Efftup
Senior Member.
Or get fake ID's
Advocating violence against "Chemtrail" planes, pilots, scientists, and debunkers
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TEEJ
Senior Member.
What is he trying to do now? Has the Rocket Launcher question post been removed by Facebook? Is he trying to spin it that he didn't make the post?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChemtrailHypernetwork/permalink/909826245694873/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChemtrailHypernetwork/permalink/909826245694873/
Jay Reynolds
Senior Member.
Yesterday I visited Sylvain's radiothon prep page and offered to speak about the threats and how such a violent outcome could be avoided. My intent was to advocate that his folks begin a concerted crowd sourced campaign to identify the planes they see as ordinary passenger planes as previously explained here:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/14-years-of-chemtrails-comments-and-suggestions.100/
Sylvain Henry rejected my suggestion. He doesn't want his cohorts to know. He gains power over others by maintaining the status quo and rejects a logical solution which would make progress away from a violent outcome and instead is guiding his sheep towards a tragic conclusion. We have previously spoken over the phone about this and he eventually banned me from participating on his Facebook group.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/14-years-of-chemtrails-comments-and-suggestions.100/
Sylvain Henry rejected my suggestion. He doesn't want his cohorts to know. He gains power over others by maintaining the status quo and rejects a logical solution which would make progress away from a violent outcome and instead is guiding his sheep towards a tragic conclusion. We have previously spoken over the phone about this and he eventually banned me from participating on his Facebook group.
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JRBids
Senior Member
M Bornong
Senior Member.
I don't think the post was removed by facebook, after I posted the threat here, I posted the link to this page under his poll. It didn't take him long to remove the post, block me from his page, and make his "retraction"
TEEJ
Senior Member.
Thanks for the reply. Well done for your post on his group! At least it has been a wake up call for him and quite amusing that he had to make a "No violent or aggressive suggestions" post.
Hevach
Senior Member.
Apparently there's another deep end off the deep end? Or it's just deep ends all the way down. This is just such a bag of cats you don't know where to start.
Hama Neggs
Senior Member
Did you tell him, specifically, that you intended to explain how to ID planes? If so, he is a lost cause.
TEEJ
Senior Member.
"Violent Options" has been added to the poll.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChemtrailHypernetwork/permalink/910826425594855/?qa_ref=qd
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChemtrailHypernetwork/permalink/910826425594855/?qa_ref=qd
Ray Von Geezer
Senior Member
And "Learn science and meteorology to realise that this hoax is impossible" has been removed.
Ray Von
M Bornong
Senior Member.
I just saw that, beat me to it. I guess he thinks it's okay, since he's just curious.
NoParty
Senior Member.
Yeah, well, if y'all ever actually produced any real, serious, evidence that could withstand any
sober scrutiny, and was worthy of being using in a courtroom, your "movement" (and I use the term broadly)
probably wouldn't just sadly stagger on year after year after year...not taken seriously but by yourselves...
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Efftup
Senior Member.
you mean it was actually ever there in the first place? Astounding!!!!
Jay Reynolds
Senior Member.
In several phone conversations in November 2013 I explained that was the best contribution his group could make towards peace and a resolution, I told him that he could personally identify the planes and explained how to do it.
This weekend Sylvain invited the public to suggest names of people who could be interviewed during his radiothon.
I suggested myself and offered to speak about the violent threats and how a bad outcome could be avoided. I wasn't able to get into specifics on his google doc but Sylvain immediately rejected me. He does know that I consider him a hypocrite and consider him to personally be a lost cause but I did make the offer in good faith.
Ray Von Geezer
Senior Member
When I first viewed the page after M Bornong had posted it, it was shown under "view more options" (and had +1 vote).
It's only when I've seen TEEJ's further posting that I've realised that page members can add options to the poll, so I suspect the "Learn science and meteorology" option was added by someone else.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt, he may not have added the "Rocket launchers" and "Violent options" personally?
Ray Von
M Bornong
Senior Member.
I found it a bit ironic that Sylvain added this disclaimer within minutes of TEEJ's post
https://archive.today/kRf57
M Bornong
Senior Member.
We were posting at the same time.
For the record, as far as this mornings post, https://archive.today/kRf57 , the one like was from, Kim Monson, https://www.facebook.com/KimInMinn?fref=ufi . I did look at that, sorry I don't have a screen shot. She is still a member, she was not removed.
This one is particularly distasteful:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/290971927776851/permalink/329700473903996/
This photo is taken from Wikipedia: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MAFFS_loading_into_a_C-130_080623-F-7564C-071.JPG
It shows a Modular Airborne Fire-Fighting System (MAFFS) being loaded into a C-130 Hercules.
The reason the comment is very distasteful is that this exact aircraft, ANG31458, crashed in 2012 while fighting fires in South Dakota, with the loss of four lives.
http://www.wbtv.com/story/22732740/maffs-7-crew-honored-one-year-after-deadly-c-130-crash
https://www.facebook.com/groups/290971927776851/permalink/329700473903996/
This photo is taken from Wikipedia: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MAFFS_loading_into_a_C-130_080623-F-7564C-071.JPG
It shows a Modular Airborne Fire-Fighting System (MAFFS) being loaded into a C-130 Hercules.
The reason the comment is very distasteful is that this exact aircraft, ANG31458, crashed in 2012 while fighting fires in South Dakota, with the loss of four lives.
http://www.wbtv.com/story/22732740/maffs-7-crew-honored-one-year-after-deadly-c-130-crash
Yes there is so much ignorance on that thread. "Charlotte" is of course not the name of the plane but the location of the Air National Guard base in North Carolina.
And flags on vehicles are supposed to face with the hoist side towards the front of the vehicle.
Chris Bowen
New Member
That's it. Marginalize whenever possible. Keep the disinfo flowing. Afterall, that's what you are being paid for.
WeedWhacker
Senior Member
There are over 1400 posts of specific examples. The "marginalization" is certainly NOT coming from this website.
The posts that show as evidence of the sort of vitriol that exists against innocent people is quite obvious. Sorry. Perhaps a few hours' perusal will show this to be true.
JRBids
Senior Member
This is a new group.
"Execute all chemtrail pilots on the grounds of high treason"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/426876907461528/
Here's the admin.
https://www.facebook.com/gary.cameron.3154?fref=pb_other
"Execute all chemtrail pilots on the grounds of high treason"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/426876907461528/
Here's the admin.
https://www.facebook.com/gary.cameron.3154?fref=pb_other
Efftup
Senior Member.
I don't suppose you have anything to back that comment up?
If you have some proof that I am being paid to post on this site, or anywhere else, then I would like you to produce it.
I would also like you to investigate why the money isn't actually reaching my bank account. I could really do with paying my overdraft off.
WeedWhacker
Senior Member
Regarding Post #1428 above, and the very first posted image?
I see that as possibly a portion of one panel from an MD-11. I base this (admitted guess) on the fact that most modern airliners being built today are either "twin-jets"...or have four engines.
The MD-11 is a variation of the older DC-10...BOTH just about the same, except for some added components into the MD-11 cockpit design and lay-out which eliminated the "third" pilot, or "Flight Engineer". It was a way to better 'automate' many systems that were historically "managed" by the 'F/E'.
Now, having explained? Looking again at that image snippet? I see a portion of an Electrical Panel....every button and indicator there is clear to me, as a pilot.
(Editing to add...that portion of image may, or may not be from a 3-engine airplane...the only other idea, as I search for 3-engine airplanes, built recently in the USA, is the possible "re-vamp" of the B-727 into a two-person flight deck concept....IF it was cropped on the right...had another look, seems not to have been cropped)...
...the second image in Post #1428? Once again, it might be a mis-use of images of fire-fighting airplanes, and the tanks that they carry for that purpose.
I see that as possibly a portion of one panel from an MD-11. I base this (admitted guess) on the fact that most modern airliners being built today are either "twin-jets"...or have four engines.
The MD-11 is a variation of the older DC-10...BOTH just about the same, except for some added components into the MD-11 cockpit design and lay-out which eliminated the "third" pilot, or "Flight Engineer". It was a way to better 'automate' many systems that were historically "managed" by the 'F/E'.
Now, having explained? Looking again at that image snippet? I see a portion of an Electrical Panel....every button and indicator there is clear to me, as a pilot.
(Editing to add...that portion of image may, or may not be from a 3-engine airplane...the only other idea, as I search for 3-engine airplanes, built recently in the USA, is the possible "re-vamp" of the B-727 into a two-person flight deck concept....IF it was cropped on the right...had another look, seems not to have been cropped)...
...the second image in Post #1428? Once again, it might be a mis-use of images of fire-fighting airplanes, and the tanks that they carry for that purpose.
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Efftup
Senior Member.
Oh how could it POSSIBLY be that?
EVERYONE knows that super secret spray tanks are always exhibited where anybody can stand there witrh a good quality camera and take photos, just like the guy in the picture is doing!!!
I want a sarcasm smiley.
JRBids
Senior Member
Oh how could it POSSIBLY be that?
EVERYONE knows that super secret spray tanks are always exhibited where anybody can stand there witrh a good quality camera and take photos, just like the guy in the picture is doing!!!
I want a sarcasm smiley.
AND they wear patches proclaiming they're on "Team Chemtrail".
JRBids
Senior Member
I couldn't get a shot of the whole image without making the whole thing too small. Here is it. The old chemtrail switch.
WeedWhacker
Senior Member
Ahhhh....I missed that the first time.
AS I LOOK AT THIS PANEL AGAIN? I am thinking it is a FedEx MD-11 derivation.
I draw the viewer's attention to the portion of the panel BELOW the Electrical portion.
(This would be the "Pneumatics/Air Conditioning" part)....you can see the three Pack switches....the three Bleed Air switches....but most importantly, the two (visible) knobs labelled "COURIER" and "CARGO"....the knob not visible, above....out-of-frame on the left would be labelled "FLIGHT DECK". (or, abbreviated to "FLT DECK"...or "COCKPIT"). These designations are often up to the buyer, as to exact wording.
** Did some more research....the mis-labeled switch on that MD-11 Forward Overhead panel is the Smoke Detection switch:
[img=[url]https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/cecd211ed50abbb6ddfc4462ff3cf5c1.jpg[/img][/url]
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WeedWhacker
Senior Member
Lemme try this again....the image is:
A bit hard to 'zero-in' on perhaps, but I am sure many members here have the capability to enhance and see.
Mods? Something about a ?MetaBunk Mirror Cache? is affecting my ability to properly post this image.
...here is a direct url:
http://www.precisionmanuals.com/img/product/lightbox/md11/07_OVERHEAD_ANNUN_TEST.jpg
A bit hard to 'zero-in' on perhaps, but I am sure many members here have the capability to enhance and see.
Mods? Something about a ?MetaBunk Mirror Cache? is affecting my ability to properly post this image.
...here is a direct url:
http://www.precisionmanuals.com/img/product/lightbox/md11/07_OVERHEAD_ANNUN_TEST.jpg
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Strawman
Active Member
FYI: I have just reported that group for threats of violence.
Ross Marsden
Senior Member.
Several people have reported that group, and Facebook have taken no action as it apparently does not meet the required standard... level of explicit threat, presumably.
I reported them and they rejected it. I don't get it. The title is pretty explicit.
Hevach
Senior Member.
I'm really not sure what level of threat is required. There's a group called "Shut Down Ocean Odyssey" (renamed from "Burn Down Ocean Odyssey" and later "Destroy Ocean Odyssey" after police involvement). The owner of the group posted pictures of himself outside the pet shop with a gun and the text, "Just working up the courage to go inside and shoot [actual name of an employee]." The employee named reported it, the owner of the pet shop reported it, and I reported it as I owned a shop in the same building and that's bad for business.
Facebook said the post was not a violation.
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