Dutchsinse HAARP FOI request

cloudspotter

Senior Member.
Dutch has had a response to his FOI request for material on HAARP and he's very excited about it


He could of course have saved the bother (and the wasted paper) and looked up the information online

For example:

The WIND-HAARP Experiment

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/98GL00037/pdf

or

Electromagnetic Spectrum Occupancy Study of a Potential Transmitter Site for the HF Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP)

Which is available from Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electromagnetic-Spectrum-Occupancy-Potential-Transmitter/dp/B00GNNEC4S

or from here

http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA288909


The video has already been posted several times on the CGS FB page with one poster commenting

 
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solrey

Senior Member.
Huh? The mere existence of HAARP now is some kind of win?

Was that ever even put into question?

Dutchsinse claims that radio waves can ionize the neutral atmosphere, like those transmitted by the IRI instrument at the HAARP facility or weather radar (which transmit on completely different frequency bands, btw). He's gloating because he thinks the material he received confirms his "theories", but what he's really doing is mis-interpreting the science in a way that he can cram it into his confirmation biased paradigm, mashing square pegs into round holes as it were. The description he wrote for the vid is a word salad of nonsense...

WSR-88D weather radar transmits/receives in the range of 2.7-3.0 Ghz, not 2.4 Ghz... on average there are over 1,250 tornadoes per year in the US but dutchsinse claims that the one or two that happen to come within a few miles of a radar station is proof that radar is "drawing in the weather". Between WSR-88D and TDWR, there are over 200 weather radar stations across the US so practically every storm occurs within range of a radar station somewhere, but only a small percent actually pass directly over a radar station. Dutchsinse seems to think that one lucky guess out of 100 "predictions" is somehow proof that he's onto something. :confused:
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
Dutch has had a response to his FOI request for material on HAARP and he's very excited about it


I don't suppose the fact that its no longer operational matters to him....

http://www.npr.org/2014/06/10/319539712/bye-bye-to-the-home-of-a-favorite-internet-conspiracy-theory
 

solrey

Senior Member.
I don't suppose the fact that its no longer operational matters to him....

Nah, he just moves the goalpost and makes it up as he goes along...

Maybe someone should tell him about the 'cone of silence'.

 

scombrid

Senior Member.
I wish they would call it a cone of blindness. I.e. no radar reflection is seen as opposed to "echo is heard". That might reduce confusion among those conspiracy believers that think that emf and sound frequency are interchangeable.
 

ssfor27

Active Member
Dutchsinse claims that radio waves can ionize the neutral atmosphere, like those transmitted by the IRI instrument at the HAARP facility or weather radar (which transmit on completely different frequency bands, btw). He's gloating because he thinks the material he received confirms his "theories", but what he's really doing is mis-interpreting the science in a way that he can cram it into his confirmation biased paradigm, mashing square pegs into round holes as it were. The description he wrote for the vid is a word salad of nonsense...

WSR-88D weather radar transmits/receives in the range of 2.7-3.0 Ghz, not 2.4 Ghz... on average there are over 1,250 tornadoes per year in the US but dutchsinse claims that the one or two that happen to come within a few miles of a radar station is proof that radar is "drawing in the weather". Between WSR-88D and TDWR, there are over 200 weather radar stations across the US so practically every storm occurs within range of a radar station somewhere, but only a small percent actually pass directly over a radar station. Dutchsinse seems to think that one lucky guess out of 100 "predictions" is somehow proof that he's onto something. :confused:

My mind hurts after reading his explanation which you quoted above. Such folly Dutch. But I guess it sounds good?

This "finding" would explain the past 2 days of glee and vindication on his Facebook page. I almost feel sorry for him.

He knows the WSR-88D operates between 2.7-3.0 Ghz, with each site having a specific and unchanging operating frequency in that range. I could probably go back and find several of his posts where he seems to acknowledge this. But, for purposes of this video, now it's 2.4 Ghz. Whatever is needed to make it work, right Dutch?
 
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