Can someone debunk Vigilant Citizen?

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Cairenn

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Is this what you mean? It is a triangular piece of land and I feel that some folks are 'seeing' into what they want to see, not what is there.

Sort of like my professor that said all skyscapers are phallic symbols.

 
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lemonlover

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Is this what you mean? It is a triangular piece of land and I feel that some folks are 'seeing' into what they want to see, not what is there.

Sort of like my professor that said all skyscapers are phallic symbols.

There are clearer pictures than this which clearly show a giant triangle with an eye over the top. I'm not imagining anything.
 
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Cairenn

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I suggest that you check out the politeness policy here. I am trying to make a point about folks 'seeing' things into shapes/designs/stars that are NOT there, except in their own minds.
 

lemonlover

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I said there are clearer pictures than the one you posted which clearly shows a giant triangle with an eye over the top. I'm not seeing things or making shapes that aren't there etc. This is clearly what is shown in these other pictures.
 

lemonlover

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Well, can you give us a link to one of those?
I don't know how to post links sorry. Just type into Google "2016 Olympic park Daily mail" and look at the DM article. There is a picture there. David Icke says that 2016 "is the year of change" whatever that means. I do believe something big is going to happen over the Olympics. Maybe a faked Alien invasion to convince the world to have a world army.
 

Cairenn

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This one? First it's a TRIANGLE not a pyramid. It doens't look like a pyramid with an all seeing eye to me.

What do others think?

 
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lemonlover

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Yes, that one. "First it's a TRIANGLE not a pyramid." What shape are Pyramids? If you don't think it looks like a giant Triangle with an eye over the top, then what do you think it looks like? Because to me, that is clearly a triangle with an eye over the top.
 

Pete Tar

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A triangle and a circle are pretty common shapes, finding one inside the other may be significant to you but can equally just be aesthetics, or just how something comes together.
This sort of thing will never be clear intent of anything, until you can find a statement of a designer that it is deliberate and it signifies allegiance to goals of the Illuminati.
Anyone can call themselves the Illuminati though, much as anyone can take a Guy Fawkes mask and claim they represent 'anonymous'.
It's too grey an area to really make any concrete conclusions.
 

lemonlover

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A triangle and a circle are pretty common shapes, finding one inside the other may be significant to you but can equally just be aesthetics, or just how something comes together.
This sort of thing will never be clear intent of anything, until you can find a statement of a designer that it is deliberate and it signifies allegiance to goals of the Illuminati.
Anyone can call themselves the Illuminati though, much as anyone can take a Guy Fawkes mask and claim they represent 'anonymous'.
It's too grey an area to really make any concrete conclusions.
Well, nobody is going to come forword and say "hello in I'm the Illuminati" but there are videos on YouTube of people like Kissinger, Barack Obama, Tony Blair, David Rockefeller, Gordon Brown, and George Soros all talking about the New World Order. This is the main Illuminiati Symbol. This symbol is also on the Americian Dollar bill. In my opinion all the things I've mentioned are clear evidence of the Illuminati new world order being real.
 

Cairenn

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You Tubes are great for cute cat videos and for heart warming dog stories and for watching magnificent horses move, but they are a LOUSY source of FACTS. Lots of opinions, but I WANT facts backed up with evidence.

I have looked at a lot links and I see none for some long term malevolent group that wants to run the world.

All a 'new world order ' is, is one where there is less war and more cooperation among nations. Where more children have a chance to live to adulthood and to go to school. Where there are less deaths among women in childbirth and where a girl can become a doctor or the leader of her country. A world where animals are not hunted to extinction and forests destroyed for fire wood, where all countries are concerned about protecting the environment and the seas.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would believe what the lady you post about first had to say was factual. The lady seems mentally ill to me. The story about sex with dolphins should have shown you that.
 

Pete Tar

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Well, nobody is going to come forword and say "hello in I'm the Illuminati" but there are videos on YouTube of people like Kissinger, Barack Obama, Tony Blair, David Rockefeller, Gordon Brown, and George Soros all talking about the New World Order. This is the main Illuminiati Symbol. This symbol is also on the Americian Dollar bill. In my opinion all the things I've mentioned are clear evidence of the Illuminati new world order being real.

Yes it's an interesting topic (in a fantasy-novel plot kind of way), but unless you have concrete evidence all you're going to get is conversation with like-minded people who also find it interesting - try to present your evidence to somebody who has no interest or hasn't heard of them and you will be shrugged at, unless you've uncovered something astounding and undeniable that has no other possible interpretation or context.
So far it is so open to spin and personal interpretation that a useful conversation isn't really possible, unless on tangential topics.

There would have to be something much more explicit than what I've seen so far over the years for me to really get spooked about it.
And speeches are notorious for being edited and taken out of context and used as proof, when it really isn't.

Much of what you would consider compelling evidence has already been looked at here - check out the quotes debunked section for discussion of some that might be what you're talking about.

You'll get frustrated easily here if you expect others to have the same reaction to what you consider evidence - sorry, but they wont. (although there are a few adherents)
 

Cairenn

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I posted the picture of my pendent because to me, it is a neat blue lace agate geode slice. I have had 3 men tell me that it looked like a vagina. I kept wanting to ask them if they were having problems 'getting some'.
 

lemonlover

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Yes it's an interesting topic (in a fantasy-novel plot kind of way), but unless you have concrete evidence all you're going to get is conversation with like-minded people who also find it interesting - try to present your evidence to somebody who has no interest or hasn't heard of them and you will be shrugged at, unless you've uncovered something astounding and undeniable that has no other possible interpretation or context.
So far it is so open to spin and personal interpretation that a useful conversation isn't really possible, unless on tangential topics.

There would have to be something much more explicit than what I've seen so far over the years for me to really get spooked about it.
And speeches are notorious for being edited and taken out of context and used as proof, when it really isn't.

Much of what you would consider compelling evidence has already been looked at here - check out the quotes debunked section for discussion of some that might be what you're talking about.

You'll get frustrated easily here if you expect others to have the same reaction to what you consider evidence - sorry, but they wont. (although there are a few adherents)
Have you ever heard of cognitive dissonance? You offer me nothing to "debunk" what I've shown you. You've just come up with something to make it fit in your head. The evidence I've shown you is clear and proves beyond all doubt that the new world order is real.
 

lemonlover

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Your just being silly. Why don't you offer evidence to "debunk" everything i've shown you? Aso look up the "illuminati card game" on youTube. This was released in 1995 and shows the 9/11 attacks. There is also a card that shows "18 1/2 inches" and a picture of what I initially thought as film reel, but a few months back they found a piece of plane wedged between an 18 inch gap. The pictures of the piece of plane and the picture on the card are identical.
Really, beyond all doubt?
Make a court case then and present it here.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
It's a Steve Jackson game ! It is fantasy, just like his other games.

I happen to know quite a bit about him, his ex wife is an acquaintance of mine. He is no where a member of the illuminati, in fact he is a lot more an ex hippy.

The 18 1/2 inch gap is not a card, this is "18 1/2-Minute Gap" But inches fit the conspiracy better, don't they?
And it is CLEARLY a reel of tape not an airplane part.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)

In a hilarious turn of events actual conspiracy theorists, such as David Icke and Cutting Edge Ministries, failed to see the satire, noticed the similarities between the cards and their own beliefs and concluded that Jackson knows the truth.

This is based largely around two cards in particular. One, titled Terrorist Nuke, shows two skyscrapers resembling (in the way any grey blocks would) the World Trade Center, one of which is exploding in roughly the same place that it was hit by the plane in real life. The other is titled Pentagon, and shows the building in flames. Although admittedly striking, Occam's Razor says coincidence.[2] (Also, the Terrorist Nuke is from the 1995 Illuminati: New World Order trading card game, and the WTC has been already the subject of a terrorist bombing attack in 1993.)

There is also the fact that the World Trade Center was destroyed by two aeroplanes, not a nuke, but this didn't stop Cutting Edge: "One can only ask: was a micro-nuclear device used at the base of the Twin Towers as well? That kind of small, but nuclear, explosion would account for the sudden manner the reinforced concrete and steel shell simply crumbled into dust as it fell."[1] An "ex-Satanist" claims that the broken fuselage and wing-tips of an aeroplane can be seen in the drawing,[3] but the grey chunks could just as easily be bits of the building.
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Combined Disasters is probably the most talked-about card beyond the two that suggest 9/11. It shows several buildings collapsing, including a clock tower. At one point this was interpreted by some as predicting the 7 July 2005 London bombings, with the clock tower being Big Ben[6] (despite the fact that Big Ben was not damaged in the attack). Later it was taken to represent the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, showing the Wako clock tower in Tokyo[7] although, again, this was not damaged in the disaster, and the mostly dark-skinned people in the drawing do not look particularly Japanese. More recently it has been taken to refer to the 2011 England riots - which once again, did not involve the destruction of Big Ben.[8] A video posted to YouTube in 2010 takes it to predict some catastrophe that will take place at the 2012 London Olympics, as the five figures in front are wearing the colours of the Olympic rings.[9] This also failed to occur as planned.
Nuclear Accident shows a Simpsons-style nuclear power plant with a crack down one of its cooling towers[10]. Despite looking nothing like Fukushima (which had no cooling towers at all) this has also been taken to refer to the Japanese disaster,[11] as has Atomic Monster, which shows a Godzilla parody destroying a city.[12] This, er, didn't actually happen.
Oil Spill, showing a sea bird covered in oil, has been connected to the BP oil spill of 2010. However, the card depicts a sinking ship (presumably an oil tanker), rather than a sea-floor oil gusher.[13] (Oil tankers sinking and spreading crap all over the coastline is nothing new. See for example the Torrey Canyon[wp] disaster in... 1967.)
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Pete Tar

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Your just being silly. Why don't you offer evidence to "debunk" everything i've shown you? Aso look up the "illuminati card game" on youTube. This was released in 1995 and shows the 9/11 attacks. There is also a card that shows "18 1/2 inches" and a picture of what I initially thought as film reel, but a few months back they found a piece of plane wedged between an 18 inch gap. The pictures of the piece of plane and the picture on the card are identical.
Well how would anyone 'debunk' that a triangular shape with a circle in it is or is not an 'eye in the pyramid'?
It's totally open to interpretation. If you're not inclined to think that way, then it's evidence of nothing. So how would you convince someone who wasn't inclined to see that sort of thing? Where is the irrefutable evidence that even they would be convinced by? That's the point I'm trying to make.
You're impressed, but they wouldn't be. It requires a higher level of evidence that leaves no other possibility other than what you say it is.
Is it impossible that circles appear in pyramids for non-illuminati reasons?
 

Melbury's Brick

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For those who didn't encounter him, this guy was at the extreme edge of "interesting" interpretations of symbols and numbers. he had the ability to dig an "illuminati" message out of absolutely anything.


He tragically committed suicide although, predictably, that's not how the ct see it.
(It's very long.......a skip through is enough to give an insight.)
 

Soulfly

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Have you ever heard of cognitive dissonance? You offer me nothing to "debunk" what I've shown you. You've just come up with something to make it fit in your head. The evidence I've shown you is clear and proves beyond all doubt that the new world order is real.
I haven't seen any evidence from you, only your opinion.
 

mynym

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Have you ever heard of cognitive dissonance? You offer me nothing to "debunk" what I've shown you. You've just come up with something to make it fit in your head. The evidence I've shown you is clear and proves beyond all doubt that the new world order is real.

A card game? That proves it beyond all doubt? It's probably either that or you need to be careful about letting Google algorithms build a worldview out of Youtube videos for you. Something along the lines of: "If you like this conspiracy video, then you might like to see how reptilian aliens are amongst us too." I would have tried to say that's a satire. But... my satires usually need some work, too many caricatures of people actually seem to exist, don't you know.

There again, I recall reading that Jackson's company was raided. His games probably spooked a faction of the secret societies that would later be involved with threatening their pet (scape) goat on 911 by telling him that Angel/Air Force One was next. At least until they figured out that he would behave and so on and so forth.

Actually, I think I can do better than the Google algorithms on this one in general. So fire up the conspiracy side of your brains (half-wits not included) and let's roll:
SJ Games vs. the Secret Service
On March 1 1990, the offices of Steve Jackson Games, in Austin, Texas, were raided by the U.S. Secret Service as part of a nationwide investigation of data piracy. The initial news stories simply reported that the Secret Service had raided a suspected ring of hackers. Gradually, the true story emerged.
More than three years later, a federal court awarded damages and attorneys' fees to the game company, ruling that the raid had been careless, illegal, and completely unjustified. Electronic civil-liberties advocates hailed the case as a landmark. It was the first step toward establishing that online speech IS speech, and entitled to Constitutional protection . . . and, specifically, that law-enforcement agents can't seize and hold a BBS with impunity.
The Raid
On the morning of March 1, without warning, a force of armed Secret Service agents – accompanied by Austin police and at least one civilian "expert" from the phone company – occupied the offices of Steve Jackson Games and began to search for computer equipment. .... A large amount of equipment was seized, including four computers, two laser printers, some loose hard disks and a great deal of assorted hardware. One of the computers was the one running the Illuminati BBS. SJ Games vs. the Secret Service
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The U.S. Secret Service has two distinct areas of responsibility:
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I doubt that there was any evidence that SJ was involved in "major fraud" or anything having to do with the juris my diction crap (obligatory Matrix reference) of the SS that protects the bankster's paper ponzi and the secret societies incorporated closer to the top of the pyramid scheme. So, why the raid? Are some members of the Secret Service or other members of secret societies just as crazy as "conspiracy theorists" getting spooked by false forms of pattern recognition? (At least, when they're not busy with Colombian hookers...)

Anyway, apparently they raided a conspiracy oriented game company to try to investigate their data in an illegal and totally unjustifiable way. One might be forgiven for imagining that elements in a top secret faction that seems to be running things in general (30 year conspiracy, etc.) thought that Steve Jackson knew something about them and the forms of "top secret" or occult/hidden knowledge that they've been working with. But then they figured out that sometimes a satire is just a satire and a card game, just a card game... so he didn't have any of the illegal or top secret data that they apparently thought he had just like the conspiracy theorists.

(The next version of his game: "Secret Service Raid!" -20 from all NWO intelligence agencies... can be traded for a troupe of bungling clowns card to be played on another turn for +100 to all TSA agencies)

In a hilarious turn of events actual conspiracy theorists...
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Interesting that "skeptics" forgot to mention an equally hilarious turn of events, given that the SS and their owners thought that something was up with SJ too. If conspiracy theorists and coincidence theorists could get it together more then they might not be half-wits. Just saying. Plus, wit is always fun. Anyway, I think I did better than the Google algos in creating a big picture on this one.
 
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mynym

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Well how would anyone 'debunk' that a triangular shape with a circle in it is or is not an 'eye in the pyramid'?
It's totally open to interpretation.

Seriously, right?

If you're not inclined to think that way, then it's evidence of nothing. So how would you convince someone who wasn't inclined to see that sort of thing?

That's why I don't get why so many seem so anxious to try to convince others of something. With some, it's too easy. After all, they might panic or change their mind about the latest conspiracy theory the next day. With others, it's too hard. There is no convincing them of anything, especially anything frightening... even if something frightening actually existed.... to da bunker! In any case, why are people interested in convincing each other of something?
 

Cairenn

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They raided them because they thought that someone there was hacking and they found NOTHING.

Y'all came here, and are trying to convince us and you are failing because all you have is opinions.
 

lemonlover

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It's a Steve Jackson game ! It is fantasy, just like his other games.

I happen to know quite a bit about him, his ex wife is an acquaintance of mine. He is no where a member of the illuminati, in fact he is a lot more an ex hippy.

The 18 1/2 inch gap is not a card, this is "18 1/2-Minute Gap" But inches fit the conspiracy better, don't they?
And it is CLEARLY a reel of tape not an airplane part.




I haven't seen any evidence from you, only your opinion.[/quote)
So you don't think the picture looks like a giant triangle with an eye over the top of it? This is a major symbol of the illuninati. Google the Illuminati and you will see this image on Google images. There are also countless videos of people talking about/calling for the/a new world order. Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Tony B;lair, Gordon Brown the videos are all there. Also look up George Green in a video called "how the elite plan to kill us"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)

In a hilarious turn of events actual conspiracy theorists, such as David Icke and Cutting Edge Ministries, failed to see the satire, noticed the similarities between the cards and their own beliefs and concluded that Jackson knows the truth.

This is based largely around two cards in particular. One, titled Terrorist Nuke, shows two skyscrapers resembling (in the way any grey blocks would) the World Trade Center, one of which is exploding in roughly the same place that it was hit by the plane in real life. The other is titled Pentagon, and shows the building in flames. Although admittedly striking, Occam's Razor says coincidence.[2] (Also, the Terrorist Nuke is from the 1995 Illuminati: New World Order trading card game, and the WTC has been already the subject of a terrorist bombing attack in 1993.)

There is also the fact that the World Trade Center was destroyed by two aeroplanes, not a nuke, but this didn't stop Cutting Edge: "One can only ask: was a micro-nuclear device used at the base of the Twin Towers as well? That kind of small, but nuclear, explosion would account for the sudden manner the reinforced concrete and steel shell simply crumbled into dust as it fell."[1] An "ex-Satanist" claims that the broken fuselage and wing-tips of an aeroplane can b
Well how would anyone 'debunk' that a triangular shape with a circle in it is or is not an 'eye in the pyramid'?
It's totally open to interpretation. If you're not inclined to think that way, then it's evidence of nothing. So how would you convince someone who wasn't inclined to see that sort of thing? Where is the irrefutable evidence that even they would be convinced by? That's the point I'm trying to make.
You're impressed, but they wouldn't be. It requires a higher level of evidence that leaves no other possibility other than what you say it is.
Is it impossible that circles appear in pyramids for non-illuminati reasons?

e seen in the drawing,[3] but the grey chunks could just as easily be bits of the building.
...
Combined Disasters is probably the most talked-about card beyond the two that suggest 9/11. It shows several buildings collapsing, including a clock tower. At one point this was interpreted by some as predicting the 7 July 2005 London bombings, with the clock tower being Big Ben[6] (despite the fact that Big Ben was not damaged in the attack). Later it was taken to represent the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, showing the Wako clock tower in Tokyo[7] although, again, this was not damaged in the disaster, and the mostly dark-skinned people in the drawing do not look particularly Japanese. More recently it has been taken to refer to the 2011 England riots - which once again, did not involve the destruction of Big Ben.[8] A video posted to YouTube in 2010 takes it to predict some catastrophe that will take place at the 2012 London Olympics, as the five figures in front are wearing the colours of the Olympic rings.[9] This also failed to occur as planned.
Nuclear Accident shows a Simpsons-style nuclear power plant with a crack down one of its cooling towers[10]. Despite looking nothing like Fukushima (which had no cooling towers at all) this has also been taken to refer to the Japanese disaster,[11] as has Atomic Monster, which shows a Godzilla parody destroying a city.[12] This, er, didn't actually happen.
Oil Spill, showing a sea bird covered in oil, has been connected to the BP oil spill of 2010. However, the card depicts a sinking ship (presumably an oil tanker), rather than a sea-floor oil gusher.[13] (Oil tankers sinking and spreading crap all over the coastline is nothing new. See for example the Torrey Canyon[wp] disaster in... 1967.)
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Well okay I suppose the Illumianti card game is a bit iffy. But, I will never believe that some men sitting in some caves thousands of miles away manadged to out smart one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world.
It's a Steve Jackson game ! It is fantasy, just like his other games.

I happen to know quite a bit about him, his ex wife is an acquaintance of mine. He is no where a member of the illuminati, in fact he is a lot more an ex hippy.

The 18 1/2 inch gap is not a card, this is "18 1/2-Minute Gap" But inches fit the conspiracy better, don't they?
And it is CLEARLY a reel of tape not an airplane part.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)

In a hilarious turn of events actual conspiracy theorists, such as David Icke and Cutting Edge Ministries, failed to see the satire, noticed the similarities between the cards and their own beliefs and concluded that Jackson knows the truth.

This is based largely around two cards in particular. One, titled Terrorist Nuke, shows two skyscrapers resembling (in the way any grey blocks would) the World Trade Center, one of which is exploding in roughly the same place that it was hit by the plane in real life. The other is titled Pentagon, and shows the building in flames. Although admittedly striking, Occam's Razor says coincidence.[2] (Also, the Terrorist Nuke is from the 1995 Illuminati: New World Order trading card game, and the WTC has been already the subject of a terrorist bombing attack in 1993.)

There is also the fact that the World Trade Center was destroyed by two aeroplanes, not a nuke, but this didn't stop Cutting Edge: "One can only ask: was a micro-nuclear device used at the base of the Twin Towers as well? That kind of small, but nuclear, explosion would account for the sudden manner the reinforced concrete and steel shell simply crumbled into dust as it fell."[1] An "ex-Satanist" claims that the broken fuselage and wing-tips of an aeroplane can be seen in the drawing,[3] but the grey chunks could just as easily be bits of the building.
...
Combined Disasters is probably the most talked-about card beyond the two that suggest 9/11. It shows several buildings collapsing, including a clock tower. At one point this was interpreted by some as predicting the 7 July 2005 London bombings, with the clock tower being Big Ben[6] (despite the fact that Big Ben was not damaged in the attack). Later it was taken to represent the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, showing the Wako clock tower in Tokyo[7] although, again, this was not damaged in the disaster, and the mostly dark-skinned people in the drawing do not look particularly Japanese. More recently it has been taken to refer to the 2011 England riots - which once again, did not involve the destruction of Big Ben.[8] A video posted to YouTube in 2010 takes it to predict some catastrophe that will take place at the 2012 London Olympics, as the five figures in front are wearing the colours of the Olympic rings.[9] This also failed to occur as planned.
Nuclear Accident shows a Simpsons-style nuclear power plant with a crack down one of its cooling towers[10]. Despite looking nothing like Fukushima (which had no cooling towers at all) this has also been taken to refer to the Japanese disaster,[11] as has Atomic Monster, which shows a Godzilla parody destroying a city.[12] This, er, didn't actually happen.
Oil Spill, showing a sea bird covered in oil, has been connected to the BP oil spill of 2010. However, the card depicts a sinking ship (presumably an oil tanker), rather than a sea-floor oil gusher.[13] (Oil tankers sinking and spreading crap all over the coastline is nothing new. See for example the Torrey Canyon[wp] disaster in... 1967.)
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I haven't seen any evidence from you, only your opinion.
 
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lemonlover

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So you don't think the picture looks like a giant triangle with an eye over the top of it? This is a major symbol of the illuninati. Google the Illuminati and you will see this image on Google images. There are also countless videos of people talking about/calling for the/a new world order. Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Tony B;lair, Gordon Brown the videos are all there. Also look up George Green in a video called "how the elite plan to kill us"
 

Cairenn

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No it doesn't. You are seeing that because someone told you it was there, just like the vagina in the pendent.

You are repeating yourself and the comments about a new world order are taken out of context.

No one wants to kill us. Especially not the elite. To make money you have to SELL something to other folks. You need folks make things, to be servants and such. To say they want to kill folks is nonsense.

But maybe you believe that they are non human.?
 

Pete Tar

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So you don't think the picture looks like a giant triangle with an eye over the top of it? This is a major symbol of the illuninati. Google the Illuminati and you will see this image on Google images. There are also countless videos of people talking about/calling for the/a new world order. Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Tony B;lair, Gordon Brown the videos are all there. Also look up George Green in a video called "how the elite plan to kill us"
Have a look at the quotes debunked part of the forum for how things can have different meanings depending on context.
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/quotes-debunked.17/
 
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lemonlover

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No it doesn't. You are seeing that because someone told you it was there, just like the vagina in the pendent.

You are repeating yourself and the comments about a new world order are taken out of context.

No one wants to kill us. Especially not the elite. To make money you have to SELL something to other folks. You need folks make things, to be servants and such. To say they want to kill folks is nonsense.

But maybe you believe that they are non human.?
"]No it doesn't. You are seeing that because someone told you it was there, just like the vagina in the pendent."
O'h come on really? Your telling me it doesn't look like a giant triangle with an eye over the top? Come on of course it does. These comments have not been taken out of context. They were said by people who have taken countries into wars.
" To make money you have to SELL something to other folks. " to be honest I don't think it's about money for them anymore. I think it's about control. They are in the process of destroying the money system and they have all the money they need. So that is why I think it's about control. According to James Casbolt, they are going to release a virus on the US and put the chips in the vaccination. I don't believe they are human. Because there are stories from Andy Paro and James Casbolt about Alien underground bases and George Green talks about building an Underground base for the elite, so I'm wondering why the elite would go underground with Aliens. George Green also talks about the US receiving advanced tech from the Grays. I know how crazy this sounds but I believe we have been brainwashed to think like this when it comes to things like the government working with ETS and things. I'm guessing you're an American and that,that that video has scared you a bit.
 

JRBids

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I said there are clearer pictures than the one you posted which clearly shows a giant triangle with an eye over the top. I'm not seeing things or making shapes that aren't there etc. This is clearly what is shown in these other pictures.

I thought Cairenn posted a pretty clear photo.
 

JRBids

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I don't know how to post links sorry. Just type into Google "2016 Olympic park Daily mail" and look at the DM article. There is a picture there. David Icke says that 2016 "is the year of change" whatever that means. I do believe something big is going to happen over the Olympics. Maybe a faked Alien invasion to convince the world to have a world army.

A faked alien invasion. Seriously?
 

lemonlover

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Have a look at the quotes debunked part of the forum for how things can have different meanings depending on context.
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/quotes-debunked.17/
Yes, I understand what you're saying. But I believe all these politicians mean a New World Order as in a one world government, world currency, world Army etc. What about George Green? Watch his video. And then ask yourself why we have invaded all these countries in the middle East.
 
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