Debunked: Dutch Government Admit Chemtrails Exist

skephu

Senior Member.
Some sources have claimed that a Dutch politician or government official has admitted that geoenginering is taking place. For example on Yournewswire: Dutch Government Admit Chemtrails exist, or on Geoengineering Watch: Netherlands Department Of The Environment Officer Is Confronted About Climate Engineering.

The source is a recorded telephone conversation between an anonymous chemtrail activist and Debbie Brenkman, environment and energy policy officer of the parliamentary group of the Dutch Socialist Party:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAW4FOOWe-0


According to the English translation, she says (2:43):
Then she goes on to say that they assume geoengineering only occurs on a limited scale, and does not have a major impact on health and the environment.

Later in the video, however, she is asked what she thinks about the observation that on some days the sky is full of trails that spread and merge into a thin veil. Then she answers (10:19):
Then she goes on to state that she can only consider published scientific papers, and not some individuals' observation.

Although she did not clarify what she meant when she said she did not deny geoengineering is taking place, she obviously doesn't think that the trails often visible in the sky are associated with geoengineering in any way, and in fact she thinks they are contrails.

We can only guess what she meant by geoengineering taking place. But geoengineering has many forms including cool roofs (pale-colored roofs; there are several cool roof projects in several countries), or reforestation for carbon dioxide removal, which have actually been going on, but these are insignificant and harmless. She may also have referred to the research (theoretical and lab research) into possible geoengineering solutions. It is also possible that she is not sufficiently informed about the subject; she is not an expert but a politician.

But she essentially rejected the idea that "chemtrails" exist, so the title of the Yournewswire article is false.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Henk001

Senior Member.
Some sources have claimed that a Dutch politician or government official has admitted that geoenginering is taking place. For example on Yournewswire: Dutch Government Admit Chemtrails exist, or on Geoengineering Watch: Netherlands Department Of The Environment Officer Is Confronted About Climate Engineering.

The source is a recorded telephone conversation between an anonymous chemtrail activist and Debbie Brenkman, environment and energy policy officer of the parliamentary group of the Dutch Socialist Party:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAW4FOOWe-0


According to the English translation, she says (2:43):
Then she goes on to say that they assume geoengineering only occurs on a limited scale, and does not have a major impact on health and the environment.

Later in the video, however, she is asked what she thinks about the observation that on some days the sky is full of trails that spread and merge into a thin veil. Then she answers (10:19):
Then she goes on to state that she can only consider published scientific papers, and not some individuals' observation.

Although she did not clarify what she meant when she said she did not deny geoengineering is taking place, she obviously doesn't think that the trails often visible in the sky are associated with geoengineering in any way, and in fact she thinks they are contrails.

We can only guess what she meant by geoengineering taking place. But geoengineering has many forms including cool roofs (pale-colored roofs; there are several cool roof projects in several countries), or reforestation for carbon dioxide removal, which have actually been going on, but these are insignificant and harmless. She may also have referred to the research (theoretical and lab research) into possible geoengineering solutions. It is also possible that she is not sufficiently informed about the subject; she is not an expert but a politician.

But she essentially rejected the idea that "chemtrails" exist, so the title of the Yournewswire article is false.
She very politely states that she can't take the remarks about chemtrails seriously, her intonation leads me (as a native Dutch) to the conclusion that she actually means it is BS.
 

Henk001

Senior Member.
By the way: Debbie is not part of the government, nor is she member of the parliament fraction of the SP. She is a policy advisor of the SP parliament fraction on environmental issues.
 

Miss VocalCord

Senior Member.
She very politely states that she can't take the remarks about chemtrails seriously, her intonation leads me (as a native Dutch) to the conclusion that she actually means it is BS.
Indeed; this is what I hear between the lines too. From about 4 to 5 minutes into the call she already tries to make an end to the conversation, which takes her almost another 6 minutes to do so.
She was very polite and clear on the subject, accept for that one line when she talked about "geoengineering is taking place".
 

Jan-61

Member
She might have felt embarrased by the rather aggressive manner of the guy's approach, that she just blurted out this not denying a geo-enginering practice. I guess the woman might not have much thought things over about this 'problem'.

However, the chemtrail-believer phenomena is rather exclusive to the left-wing portion of the political landscape.


Jan.
 

Spectrar Ghost

Senior Member.
However, the chemtrail-believer phenomena is rather exclusive to the left-wing portion of the political landscape.

I think "chemtrails" are actually pretty evenly spread, unlike GMO/organic (left) and SHTF (right), for instance.

Edit: Though, predictably, each side claims different motives behind their theory.
 

Miss VocalCord

Senior Member.
I did try to email the person in the video, however I can't find her email address. I did try to mail the spokesman she supposedly should work for within the party, but haven't got any response from him either.

What I did find is this (Dutch) website
http://vraagde2ekamer.nl/sluierbewolking-of-chemtrails/

The article itself is already a few years old, but there is an update from 11 november 2015 from an employee of the SP parliament fraction:

My guess this is the same person answering the questions. Especially this bit is completely wrong:

So it seems like again the SP is saying chemtrails exist and it was even admitted by the EU. The only questions/answers I can remember from the SP to the EU Parliament were by Erik Meyer who was member of the SP. The questions he asked and answers were these:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=WQ&reference=E-2007-2455&language=EN
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getAllAnswers.do?reference=E-2007-2455&language=EN

One specific question answer is of interest:

And the answer:

Now I really don't see how it could be translated into the answer from the SP in either the video and the above website. I'll might try to send them another email.
 

Joep

New Member
I'm Dutch as well, and watched the video a week or so ago cause it was mentioned on twitter. Indeed at no point does she admits to chemtrails. I admire her patience with the guy that calls her.
 
Thread starter Related Articles Forum Replies Date
TEEJ Debunked: Claim that Joe Biden's hand passes through microphone during White House press gaggle, 16th March 2021 Election 2020 8
bird_up Debunked: "Interdimensional being" caught on CCTV in Neza, Mexico UFOs, Aliens, Monsters, and the Paranormal 6
M Debunked: Atmospheric pressure on Mars is 9 PSI, not 0.09 PSI as claimed by NASA Science and Pseudoscience 75
Patrick Gonzalez Debunked: missing cable on Perseverance landing footage proves it is fake. General Discussion 3
TEEJ Debunked: Biden's Oval Office "Coming Apart at the Seams" [It's a Door] Election 2020 19
derrick06 Debunked: UFO over California Highway (TMZ) UFOs, Aliens, Monsters, and the Paranormal 1
P Debunked: 7 Alleged photos of aliens UFOs, Aliens, Monsters, and the Paranormal 8
Mick West Debunked: Biden signing "Blank" Executive Orders Election 2020 5
Mick West Debunked: Biden in "Fake" Oval Office Election 2020 27
P Debunked: UN hidden camera: the first UFO contact happened [Deep Fake] UFOs, Aliens, Monsters, and the Paranormal 3
Mick West Debunked: 94% of Fulton County Ballots Manually Adjudicated [It's a Process all Batches go Through] Election 2020 0
Mick West Debunked: "Missile Strike" caused Nashville Explosion General Discussion 3
Mick West Debunked: Nashville Explosion was "Across the Street" from the RV General Discussion 0
Mick West Debunked: "Error rate of 68.5% Allowable is .0008%" [Neither is True] Election 2020 4
Mick West Debunked: Claim that the Electoral College Count On Jan 6 will Change the Election Election 2020 136
Rory Debunked: Einstein wrote "blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth" Quotes Debunked 12
Mick West Debunked: Navid Keshavarz-Nia's Claims of "A Sudden Rise in Slope" as Election Fraud Evidence Election 2020 5
Mick West Debunked: Trump's Claim of "1,126,940 votes created out of thin air" in PA Election 2020 8
Mick West Debunked: Crowder's "Fraud Week" Title Graphic (and Why it Matters) Election 2020 1
JFDee Debunked: Democratic senators complained about 'vote switching' by Dominion voting machines in 2019 Election 2020 2
Mendel Debunked: The Democrats are trying to take away freedom of religion Election 2020 6
H Debunked: Dr. Shiva's Scatterplot Analysis of Michigan Precincts Election 2020 43
Mick West Debunked: Suspicious "Biden Only" Ballots in Georgia Election 2020 3
Mick West Debunked: "Nancy Pelosi's long time Chief of Staff is a key executive at Dominion Voting" Election 2020 0
Mick West Debunked: Wisconsin Turnout 89% Impossible High [Actually 72%] Election 2020 1
Mick West Debunked: Video of Poll Worker "Filling In" Ballots. Election 2020 3
Mick West Debunked: Pentagon has Evidence of "Off-World Vehicles Not Made on this Earth" UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 14
derrick06 Debunked: United Nations creates a "NWO" website Conspiracy Theories 2
N Debunked: Google Mail icon shows linkage to Freemasons Conspiracy Theories 4
Mendel Debunked: The WHO did not take the Taiwan CDC seriously Coronavirus COVID-19 0
A Why 9/11 Truthers Are Wrong About The Facts | (Part 1 w/ Mick West) 9/11 1
Mendel Debunked: Radar Waves Affect Clouds General Discussion 4
Pumpernickel Need Debunking: Foucault's Pendulum debunked through Mach's principle (the Earth is a static object in the center of the Universe) Science and Pseudoscience 16
M Ufos arrive to the central zone of Chile. (Debunked). Skydentify - What is that Thing in the Sky? 0
Jesse3959 FE Debunked with water tube level - 187 foot building 21.2 miles away below eye level Flat Earth 0
H Debunked: Cadillac Mountain from 220 miles Flat Earth 7
Jesse3959 FE Claim Debunked: JTolan Epic Gravity Experiment - Flat earther disproves Perspective! (or his instruments.) Flat Earth 0
Mick West Debunked: DoD prepares for martial law in CONUS: Conspiracy Theories 0
Oystein Debunked: AE911T: CNBC Anchor Ron Insana claims Building 7 a Controlled Implosion 9/11 13
A Debunked: NASA tampered with the original television audio of the Apollo 11 moon landing Conspiracy Theories 1
Greylandra Debunked: media headline "Judea declares war on Germany" [boycott] Conspiracy Theories 20
Mick West Discovery Channel's "Contact: Declassified Breakthrough" was debunked 2.5 years ago UFOs, Aliens, Monsters, and the Paranormal 8
Joe Hill Debunked: "The North Face of Building 7 Was Pulled Inward" 9/11 66
A Debunked : Fake Set Moon Landing with TV Camera and Stairs Conspiracy Theories 3
Mick West Debunked: Photo with Sun Rays at Odd Angles Flat Earth 0
Staffan Debunked: Wikileaks releases unused footage of moon landing (Capricorn One movie scenes) Conspiracy Theories 2
Mick West Debunked: Neil deGrasse Tyson : "That Stuff is Flat" Flat Earth 10
Mendel Debunked: Air Map of the World 1945 is a flat Earth map Flat Earth 0
Trailblazer Debunked: Trees being cut down "because they block 5G" (tree replacement in Belgium) 5G and Other EMF Health Concerns 44
deirdre Debunked: Exemption from military service doc proves Jews had foreknowledge of WW2 (fake leaflet) General Discussion 0
Related Articles


















































Related Articles

Top