Drones over New Jersey?

[Mendel]

Can you clarify whether or to what extent this includes military/government aircraft? I'm assuming GA in the discussion refers to "general aviation," but I want to be sure I understand your point before possibly explaining it to somebody else out there on the Internets... and it had been my understanding, possibly erroneously, that military aircraft might be an exception to this sort of requirement.

I'm fairly certain all military aircraft have ADS-B equipped (except maybe some older models?).

There are situations when it can be turned off; this also applies to GA.
However, for a GA pilot to turn it off reduces the safety of their flight.

Article:

General Aviation (GA) is defined by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) as "all civil aviation operations other than scheduled air services and non-scheduled air transport operations for remuneration or hire". The category also is sometimes called general aviation and aerial work (GA/AW).

Source: https://skybrary.aero/articles/general-aviation-ga

Military aircraft would not be FAA-required to send ADS-B out in military-controlled airspace. The requirement also does not apply at very high altitudes (think spy plane). When formation flying in FAA-controlled airspace, typically only the formation leader would send ADS-B out.

If you want to find out which aircraft typically fly without ADS-B, and where, you're probably better off asking in a flight tracking community.

I only know that between 60% and 80% of GA aircraft have ADS-B equipment, and I would expect that to cover well over 90% of all trips made and miles flown.

 

[jackfrostvc]

Zipline designs which manufactures and operates the world's largest drone delivery service according to them.
Just tweeted the other day about Zipline's first New Jersey testing facility. They mention they have been scaling since they opened 60 days ago
Pretty advanced looking drones, ~ a cross between a multirotor copter and a winged drone.
They seem to lower a container down by a wire to release a parcel.
I wonder if these are responsible for some sightings in NJ

www.x.com/KellerRinaudo/status/1877551663604498613
www.x.com/KellerRinaudo
https://www.flyzipline.com/

 

[JMartJr]

I wonder if these are responsible for some sightings in NJ

Interesting, and possibly -- it looks enough like a plane that possibly some "plane" pics might be one of these, though most of the ones I recall seeing were more definitely just planes than this drone is. However...

White.
Oblong.
Four little projections from the bottom.

How long before somebody takes a picture of it and claims they saw a Tic Tac?

 

[MonkeeSage]

www.x.com/KellerRinaudo/status/1877551663604498613

Interesting video! If I saw one of those flying around I would definitely wonder what kind of drone it was. Though they do actually look and move like drones (1:45) as opposed to all the pics and videos I have seen of alleged drones.

 

[Kyle Ferriter]

Zipline designs which manufactures and operates the world's largest drone delivery service according to them.
Just tweeted the other day about Zipline's first New Jersey testing facility. They mention they have been scaling since they opened 60 days ago

I've been working my way through my YouTube watchlist and some extensive video back catalogues of some channels I like and completely by coincidence I watched these two videos earlier today on Zipline drones. A bit of synchronicity. It does seem like a cool and useful drone development to particularly help places where on demand delivery of time sensitive packages like blood bags or medicines to rural hospitals is faster by drone than by car. I wonder how the price of delivery by these drones would compare to car based delivery in places where the roads produce faster car based delivery times. Cars can also carry much more weight. But the thing about blood in particular is that it has a short shelf life and rural hospitals can't afford to keep large supplies on hand because in normal conditions a lot of it will expire unused.

Wendover Productions:

Source: https://youtu.be/bnoUBfLxZz0?si=eUunFuQrZkO9VHr9


Real Engineering:

Source: https://youtu.be/jEbRVNxL44c?si=SiRDx3XwlnlxksdM

Interesting video! If I saw one of those flying around I would definitely wonder what kind of drone it was. Though they do actually look and move like drones (1:45) as opposed to all the pics and videos I have seen of alleged drones.

I agree that I don't think the testing of these is likely to explain much of the alleged sightings, almost all of which seems to be to be misidentifications of conventional manned aircraft and celestial objects. There have been a small handful of nighttime videos that look like potential *copter drones.

 

[Eburacum]

Interesting video! If I saw one of those flying around I would definitely wonder what kind of drone it was. Though they do actually look and move like drones (1:45) as opposed to all the pics and videos I have seen of alleged drones.

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[flarkey]

I've seen this video shared a few times recently on Twitter showing 3 large "drones" over New Jersey. Looks kinda like 3 x C-130s to me.


Source: https://x.com/EzeemmaCraic/status/1878605846298738872?t=_pSR8mCz4Ey1UXqBCvSLDQ&s=19

On 9 Jan at around 7pm local this flight of 3 C-130s flew low level around NJ.

 

[Trailblazer]

I've seen this video shared a few times recently on Twitter showing 3 large "drones" over New Jersey. Looks kinda like 3 x C-130s to me.


Source: https://x.com/EzeemmaCraic/status/1878605846298738872?t=_pSR8mCz4Ey1UXqBCvSLDQ&s=19

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On 9 Jan at around 7pm local this flight of 3 C-130s flew low level around NJ.

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Yes I did a Google Earth recreation of this yesterday in fact. Location is Central Avenue in Ocean City NJ.

The KML tracks seem a bit wonky compared to how closely the aircraft followed each other, but it's undoubtedly a match.

Camera was in the red circle.

 

[Trailblazer]

This was a fun one.

Sandy Vilan

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This morning at 6:30 am over NYC. 3 stationary blinking lights in sky and not planes or building tower lights. Way up high over the city.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/525773765/videos/580833181417019/


With a bit of detective work I was able to identify the filming location in New Jersey and ID the lights as three news helicopters over Jersey City.

Presumably the helicopters were there to cover this traffic accident in the area this morning, and/or subsequent jams. There was a fourth chopper which was off to the right as seen from this angle.

 

[TEEJ]

The claims of car sized drone are still being reported. Report from Suffolk County, NY. At the end of the news clip they announce that exclusive new video is going to be released.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=absNTR1eauw

 

[Ann K]

The claims of car sized drone are still being reported. Report from Suffolk County, NY. At the end of the news clip they announce that exclusive new video is going to be released.

Trump is going to announce it. That probably means that some fantasy is going to be spun, and "wrong information" offers no advantage over "no information".

 

[jdog]

The claims of car sized drone are still being reported. Report from Suffolk County, NY. At the end of the news clip they announce that exclusive new video is going to be released.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=absNTR1eauw

Struggling to find any concrete fact in there other than the deployment of the DeDrone system.

There's a little more about that in the coverage by the Suffolk Times at https://suffolktimes.timesreview.co...at-eight-weeks-of-mysterious-drone-sightings/, but even they don't say the sightings "at the airport" were confirmed reports over the airport grounds rather than the common incident of someone looking in the direction of the airport and seeing distant lights in the sky. There's one anecdote in the story of a drone observer who (on some unspecified date) spent four or five hours watching lights in the sky not moving much -- though I wish he'd had tried to get closer to them, or even record some angles to get parallax.

 

[Kyle Ferriter]

The claims of car sized drone are still being reported. Report from Suffolk County, NY. At the end of the news clip they announce that exclusive new video is going to be released.

Suffolk County (NY) officials gave a press conference on Jan 3 in which they claimed there were drones flying over the runway of Gabreski airport on Long Island. Police were not able to identify anything, and no video is given. Basically seems like the politicians assumed there were indeed drones there merely because "it was reported" that there were. At the 5:45 timestamp in the below video a politician (I don't know his name) says "There were some as large as cars, from what we've heard". To me it sounds like just parroting nebulous gossip, and that there were in fact zero confirmed drones over the airport. The police chief said they were in the process of installing a new drone detection system (Remote ID detectors?).


Source: https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/478478211587899


Would be nice to see some videos if they've got some now.

 

[Starflint]

The explosion of the "flare" in this video was so unusual that many people thought it was a new type of UFO from New Jersey.
Source：Hammonton nj, 7:15 pm we saw what looked like flares fall into the street across the lake then looked up to the sky to see this!!! Sound is off due to privacy issues. But the explosion was loud!!!

Another relevant piece of information is this:Source：Videos are pouring in right now. But, I'd like to remind everyone that we do live near military bases and they do practice. I can't see if this is a drone. But, I want to repeat the military does do testing. Video was taken near Joint Base. Our National Guard is expected to be training this weekend.

I don't know if both places have experienced military exercises in the same area？

 

[TEEJ]

This is the footage referred to by News Nation in post #570


Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dfKtAxcI9w

I posted it on a new thread.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/se...ighting-weekend-11th-12th-january-2025.13945/

 

[MonkeeSage]

The explosion of the "flare" in this video was so unusual that many people thought it was a new type of UFO from New Jersey.
Source：Hammonton nj, 7:15 pm we saw what looked like flares fall into the street across the lake then looked up to the sky to see this!!! Sound is off due to privacy issues. But the explosion was loud!!!
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Another relevant piece of information is this:Source：Videos are pouring in right now. But, I'd like to remind everyone that we do live near military bases and they do practice. I can't see if this is a drone. But, I want to repeat the military does do testing. Video was taken near Joint Base. Our National Guard is expected to be training this weekend.

I don't know if both places have experienced military exercises in the same area？

There is a thread about this video here https://www.metabunk.org/threads/exploding-ufo-orb-in-new-jersey.13855

 

[Starflint]

这段视频中"耀斑"的爆炸是如此不寻常，以至于许多人认为这是一种来自新泽西州的新型 UFO。
来源：新泽西州哈蒙顿，晚上 7 点 15 分，我们看到看起来像照明弹的东西落在湖对面的街道上，然后抬头仰望天空看到这个!!由于隐私问题，声音已关闭。但爆炸声很大!!
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There is a thread about this video here https://www.metabunk.org/threads/exploding-ufo-orb-in-new-jersey.13855

Thanks a lot, premium members always know exactly where some of the past articles are located, it saves me a lot of time searching for answers!