to the image of their employer in a public way. Most large employers maintain such a condition of employment. If you want to be Miss America you shouldn't be in porno flicks, if you work for Kentucky Fried Chicken you probably shouldn't go public and denounce the colonel while endorsing another fried chicken brand, if you want to be a cop you probably shouldn't be arrested for dealing crack cocaine, if you want to work for Coke you probably shouldn't drive a Pepsi truck as a second job. You get the point. In the case of this professor, it's not about how his opinion squares with mainstream anything, it has to do with how his opinion reflects upon his employer. If this guy wants to talk his talk he should do it anonymously. If he chooses talk his talk using his job title he is subject to the rules of his employer. If he doesn't wish to be bound by the rules of his employer he should quit. See how much attention he gets when he can no longer borrow the clout of major university.
Is this censorship? He's not talking against his boss, he's not promoting another university, he's expresing his opinion on a public issue. In the "Land of the Free" you cannot do that? The USA is becoming more and more a Third World Country (where censorship is the rule). Are some of you afraid that an Academic (a person whose opinion weights), speaks his mind just because he thinks different than some of you? There is a saying: "you have the right to be stupid", maybe the professor is one of them, but we cannot deny that there are hundreds of Congress people who are stupid, but they don't get fired.
It's quite common for a condition of employment to not make statements that put your employer in a bad light. That's not censorship, it's a condition of employment, which you agree to. He's free to say whatever he likes, but if he's agreed not to, then that's breach of contract.
A less offensive example would be revealing trade secrets. One could theoretically argue that free speech rights means you should be able to tell out your employer's secrets to the world without recrimination. But obviously you would not expect that. The disparaging restriction is similar. It is though one that is on the edge of the law, and legally quite difficult to use as a cause fire someone for. See:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/02/21/can-you-fire-someone-for-disparaging-your-company-on-facebook/
Bringing disrepute to the image of an employer is something even less clear in law. But if it's part of an employment agreement, or a code of conduct, then it does not seem unreasonable.
None of the examples you give applies to this professor.
"Statements that put your employer in a bad light"... that's too broad. Is it in his contract that he cannot express a different opinion to ANY public statements made by the police, Congress, President, etc? If that is what America has come down to I'm speachless, not by censorship, but by surprise. Maybe if he would have cursed God instead the University would've give him a medal. That is surely a "good light" for the university.
So anything the employers consider that is putting them in "bad light" is enough to fire anyone. That's censorship disguised as "bad light" or "proper conduct". What if he says he smokes cigars, or likes beer, or that he has moral principles that differ from that of his employer? You're fired!, because those have become NO-NOs in the american society of today. To me it's censorship, they can fire him because he THINKS different. Maybe the professor is after all shinning a "good light" with his opinion. Too bad universities despise a good debate nowadays.
It's not what the employer considers that important, it's how the statements would be received. it would have to stand up in court, so would have to be something that a reasonable person wold agree reflects badly on the employer.
It's all a bit of a moot point though as he has not been fired. He claims he's being investigated though.
http://upressonline.com/2013/01/fau...james-tracy-leaving-him-unsure-of-job-status/
It not like this is the only stupid or hurtful things he's said though.
Tomi Glover
January 19, 2013 at 5:27 am
My horse coughs for no reason, I havent been able to have my garden prduce food like I used to , all the flowers I plant die before they finish blooming and I never get seeds anymore. 4 out of 10 shrub oat are dead in the local mountains. Bees and hummingbirds are gone. I cry everyday when I see the huge white X lines in the sky. I call the local airforce base and demand to know why they arent protecting our skys, I call them traitors everyone of them, why do we even have an airforce if anyone can do anything anyway. They just talk to me like Im stupid and last time even ask me if Id like to come visit the new visiting center, Edwards airforce base, yeah, that was the answer I got when I ask a pilot who was dropping poison and where the planes are coming from. It took me two yours to stop shaking and crying after talking to him. I used to have so much respect for our airforce, now I hate them all, not one of them doesnt know whats going on, and every one of them are traitors to the United States of America. They have turned there backs on us and I feel as if my heart will break from the saddness of that. The poisioning of every living breathing creature on earth and earth herself, our beautiful blue planet
http://memoryholeblog.com/2012/12/1...he-worst-crime-in-human-history/#comment-4494
It's not what the employer considers that important, it's how the statements would be received. it would have to stand up in court, so would have to be something that a reasonable person wold agree reflects badly on the employer.
It's all a bit of a moot point though as he has not been fired. He claims he's being investigated though.
http://upressonline.com/2013/01/fau...james-tracy-leaving-him-unsure-of-job-status/
It not like this is the only stupid or hurtful things he's said though.
Received by whom? Who is the final judge as to how was it received? A poll? A newspaper editorial (we know the outcome already)?
What would he be accused of that it would have to stand in court?
If he's wrong (which he is) then it's possibly libel and slander, possibly even internet bullying. It's certainly outrageous and unusual behavior for a college professor. I'd prefer if he did not get the oxygen of publicity, but I think it's as newsworthy as 90% of the "news" out there.
Then you obviously have never been around too many college professors....
I agree, but not just for this, his chemtrails articles and behavior as reported by his students show me that James F. Tracy is dishonest and uncaring about what he says and does both at work and in public statements.
He was hired as a professor to teach COMMUNICATIONS.
He is not proficient at providing accurate communications, how can he teach it?
BTW, James F. Tracy has moved on to pushing yet another high school shooting CT:
http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/16/taft-union-high-school-drill-becomes-real-life/#more-1764
In turn, faculty and students must exercise this freedom in a responsible manner so that honesty and integrity in their inquiries and discourse are maintained.
Like I said, you can always find someone to go along with any theory. James Tracey is just some guy who believes in lots of conspiracy theories. He's really no different than the commenters on Facebook.
It's the facts that are important, not if you can find one professor out of a million who has a strange theory.
Exactly, Mick .... and I am niot best pleased to revisit after your total lack of facts on chemtrails
only to read you dare to come up with "It's the facts that are important"
I agree with you completely.... but your problem is like any shill who's paid
$quillion$ to type an effing-phony phaked website, you wouldn't know
an honest fact if you tripped over it as you fall on your phat phace