What sort of thought though? What strategy to this do you see other than causing chaos and being on the run?Well to be honest now the situation is that there has been other group(a man and a female) taken hostages and demanding police to end surrounding the allegaded terrorists I would call that there is some tought put on this plan.
ETA:A municipal police officer, Clarissa Jean-Philippe, 25, was shot and killed in Montrouge, a southern suburb of Paris, on 8 January. An unnamed street sweeper was also severely wounded in the attack. Press sources have stated that the suspect is from the same jihadist group as those who carried out the Charlie Hebdo attack, and French police have said there is a "connection" between them.
Also on 9 January, an armed gunman, speculated to be Amedy Coulibaly, 32, attacked a Hypercacher koshersupermarket at Porte de Vincennes, east Paris, taking at least five hostages and reportedly killing at least four people. He has a female accomplice, speculated to be Hayat Boumeddiene, 26. It was later confirmed that Coulibaly was the gunman of Montrouge.
At approximately 17:15, explosions and gunfire were heard at both the Dammartin-en-Goële and Porte de Vincennes locations.
- Police storm building containing men suspected of Charlie Hebdo massacre
- Brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi killed, hostage reportedly freed
- Hostage-taker also killed in assault on Paris supermarket, police say
- Four hostages killed, police say, others seen coming out afterwards
It still looks to me a lot like a martyrdom plot. Usually the major intent of those is to incite anti-Islamic sentiments and provoke a population into marginalizing or victimizing Muslims in general, because disaffected citizens are easier to recruit than comfortable and equal ones. This is why Australia's #illridewithyou response was so amazing, they didn't take the bait at all.What sort of thought though? What strategy to this do you see other than causing chaos and being on the run?
When were they reported shot and captured?
The sad thing is so many young people aren't able to step back and ask questions. It sucks them into a life of fear and paranoia looking at a computer screen all day. Now at 22 I know a hell of a lot more now and its helped me to answer questions my 16 year old brother asked me when he run into it all too. This has become one of my favorite sites for that reason. Along the way I've learned some pretty cool stuff too! It makes a difference I'll tell you that. Knowledge is power, and satisfaction of learning something new or helping to inform someone who's stuck in a cyclone of bunk is priceless.
I was talking to a French Canadian journalist this morning, about these conspiracy theories, and I told him that the majority of believers were young, under 25, and even more under 20. Most of the people online who are instantly posting about "false flags" are young people, immature adolescents.
I was talking to a French Canadian journalist this morning, about these conspiracy theories, and I told him that the majority of believers were young, under 25, and even more under 20. Most of the people online who are instantly posting about "false flags" are young people, immature adolescents. Most of them will grow out of it, but some will get stuck for longer than other, and it can ruin their lives.
I want people to grow out it quicker, and for less people to get stuck.
The people I see on Chemtrails Global Skywatch and the other chemtrail forums also include many older people. I wonder if chemtrails is a hoax that spans the ages, because I agree about other Cts.
*groan*Police Chief Helric Fredou now dead of apparent suicide according to CTs. I don't see anything on western media yet, but Googled it and there are some French publications reporting it.
Only one ID was found.
Surely you can think of several reasons why they might have had ID besides a massive worldwide conspiracy?
Does this appear to you so far that this was a brilliantly thought out and executed plan?
The problem is some are using 'planned' to imply secret-agent special-op level planning above the basic organising you'd expect for people doing something like this.
Police Chief Helric Fredou now dead of apparent suicide according to CTs. I don't see anything on western media yet, but Googled it and there are some French publications reporting it.
And of course, CTs are using it to further their narrative...(he was murdered because he knew too much)
French local TV sitecan anyone find any news links about think? Theres loads of CT sites reporting it, but can't find any msm reports.
Simply sounds like the events triggered the suicide. Of course it's more fuel to the cynical conspiracy theoristWe learned this morning, a Commissioner SRPJ Limoges has committed suicide last nightin his office with his service weapon . Information confirmed by his superiors. It is unknown at this time the reasons for his actions. He would have killed himself that night to 1 hour. The Commissioner Helric Fredou aged 45 years was from Limoges began his career in 1997 as a police officer at the regional office the judicial police of Versailles, before returning to Limoges. He was deputy director of the regional police service since 2012. His father was a former police officer, his mother was a nurse in the emergency context CHU Limoges. He was single and had no children. According to the police union commissioner was depressed and experiencing burnout . In November 2013, the Commissioner Fredou had discovered the lifeless body of his colleague, number 3 of SRPJ Limoges, who had also committed suicide with his service weapon in his office. He was also 44 years old. The Commissioner Fredou, like all agents SRPJ worked yesterday on the case of the massacre at the headquarters of Charlie Hebdo . In particular, he surveyed the family of one of the victims. He killed himself before completing its report. A psychological cell was set up in the police station.
When I was in the Army we had saying that actual firefight takes less than 0.1% of the time of the battle rest of time is preparing and that separates amateurs from professionals. Personally I have no idea how the urban area battle is conducted but to me it seems that the criminals achieved their goal to kill certain journalist and also after that sprayed everyone who was around. Also what comes to threat and turning back to it I did not see any actual threat to them. I am saying this as an six star armchair general that the guy who made a comment about how the drills are conducted and how the criminals acted is no way saying about their allegaded professionality. ie. it does not matter in what tactical position you shoot unarmed civilians because even in that operation most of the time has been spent by bying guns, getting touch with likeminded people and all around plan and equip for the operation under the surveilance of the French secret service which in my mind they succeeded.Sam Kylie on Sky spoke of how 'professional' they looked from the 10 seconds of film they saw, but any Lance Corporal at Junior Brecon (British Army Infantry NCO School) will tell you that no pairs fire-and-manouvre drill would include turning your back against the threat, which they did when getting back into the car.
Also what comes to threat and turning back to it I did not see any actual threat to them. I am saying this as an six star armchair general that the guy who made a comment about how the drills are conducted and how the criminals acted is no way saying about their allegaded professionality. ie. it does not matter in what tactical position you shoot unarmed civilians because even in that operation most of the time has been spent by bying guns, getting touch with likeminded people and all around plan and equip for the operation under the surveilance of the French secret service which in my mind they succeeded.
The guys with the writing could be parking attendants or street sweepers for all he knows, and the guys wearing body-armour, if it is that, could be the building security personnel.This video. The guy claims the guy on the roof is wearing body armor.
The police are the ones who identified him as a suspect though.For example in this case the media published names of the terrorists and it turns out that one of them was actually totally innocent. An 18 year old high-school(or whatever this in France) kid whos life has been now investigated by thousands wannabe James Bonds and also secret services all around the world. His crime was that his sister married one of the terrorists. That is not fair and I bet that rest of his life he is gonna meet this thing for example if he wants to fly somewhere or get a job the employer is gonna google him and find out what people claim about him. This is unaccetable.
Yes Ive seen horrific injuries that produce little actual bleeding. The human body (as have animals) evolved a system commonly called Fight or Flight Response. In Fight or Flight one of the key things that happens as our body prepares for or reacts to injury is blood vessels contract to minimize blood loss.Because a lot of times there isn't necessarily a lot of blood correct?
. However Infowars/Prison Planet is taking what seems initially a more reasonable approach, avoiding most "false flag" accusations, and focussing more on freedom of speech, political correctness, and people being overly accommodating or fearful of muslims. Fairly straightforward libertarian or right wing stuff. It seem there that they, and Paul Joseph Watson in particular, are initially responding with honesty.
But then we also have:
So I suspect they will discover their audience prefers to listen to false flag speculation, and so they will focus on that.On the Thursday, January 8 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Jones breaks down the latest on the Paris shooting, and expounds on why details of the perfectly timed attacks, carried out with military precision, fit the script of an inside job. Alex considers various motives behind why a media organization was targeted, as the manhunt for the suspects continues.
Generally the Wikipedia entry for stories like this is closest to the most accurate information, as it aggregates the media reports, and there are many eyes on a new story looking for errors. So when looking to fact-check something, I would make this my first stop:
For perspective on the ground, here's the actual location. A quiet back street with no traffic:
10 Rue Nicolas-Appert, Paris, France
Thanks for the site.
Are you sure the policeman was shot in this street Mick ?
The reason Iam asking is today was my first day of surfing on internet and seeing what's what regarding the Paris shootings. I came across a lot of people who jumped on a verbal error by a Sky reporter at the scene where the policeman shot. Iam not going into it too much and Iam not posting the following link to dwell on what he said but more the location . It doesn't look like the street you mentioned .
Have a look at you will see what I mean. Once again it's not about what he is saying.
As far as I have seen this policeman (Ahmed Merabet) was indeed shot on the Boulevard Richard Lenoir.According to this Sky report the reporter he is at the scene where the policeman was shot. It looks like the Boulevard and he actually says it is and not Rue Nicolas-Appert. Iam confused and tired.
Yes, that is correct. However when they escaped they encountered a police car in the Allee Verte (which is next to the Rue Nicolas-Appert) which they also fired at. At least that is what I conclude from the pictures seen.I thought the Rue Nicolas-Appert is where the Charlie Hebdo offices were.
Can you be more precise as to what the problem is here? People should not have to watch the video to figure out what you are talking about.