Kyle Ferriter
Senior Member.
Can you elaborate? First time I've seen this name.David A. Kozik has been doing for this UFO saga since it started in Congress, being present and sitting next to Burlison on ALL Congressional hearings
Can you elaborate? First time I've seen this name.David A. Kozik has been doing for this UFO saga since it started in Congress, being present and sitting next to Burlison on ALL Congressional hearings
Can you elaborate? First time I've seen this name.David A. Kozik has been doing for this UFO saga since it started in Congress, being present and sitting next to Burlison on ALL Congressional hearings
"Pentagon Gatekeeper's Name Inside the DoD Finally Exposed as Congress Blocked From UFO Facility", International Business Times website,External Quote:
According to Jones's research, the alleged gatekeeper is David Kozik, a career Department of Defence civil servant reportedly connected to congressional intelligence coordination. Jones claims that nearly every UFO or UAP-related file heading to Congress has passed through his office.
The claims surfaced as lawmakers investigating UAPs say they were blocked from accessing a facility tied to the UFO issue, raising new concerns about who actually controls disclosure inside the US government.
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Representative Tim Burchett stated in recent remarks that he and other lawmakers, including Eric Burlison, were denied access to a facility connected to the UAP investigation.
Burchett claimed congressional leadership told them the restriction came from the intelligence community itself rather than from Congress.
"FOIA Emails Reveal Pentagon's Tight Control Over AARO "Historical Record Report" Rollout and Messaging", The Black Vault website, 27 August 2025, John Greenewald https://www.theblackvault.com/docum...storical-record-report-rollout-and-messaging/External Quote:The records also capture friction between Congress and the Pentagon over AARO's responsibilities. During a Senate briefing on drone incursions, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand pressed officials on why the Department lacked a central database for unmanned aerial system (UAS) incursions, arguing that AARO should serve that function.
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Internal Pentagon correspondence shows immediate pushback. "We do not want to see sUAS added to AARO's portfolio!" Pentagon spokesperson Gough wrote in an email to David A. Kozik, Director Congressional Activities, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense Intelligence. Kozik repliesd that AARO should serve in a coordinating capacity on counter-UAS issues, but not as the lead office. The discussions underscored a disconnect between congressional expectations and the Department's vision for AARO's scope.
Do a search online for "drone pilot license", what pops up?David A. Kozik is a/ the (unsure which) Director Congressional Activities, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense Intelligence.
NewsNation (home of Ross Coulthart) journalist Rob Jones claims Kozik acts as a gatekeeper of UAP- related material, and had a role in denying some politicians (including Eric Burlison) access to a site supposedly linked to UFOs:
"Pentagon Gatekeeper's Name Inside the DoD Finally Exposed as Congress Blocked From UFO Facility", International Business Times website,External Quote:
According to Jones's research, the alleged gatekeeper is David Kozik, a career Department of Defence civil servant reportedly connected to congressional intelligence coordination. Jones claims that nearly every UFO or UAP-related file heading to Congress has passed through his office.
The claims surfaced as lawmakers investigating UAPs say they were blocked from accessing a facility tied to the UFO issue, raising new concerns about who actually controls disclosure inside the US government.
... ...
Representative Tim Burchett stated in recent remarks that he and other lawmakers, including Eric Burlison, were denied access to a facility connected to the UAP investigation.
Burchett claimed congressional leadership told them the restriction came from the intelligence community itself rather than from Congress.
15 May 2026, Rosemarie Zamora (any relation?) https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pentagon-ufo-gatekeeper-washington-debate-1796969
It might be unlikely Burlison and Kozik are associates / confederates, though Kozik probably knows of Burlison, Burlison might know Kozik.
I suspect Kozik is getting attention and criticism from UFO enthusiasts just because of his job, which appears to involve some supervisory/ advisory responsibilities for AARO. He will have other responsibilities under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense Intelligence, and part of that might include decisions on requests for access to some sensitive sites.
Being an elected politician in many democracies does not confer an automatic right to visit every defence/ intelligence site that they might be interested in.
There is documentary evidence Kozik works as part of a hierarchical chain, as we might expect. He is unlikely to be a sole "gatekeeper" of UAP- related information.
"FOIA Emails Reveal Pentagon's Tight Control Over AARO "Historical Record Report" Rollout and Messaging", The Black Vault website, 27 August 2025, John Greenewald https://www.theblackvault.com/docum...storical-record-report-rollout-and-messaging/External Quote:The records also capture friction between Congress and the Pentagon over AARO's responsibilities. During a Senate briefing on drone incursions, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand pressed officials on why the Department lacked a central database for unmanned aerial system (UAS) incursions, arguing that AARO should serve that function.
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Internal Pentagon correspondence shows immediate pushback. "We do not want to see sUAS added to AARO's portfolio!" Pentagon spokesperson Gough wrote in an email to David A. Kozik, Director Congressional Activities, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense Intelligence. Kozik repliesd that AARO should serve in a coordinating capacity on counter-UAS issues, but not as the lead office. The discussions underscored a disconnect between congressional expectations and the Department's vision for AARO's scope.
A bit off-topic, but re. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand's proposal, there might be very good reasons why AARO, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, should not have the lead on investigating UAS (uncrewed aerial systems- drones etc..) Drones are known technology, they are not anomalous.
They might be the cause of some reported UAP, but so are airliners. AARO shouldn't take over the FAA's remit.
Various branches of the United States military have decades of experience operating UAS, and developing / using counter-UAS systems. Millions, probably billions of dollars have gone into this. AARO is essentially a modest office-based effort for investigating unusual reports.
Much better-resourced organisations (e.g. NORAD) are responsible for the air defence of the USA and enforcement of air policing.
Making AARO the lead organisation for investigating UAS (possibly including those of less friendly states) doesn't really make much sense in defense/ security terms.
Looking back at this list it seems like it matches with PR050 to PR099 in order (PR060 to PR063 being one line "11. Spherical UAP Warlock 4X, 4/12/21 (Video 0,1,2)")
| Luna's list | PR ID | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| 1. 4 UAP formation – Iran, 8/26/22 | PR050 | |
| 2. Syrian UAP instant acceleration, 2021 | PR051 | |
| 3. UAP USO formation Wiley 2X Zinc | PR052 | |
| 4. Cigar-shaped or fat spherical UAP, 10/15/22 | PR053 | "fat" should be "fast" |
| 5. Spherical UAP erratic movement remix (RUST), 2022 | PR054 | |
| 6. Spherical UAP over AFG in and out of clouds, 11/23/20 | PR055 | |
| 7. Spherical UAP pulsing over water Jacker 2X | PR056 | |
| 8. Spherical UAP in clouds | PR057a | |
| 9. Voodoo 4X (Cranberry) UAP | PR058 | |
| 10. NGA UAP, 6/1/10 | PR059 | |
| 11. Spherical UAP Warlock 4X, 4/12/21 (Video 0,1,2) | PR060 PR061 PR062 PR063 | |
| 12. AFSOC Kabul UAP, 2017 | PR064 | |
| 13. USCG C-144 UAP 2 Tic Tac IR hot, 4/24/24 | PR065 | One of the two should be "UAP 1" instead of both "UAP 2" |
| 14. USCG C-144 UAP 2 Tic Tac IR hot, 4/24/24 | PR066 | |
| 15. Multiple Spherical UAP USO near Sub. Cactus 1X in and out of water, 3/25/22 | PR067 | |
| 16. IIR 1 666 SO151 23 video footage of UAP captured by fifth generation aircraft, 1/20/23 | PR068 | |
| 17. F-18 FLIR UAP | PR069 | |
| 18. IIR 1 665 SO301 23/Eglin AFB | PR070 | |
| 19. USAF ANG F-16C (callsign AESIR11) shoots down UAP over Lake Huron with Aim-9X, 2/12/23 | PR071 | |
| 20. Administrative revision: IIR 1777 J0032 22 Kazakhstan – UAP in vicinity of Karaganda International Airport | PR072 | |
| 21. IIR 1 655 S0053 23/ Several UAP in vicinity of Columbus OH airport | PR073 | |
| 22. MQ-9 observer UAP in East China Sea, 1/5/23 | PR057b | (same as 57a) |
| 23. Assault 1X (steel) HD_20220613, 6/13/22 | PR074 | |
| 24. EP-3 Observed UAP in the ECS, 6/9/21 | PR075 | |
| 25. Lightning (Lavendar) observes UAP, 1/3/21 | PR076 | |
| 26. Hackney 6 (Toxic 6) observes and tracks UAP, 11/2/20 (video 1,2) | PR077 PR078 | |
| 27. Toxic 6 (Mercury) observes 3 fast moving UAPs, 10/29/20 | PR079 | |
| 28. Toxic 6 (Hackney 6) observes UAPs, 10/20/20 | PR080 | |
| 29. Greed observes UAP, 10/18/20 | PR081 | |
| 30. Greed observes UAP, 10/16/20 | PR082 | |
| 31. Mad Dog 31 observes UAP, 10/17/20 | PR083? | error in both dates, 17 SEP and 7 OCT not 17 OCT |
| 32. Regulator 73 observes UAP, 10/17/20 | PR084? | |
| 33. Toxic 6 (Hackney 6) observes UAP, 9/16/20 | PR085 | |
| 34. UAP on East Coast, 12/1/19 | PR086 | |
| 35. Toxic 6 UAP, 9/5/20 | PR087 | |
| 36. Toxic 6 (Hackney6) observes UAP, 8/31/20 (video 1,2) | PR088 PR089 | |
| 37. Hellhound 1X (Coffee) observes UAP, 8/24/20 | PR090 | |
| 38. Toxic 6 observes UAP in Persian Gulf, 8/21/20 | PR091 | |
| 39. Hackney 6 (Toxic 6) UAP observation, 8/8/20 | PR092 | |
| 40. Hackney 6 (MQ-9) Gulf of Arabia dual UAP, 5/5/20 | PR093 | |
| 41. Hackney 5X (mint) HD 2020-02-13, 2/13/20 | PR094 | |
| 42. Hackney 6 (MQ-9) UAP in Persian Gulf, 5/20/20 | PR095? | error in date? 5/5/20? |
| 43. HH-11 UAPs, 7/3/18 | PR096 | |
| 44. Hi-Res: Hackney 4X observes UAP at 2135Z, 9/25/19 | PR097 | |
| 45. UFOs in formation over Persian Gulf | PR098 | |
| 46. Hi-Res: Hackney 4X observes UAPs at 1715Z, 9/23/19 | PR099 |
| Luna's list | PR | AARO title | Note |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1. 4 UAP formation – Iran, 8/26/22 | PR050 | 4 UAP Formation Iran 26 Aug 2022 over water [CALLSIGN] | |
| 2. Syrian UAP instant acceleration, 2021 | PR051 | Syrian UAP instant acceleration | |
| 3. UAP USO formation Wiley 2X Zinc | PR052 | UAP USO Formation [CALLSIGN] (Mission) | Luna reveals callsign 'Wiley 2X Zinc' |
| 4. Cigar-shaped or fat spherical UAP, 10/15/22 | PR053 | Cigar Shaped or Fast Sherical UAP clip 15 OCT 22 | L 'fat' should be 'fast' (AARO also misspells 'Sherical') |
| 5. Spherical UAP erratic movement remix (RUST), 2022 | PR054 | Spherical UAP Erratic movement [CALLSIGN] (Mission) 2022 | |
| 6. Spherical UAP over AFG in and out of clouds, 11/23/20 | PR055 | Spherical UAP over AFG in and out of clouds 23 Nov 2020 | |
| 7. Spherical UAP pulsing over water Jacker 2X | PR056 | Spherical UAP pulsing over water [CALLSIGN] | callsign 'Jacker 2X' |
| 8. Spherical UAP in clouds | PR057a | Spherical UAP in clouds | = PR057b: same DVIDS asset 1007720 |
| 9. Voodoo 4X (Cranberry) UAP | PR058 | [CALLSIGN] (Mission) UAP | callsign 'Voodoo 4X (Cranberry)' |
| 10. NGA UAP, 6/1/10 | PR059 | NAG UAP 1 Jun 20 | L 'NGA'->'NAG'; date 6/1/10 should be 6/1/20 (metadata = 2020-06-01) |
| 11. Spherical UAP Warlock 4X, 4/12/21 (Video 0,1,2) | PR060 PR061 PR062 PR063 | Spherical UAP [CALLSIGN] 2021/04/12 (obj 2 / vid 0 / vid 1 / vid 2) | 4 clips; '(Video 0,1,2)'=PR061/062/063, PR060='obj 2'. Iraq |
| 12. AFSOC Kabul UAP, 2017 | PR064 | AFSOC Kabul UAP Jul 2017 | |
| 13. USCG C-144 UAP 2 Tic Tac IR hot, 4/24/24 | PR065 | USCG C-144 Tyndall UAP 2 TIC TAC IR hot 24 April 2024 | the 'UAP 2' clip |
| 14. USCG C-144 UAP 2 Tic Tac IR hot, 4/24/24 | PR066 | USCG C-144 Tyndall UAP 1 TIC TAC IR hot 24 April 2024 | L Luna repeats 'UAP 2'; PR066 is 'UAP 1' |
| 15. Multiple Spherical UAP USO near Sub. Cactus 1X in and out of water, 3/25/22 | PR067 | Multiple Spherical UAP USO near Sub. [CALLSIGN] 2022/03/25 in and out of water | callsign 'Cactus 1X' |
| 16. IIR 1 666 SO151 23 video footage of UAP captured by fifth generation aircraft, 1/20/23 | PR068 | IIR 1 666 S0151 23/...UAP captured by fifth generation aircraft on 20 Jan 23 | 'SO151' vs 'S0151' (O vs 0); date matches title |
| 17. F-18 FLIR UAP | PR069 | F/A-18 FLIR UAP | |
| 18. IIR 1 665 SO301 23/Eglin AFB | PR070 | IIR 1 655 S0301 23/Eglin AFB Aircrew Observed UAP on 13 Feb 23 | L 'IIR 1 665' should be '655' (cf. PR073) |
| 19. USAF ANG F-16C (callsign AESIR11) shoots down UAP over Lake Huron with Aim-9X, 2/12/23 | PR071 | USAF ANG F-16C (callsign [CALLSIGN]) Shoots Down UAP over Lake Huron with [Weapon System], 12 Feb 2023 | Luna reveals callsign 'AESIR11' + weapon 'Aim-9X'; Lake Huron shootdown |
| 20. Administrative revision: IIR 1777 J0032 22 Kazakhstan – UAP in vicinity of Karaganda International Airport | PR072 | ADMINISTRATIVE REVISION: IIR 1777 J0032 22 Kazakhstan - UAP in the vicinity of Karaganda International Airport | |
| 21. IIR 1 655 S0053 23/ Several UAP in vicinity of Columbus OH airport | PR073 | IIR 1 655 S0053 23/Several UAP Encountered In The Vicinity of Columbus OH | |
| 22. MQ-9 observer UAP in East China Sea, 1/5/23 | PR057b | [Platform] Observes UAP in East China Sea 05 JAN 2023 INDOPACOM | = PR057a: same DVIDS asset 1007720; platform 'MQ-9' |
| 23. Assault 1X (steel) HD_20220613, 6/13/22 | PR074 | [CALLSIGN] (Mission) HD_20220613 | callsign 'Assault 1X (steel)' |
| 24. EP-3 Observed UAP in the ECS, 6/9/21 | PR075 | 09JUN2021 [Platform] observed UAP in the ECS | platform 'EP-3' |
| 25. Lightning (Lavendar) observes UAP, 1/3/21 | PR076 | 03 January 2021 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) observes UAP | 'Lightning (Lavendar)' |
| 26. Hackney 6 (Toxic 6) observes and tracks UAP, 11/2/20 (video 1,2) | PR077 PR078 | 2 November 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] Observes and tracks UAP (1 of 2 / 2 of 2) | |
| 27. Toxic 6 (Mercury) observes 3 fast moving UAPs, 10/29/20 | PR079 | 29 October 2020 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) observes 3 fast moving UAPs | |
| 28. Toxic 6 (Hackney 6) observes UAPs, 10/20/20 | PR080 | 20 October 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP | |
| 29. Greed observes UAP, 10/18/20 | PR081 | 18 Oct 2020 [CALLSIGN] observes UAP | |
| 30. Greed observes UAP, 10/16/20 | PR082 | 16 OCT 2020 [CALLSIGN] views UAP | |
| 31. Mad Dog 31 observes UAP, 10/17/20 | PR083 | 7 October 2020 [CALLSIGN] observes UAP | ? AARO date = 7 Oct 2020; Luna 10/17 matches neither 83 nor 84; callsign redacted |
| 32. Regulator 73 observes UAP, 10/17/20 | PR084 | 17 Sept 2020 [CALLSIGN] observes UAP | ? AARO date = 17 Sep 2020; Luna says 10/17/20; callsign redacted |
| 33. Toxic 6 (Hackney 6) observes UAP, 9/16/20 | PR085 | 16 Sept 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] observes UAP | |
| 34. UAP on East Coast, 12/1/19 | PR086 | UAP from Dec 2019 (East Coast) | |
| 35. Toxic 6 UAP, 9/5/20 | PR087 | 05 September 2020 [CALLSIGN] UAP | |
| 36. Toxic 6 (Hackney6) observes UAP, 8/31/20 (video 1,2) | PR088 PR089 | 31 AUG [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP (+ part2) | |
| 37. Hellhound 1X (Coffee) observes UAP, 8/24/20 | PR090 | 24 AUG 2020 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) Observes UAP | 'Hellhound 1X (Coffee)'; Egypt Nile Delta |
| 38. Toxic 6 observes UAP in Persian Gulf, 8/21/20 | PR091 | 21 AUG [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP in Persian Gulf | |
| 39. Hackney 6 (Toxic 6) UAP observation, 8/8/20 | PR092 | 08 AUG 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] UAP observation | |
| 40. Hackney 6 (MQ-9) Gulf of Arabia dual UAP, 5/5/20 | PR093 | May 05 2020 Gulf of Arabia [CALLSIGN] (Platform) Dual UAP | PR093 = 30s clip |
| 41. Hackney 5X (mint) HD 2020-02-13, 2/13/20 | PR094 | [CALLSIGN] (Mission) - HD 2020-02-13 | 'Hackney 5X (mint)' |
| 42. Hackney 6 (MQ-9) UAP in Persian Gulf, 5/20/20 | PR095 | May 05 2020 Gulf of Arabia [CALLSIGN] (Platform) Dual UAP | ? AARO title copied from PR093 (5 May 2020); Luna says '5/20/20 Persian Gulf'. Unresolved which is right. PR095 = 288s clip |
| 43. HH-11 UAPs, 7/3/18 | PR096 | HH11 03 July 2018 UAPs | |
| 44. Hi-Res: Hackney 4X observes UAP at 2135Z, 9/25/19 | PR097 | Hi-Res: [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP on 25SEP19 at 2135Z | |
| 45. UFOs in formation over Persian Gulf | PR098 | UFOs in formation over Persian Gulf? | |
| 46. Hi-Res: Hackney 4X observes UAPs at 1715Z, 9/23/19 | PR099 | Hi-Res: [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP on 25SEP19 at 1715Z | A AARO title says 25SEP19 but AARO metadata = 2019-09-23, matching Luna. AARO title typo, not Luna's |
I think that the "AARO typos" might actually just be what the uploaded title of the videos were listed as on the classified network, errors included. The disclaimer states as much for each.Luna's list of 46 ↔ Release 2 (PR050–PR099) — verified against AARO's CSV + DVIDS metadata, 2026-06-13
The in-order PR050→PR099 mapping holds. Flags below: L = error in Luna's list, A = error in AARO's data, ? = positional guess only (callsign redacted / titles identical).
Luna's list PR AARO title Note 1. 4 UAP formation – Iran, 8/26/22 PR050 4 UAP Formation Iran 26 Aug 2022 over water [CALLSIGN] 2. Syrian UAP instant acceleration, 2021 PR051 Syrian UAP instant acceleration 3. UAP USO formation Wiley 2X Zinc PR052 UAP USO Formation [CALLSIGN] (Mission) Luna reveals callsign 'Wiley 2X Zinc' 4. Cigar-shaped or fat spherical UAP, 10/15/22 PR053 Cigar Shaped or Fast Sherical UAP clip 15 OCT 22 L 'fat' should be 'fast' (AARO also misspells 'Sherical') 5. Spherical UAP erratic movement remix (RUST), 2022 PR054 Spherical UAP Erratic movement [CALLSIGN] (Mission) 2022 6. Spherical UAP over AFG in and out of clouds, 11/23/20 PR055 Spherical UAP over AFG in and out of clouds 23 Nov 2020 7. Spherical UAP pulsing over water Jacker 2X PR056 Spherical UAP pulsing over water [CALLSIGN] callsign 'Jacker 2X' 8. Spherical UAP in clouds PR057a Spherical UAP in clouds = PR057b: same DVIDS asset 1007720 9. Voodoo 4X (Cranberry) UAP PR058 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) UAP callsign 'Voodoo 4X (Cranberry)' 10. NGA UAP, 6/1/10 PR059 NAG UAP 1 Jun 20 L 'NGA'->'NAG'; date 6/1/10 should be 6/1/20 (metadata = 2020-06-01) 11. Spherical UAP Warlock 4X, 4/12/21 (Video 0,1,2) PR060 PR061 PR062 PR063 Spherical UAP [CALLSIGN] 2021/04/12 (obj 2 / vid 0 / vid 1 / vid 2) 4 clips; '(Video 0,1,2)'=PR061/062/063, PR060='obj 2'. Iraq 12. AFSOC Kabul UAP, 2017 PR064 AFSOC Kabul UAP Jul 2017 13. USCG C-144 UAP 2 Tic Tac IR hot, 4/24/24 PR065 USCG C-144 Tyndall UAP 2 TIC TAC IR hot 24 April 2024 the 'UAP 2' clip 14. USCG C-144 UAP 2 Tic Tac IR hot, 4/24/24 PR066 USCG C-144 Tyndall UAP 1 TIC TAC IR hot 24 April 2024 L Luna repeats 'UAP 2'; PR066 is 'UAP 1' 15. Multiple Spherical UAP USO near Sub. Cactus 1X in and out of water, 3/25/22 PR067 Multiple Spherical UAP USO near Sub. [CALLSIGN] 2022/03/25 in and out of water callsign 'Cactus 1X' 16. IIR 1 666 SO151 23 video footage of UAP captured by fifth generation aircraft, 1/20/23 PR068 IIR 1 666 S0151 23/...UAP captured by fifth generation aircraft on 20 Jan 23 'SO151' vs 'S0151' (O vs 0); date matches title 17. F-18 FLIR UAP PR069 F/A-18 FLIR UAP 18. IIR 1 665 SO301 23/Eglin AFB PR070 IIR 1 655 S0301 23/Eglin AFB Aircrew Observed UAP on 13 Feb 23 L 'IIR 1 665' should be '655' (cf. PR073) 19. USAF ANG F-16C (callsign AESIR11) shoots down UAP over Lake Huron with Aim-9X, 2/12/23 PR071 USAF ANG F-16C (callsign [CALLSIGN]) Shoots Down UAP over Lake Huron with [Weapon System], 12 Feb 2023 Luna reveals callsign 'AESIR11' + weapon 'Aim-9X'; Lake Huron shootdown 20. Administrative revision: IIR 1777 J0032 22 Kazakhstan – UAP in vicinity of Karaganda International Airport PR072 ADMINISTRATIVE REVISION: IIR 1777 J0032 22 Kazakhstan - UAP in the vicinity of Karaganda International Airport 21. IIR 1 655 S0053 23/ Several UAP in vicinity of Columbus OH airport PR073 IIR 1 655 S0053 23/Several UAP Encountered In The Vicinity of Columbus OH 22. MQ-9 observer UAP in East China Sea, 1/5/23 PR057b [Platform] Observes UAP in East China Sea 05 JAN 2023 INDOPACOM = PR057a: same DVIDS asset 1007720; platform 'MQ-9' 23. Assault 1X (steel) HD_20220613, 6/13/22 PR074 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) HD_20220613 callsign 'Assault 1X (steel)' 24. EP-3 Observed UAP in the ECS, 6/9/21 PR075 09JUN2021 [Platform] observed UAP in the ECS platform 'EP-3' 25. Lightning (Lavendar) observes UAP, 1/3/21 PR076 03 January 2021 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) observes UAP 'Lightning (Lavendar)' 26. Hackney 6 (Toxic 6) observes and tracks UAP, 11/2/20 (video 1,2) PR077 PR078 2 November 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] Observes and tracks UAP (1 of 2 / 2 of 2) 27. Toxic 6 (Mercury) observes 3 fast moving UAPs, 10/29/20 PR079 29 October 2020 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) observes 3 fast moving UAPs 28. Toxic 6 (Hackney 6) observes UAPs, 10/20/20 PR080 20 October 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP 29. Greed observes UAP, 10/18/20 PR081 18 Oct 2020 [CALLSIGN] observes UAP 30. Greed observes UAP, 10/16/20 PR082 16 OCT 2020 [CALLSIGN] views UAP 31. Mad Dog 31 observes UAP, 10/17/20 PR083 7 October 2020 [CALLSIGN] observes UAP ? AARO date = 7 Oct 2020; Luna 10/17 matches neither 83 nor 84; callsign redacted 32. Regulator 73 observes UAP, 10/17/20 PR084 17 Sept 2020 [CALLSIGN] observes UAP ? AARO date = 17 Sep 2020; Luna says 10/17/20; callsign redacted 33. Toxic 6 (Hackney 6) observes UAP, 9/16/20 PR085 16 Sept 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] observes UAP 34. UAP on East Coast, 12/1/19 PR086 UAP from Dec 2019 (East Coast) 35. Toxic 6 UAP, 9/5/20 PR087 05 September 2020 [CALLSIGN] UAP 36. Toxic 6 (Hackney6) observes UAP, 8/31/20 (video 1,2) PR088 PR089 31 AUG [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP (+ part2) 37. Hellhound 1X (Coffee) observes UAP, 8/24/20 PR090 24 AUG 2020 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) Observes UAP 'Hellhound 1X (Coffee)'; Egypt Nile Delta 38. Toxic 6 observes UAP in Persian Gulf, 8/21/20 PR091 21 AUG [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP in Persian Gulf 39. Hackney 6 (Toxic 6) UAP observation, 8/8/20 PR092 08 AUG 2020 [CALLSIGN] [CALLSIGN] UAP observation 40. Hackney 6 (MQ-9) Gulf of Arabia dual UAP, 5/5/20 PR093 May 05 2020 Gulf of Arabia [CALLSIGN] (Platform) Dual UAP PR093 = 30s clip 41. Hackney 5X (mint) HD 2020-02-13, 2/13/20 PR094 [CALLSIGN] (Mission) - HD 2020-02-13 'Hackney 5X (mint)' 42. Hackney 6 (MQ-9) UAP in Persian Gulf, 5/20/20 PR095 May 05 2020 Gulf of Arabia [CALLSIGN] (Platform) Dual UAP ? AARO title copied from PR093 (5 May 2020); Luna says '5/20/20 Persian Gulf'. Unresolved which is right. PR095 = 288s clip 43. HH-11 UAPs, 7/3/18 PR096 HH11 03 July 2018 UAPs 44. Hi-Res: Hackney 4X observes UAP at 2135Z, 9/25/19 PR097 Hi-Res: [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP on 25SEP19 at 2135Z 45. UFOs in formation over Persian Gulf PR098 UFOs in formation over Persian Gulf? 46. Hi-Res: Hackney 4X observes UAPs at 1715Z, 9/23/19 PR099 Hi-Res: [CALLSIGN] Observes UAP on 25SEP19 at 1715Z A AARO title says 25SEP19 but AARO metadata = 2019-09-23, matching Luna. AARO title typo, not Luna's
Sources: AARO uap-data.csv + DVIDS metadata (incident dates, durations, asset IDs). PR057a/PR057b = one DVIDS asset (1007720) under two titles. PR093/PR095 = two distinct assets (30s/288s) AARO titled identically.
I recently again tried get some understanding of what people think Grusch is referring to with this term on Reddit and I ran into this Reddit user who says they were a Navy submariner for 10yrs and also claims that it was common for sonar operators to call marine life that was appearing on the sonar (I imagine whales etc) "unknown biologics""Biologics". To repeat a point made elsewhere, a "UFO scene" person talking about something in the context of biological science using a word that is already in widespread use in biological science with a completely different, fairly well-defined meaning.
Indicating they haven't liaised with any biologists, geneticists or relevant medical professionals to get their views about such an extraordinary claim.
If a government or government agency has access to, or evidence of, alien organisms, it is likely they would want to study them.
It would make sense to employ at least a few highly competent biologists, perhaps medical doctors (perhaps zoologists, veterinaries?)
Those professionals are not going to use the term "biologic" for an extraterrestrial organism; "biologic" is already part of their vocabulary:
"Biologics (Biologic Medicine)", Cleveland Clinic website https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/biologics-biologic-medicine;External Quote:Biologics are medications that come from living organisms, like proteins and genes. ...Biologic drugs are harder and more expensive to produce than normal drugs. But they may one day treat previously untreatable conditions, including cancers, genetic disorders and autoimmune diseases
"Biologics articles from across Nature Portfolio", Nature Portfolio (publisher of Nature, other journals); https://www.nature.com/subjects/biologicsExternal Quote:A biologic is a therapeutic substance that is produced through a biological process (often involving biotechnology methods), rather than chemical synthesis (as for traditional pharmaceuticals). Types of biologic include antibody therapies, vaccines, gene therapies and cell therapies.
Also "'What Are "Biologics" Questions and Answers", US Food and Drug Administration https://www.fda.gov/about-fda/cente...cber/what-are-biologics-questions-and-answers;
Which raises the question, where did "biologics" come from, in the UFO narrative use of the term?
Because it is extremely unlikely it would have come from anyone who might realistically have been chosen to actually study the anatomy and physiology of a real extraterrestrial organism.
Across science, in medicine (and in the military for that matter) the use of clearly-defined, mutually understood terms is a cornerstone.
Frankly, I suspect "biologic" is a bit of pseudoscientific jargon, chosen because it sounds sciency and to get away from "ETs" and "aliens", which might be evocative of film franchises to many people.
I doubt there is any factual basis for the use of this term being used in a real study of aliens or alien cadavers anywhere on Earth now or in the past.
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Note, Gaetz says "interracial alien mating". Immature pulp horror stuff. Made me shudder.
"Interracial" is presumably meant to mean "interspecies".
External Quote:In naval terms if you heard someone talking about "unknown biologics", it would mean the local marine life is being noisy on sonar.
I don't have any experience in aeronautics, but it's not much of a stretch to assume they might classify radar returns from, say, a large group of migratory birds in a similar way.
This would indicate that the term is in use in the Navy with SONAR operatorsExternal Quote:I am completely sure, yes. I was a submariner for close to a decade.
For reference, the sonar techs are the only group usually listening to sonar, while the rest of control would only have the visual plots available. Sometimes marine life can look visually similar on sonar to something we'd like to avoid, like a ship, so if for instance Officer Jimmy is curious as to what that thing on the plot is, because he wants to turn toward it, or it looks like it's moving toward us, he'd say "Sonar, Officer Jimmy, what's that thing at bearing X?", and Sonar would reply, Officer Jimmy, Sonar, biologics".
External Quote:Tracking biologics was the best part of the job.
However the possibility that it is in use in military circles as slang/jargon for anything from nature (rain, animals, maybe even underwater volcanos etc) might be some reason for it to be part of Mr. Grusch's vocabulary, however it does not excuse the lack of precision nor the lack of any questioning from journalists to clarify his meaning.External Quote:
I was an STS on a Trident. You can hear lots of sounds. You learn what various biologics sound like. Rain makes a good bit of noise.
It's pretty hard to hear stuff through the hull because of the insulation on the inside of the hull to prevent condensation.
We spend hours in training listening to all sorts of stuff learning how to identify it.
If I recall correctly, the term "biologics" was used in that way by the sonar operator in the movie "The Hunt for Red October", which came out in 1990. It was also explained by the subsequent comment "Whales humping?"This would indicate that the term is in use in the Navy with SONAR operators
The problem is Grusch using the term in a seemingly ambiguous way, why choose that word, numerous times? He clearly does not mean pharmacological products.If I recall correctly, the term "biologics" was used in that way by the sonar operator in the movie "The Hunt for Red October", which came out in 1990. It was also explained by the subsequent comment "Whales humping?"
It's also been noted (somewhere in the threads on Grusch) that "biologics" might also be used in connection with something like the engine of a plane that sucked in a bird.
I realize that neither is "correct" in your analysis, but to non-biologists and non-pharmacologists, the use of the word in that discipline is the one that sounds unusual, no matter what the dictionary says. But does it really matter? It seems unlikely that one usage would be confused with the other, nor one subject with the other.
It also is improbable that the speech habits of a population would be corrected. After all, a dictionary definition is descriptive, not prescriptive. I've given up on the common use of the word "organic" to describe a fruit or vegetable that's defined by its history rather than its composition!![]()
"Submariner" is not the same thing as "sub designer". The guy on the inside may not know what's on the outside.Going off-topic a bit, but
This seems a very strange thing for a submariner to say. Sod the anti-condensation measures, what about the vessel's covering of intensively-researched anechoic tiles, deliberately designed to diminish sound transmission?
Anechoic tiles, Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_tile
The anechoic tiles are great in preventing/reducing return echos from the hull. It might not be so great in preventing transmission from the out to the inside.Going off-topic a bit, but
This seems a very strange thing for a submariner to say. Sod the anti-condensation measures, what about the vessel's covering of intensively-researched anechoic tiles, deliberately designed to diminish sound transmission?
Anechoic tiles, Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_tile
The anechoic tiles are great in preventing/reducing return echos from the hull. It might not be so great in preventing transmission from the out to the inside.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_tileExternal Quote:
Their function is twofold:
- To absorb the sound waves of active sonar, reducing and distorting the return signal, thereby reducing its effective range.
- To attenuate the sounds emitted from the vessel, typically its engines, to reduce the range at which it can be detected by passive sonar.
It starts to become another UFO lore word, like orb. It has a real meaning and now seemingly also a slang/jargon meaning both of which doesn't really apply to his seeming intent, but it now marks the further usage as nod/wink to the standard UFO canon. 'Biologics' starts to now mean alien bodies without having to say alien bodies. Like orb means "alien spacecraft/sentient plasma/ghost" without having to say those things.
Yes I know, but I said "from the out to the inside". But you are right, the direction probably does not matter.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_tileExternal Quote:
Their function is twofold:
- To absorb the sound waves of active sonar, reducing and distorting the return signal, thereby reducing its effective range.
- To attenuate the sounds emitted from the vessel, typically its engines, to reduce the range at which it can be detected by passive sonar.
Submarine crews implementing drills to reduce noise caused by their own activity has been a thing since at least WW2, see e.g. the German drama Das Boot. As well as reducing sonar returns, anechoic tiles are effective sound insulators.