USS Omaha "Transmedium" Sphere Descending To the Sea

[jarlrmai]

They will never FOIA release extra video these vids are all leaks for a reason.

 

[jackfrostvc]

They will never FOIA release extra video these vids are all leaks for a reason.

Jeremy said he was able to release it as it was unclassified.
Whether you care to believe that is up to you.

But it is definatly worth trying to get the full uncut version of the video (if it exists) via FOIA

 

[DavidB66]

In my comment at #20 above I was forgetting that air is a poor radiator of heat, even if it is hot, so the air would not show up in IR as hot. Whereas the surface of a balloon at ambient air temperature would radiate heat better than the air itself, the exact amount depending on the material of the surface So the object might still be a balloon. That's not to say it is, but a lot of people online are dismissing a balloon out of hand because they made the same mistake as I did.

 

[jarlrmai]

Look at the sea

In my comment at #20 above I was forgetting that air is a poor radiator of heat, even if it is hot, so the air would not show up in IR as hot. Whereas the surface of a balloon at ambient air temperature would radiate heat better than the air itself, the exact amount depending on the material of the surface So the object might still be a balloon. That's not to say it is, but a lot of people online are dismissing a balloon out of hand because they made the same mistake as I did.

Also note that patches of the sea are the same black level as the object.

 

[jackfrostvc]

Here is the weather for San Clemente Island on July 15-16 2019
Temps are in Degrees C

 

[deirdre]

Jeremy said he was able to release it as it was unclassified.
Whether you care to believe that is up to you.

But it is definatly worth trying to get the full uncut version of the video (if it exists) via FOIA

You can pretty much trust that if The Black Vault can't get it, then it is exempt from FOIA disclosure.

 

[jackfrostvc]

You can pretty much trust that if The Black Vault can't get it, then it is exempt from FOIA disclosure.

Did he try to get it?

If so, do you have a link to where he said he tried?

 

[HurricaneFighterPlane]

Aren't you guys finding it strange that the military is so fast in confirming these leaks?

 

[Jayne Miller]

Did he try to get it?

If so, do you have a link to where he said he tried?

John's email chain where he tries to gets points clarified by Susan Gough is here: https://www.theblackvault.com/docum...aked-ufo-images-pentagon-declines-to-comment/ if that helps!

 

[jackfrostvc]

Aren't you guys finding it strange that the military is so fast in confirming these leaks?

The Black Vault commented on that a while back. Gough I think said they introduced a new policy to confirm these things quickly.
I'm vague on the reason now, may have been something like to reduce speculation and in turn an avalanche of on going FOIA requests.
I'll have to look up John tweets about it to re-cap the details

 

[jackfrostvc]

John's email chain where he tries to gets points clarified by Susan Gough is here: https://www.theblackvault.com/docum...aked-ufo-images-pentagon-declines-to-comment/ if that helps!

Yeah, I think that email trail he talks about is more him trying to clarify legitimacy of things rather than any requests for the Omaha video, which hadn't come out yet at that time.

 

[deirdre]

Did he try to get it?

If so, do you have a link to where he said he tried?

if i was following him on this ufo i would have linked it, that's why i said "you can trust". you can fill out FOI requests online... why dont you give it a shot.

 

[jackfrostvc]

if i was following him on this ufo i would have linked it, that's why i said "you can trust". you can fill out FOI requests online... why dont you give it a shot.

I would, but is it open to non US citizens?

 

[Jayne Miller]

I would, but is it open to non US citizens?

"Any person can file a FOIA request, including U.S. citizens, foreign nationals, organizations, universities, businesses, and state and local governments. Federal employees may not use government time or equipment when requesting information under the FOIA."
Source: https://www.usda.gov/oascr/foia-frequently-asked-questions#file_request

 

[Alphadunk]

This becomes more and more ridiculous. It is obvious from the audio that it is some mundane task and they know what is about to happen. And certainly no warp drives were used here.

What makes you say that? Anyone working in the CIC would be trained well enough to remain calm and continue to follow protocol no matter what is happening. They obviously weren't in any danger so their demeanor and actions seem entirely logical given what they were seeing. Really the only thing out of character is that someone was recording a screen inside the CIC on their phone. Presumably this only happened because they truly didn't know what they were looking at and planned to report it as a UAP sighting.

This is a good video. There is really no immediately obvious explanation which is a nice change of pace for this hobby.

 

[jackfrostvc]

That's weird. Just noticed in the video they say the wind is blowing at 31 Knotts or 57Km/h

But the weather for that day says the wind only went up to 15Km/h

They were west of San Clemente Island , but I can't see there being that much of a difference

Source: https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@5391801/historic?month=7&year=2019

 

[DavidB66]

Twitter user @5X5_News has drawn attention to Boundary Layer Pressurized Balloons (BLPBs) as a possible culprit in the USS Omaha case. This site gives a general description and a history of notable uses of BLPBs:

https://www.lmd.polytechnique.fr/BAMED/HISTOIRE/BP_Techno.php

In size and performance characteristics this seems quite a good match. (I am assuming that Corbell's figure for 'minimum 6 feet in diameter' is correct. It is not clear what this is based on, or even if it refers specifically to the object in the video at all.) Obviously this doesn't work if it is going against the wind.

I wondered if anyone had an idea of the distance of the horizon in the video. Some people have assumed that like other Navy 'UAP' videos the footage was taken from a plane, which might imply a very distant horizon, but if it was taken from on board the Omaha - from the deck, the superstructure, or from whatever the radar pylon is called - the viewpoint is probably no more than 150 feet above the water, which would give a horizon of less than 20 miles. (I couldn't find any figures for the height of the ship's structures, but in photos the maximum height seems to be about 1/3 the length of the ship, which is given as 418 feet.) This does raise the possibility that the object is our old friend a distant helicopter, hovering and then descending below the horizon.

 

[jarlrmai]

That's weird. Just noticed in the video they say the wind is blowing at 31 Knotts or 57Km/h

But the weather for that day says the wind only went up to 15Km/h

They were west of San Clemente Island , but I can't see there being that much of a difference

View attachment 44353

Source: https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@5391801/historic?month=7&year=2019

They were 90km away at sea, weather can be pretty different out in the open seas.

 

[JMartJr]

That's weird. Just noticed in the video they say the wind is blowing at 31 Knotts or 57Km/h

But the weather for that day says the wind only went up to 15Km/h

Might that be wind speed across the ship? That would be combining the vector of true wind with that of the ship making way, and could be higher or lower than true wind speed.

 

[Easy Muffin]

There's a NOAA buoy about 10 nm from the position given earlier in this thread, station 46047.
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov

#YY  MM DD hh mm WDIR WSPD GST  WVHT   DPD   APD MWD   PRES  ATMP  WTMP  DEWP  VIS  TIDE
#yr  mo dy hr mn degT m/s  m/s     m   sec   sec degT   hPa  degC  degC  degC   mi    ft
2019 07 16 05 00 313  8.7 10.5 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.2  17.3  17.2  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 05 10 315  8.7 10.7 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.2  17.2  17.3  15.6 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 05 20 314  8.8 10.8 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.2  17.2  17.3  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 05 30 314  9.3 11.3 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.2  17.2  17.4  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 05 40 315  9.4 11.5  2.03  7.69  6.06 315 1012.1  17.2  17.4  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 05 50 314  9.8 12.0 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.0  17.1  17.4  15.6 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 06 00 313  9.9 11.6 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.0  17.1  17.4  15.6 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 06 10 315  9.8 12.8 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.1  17.1  17.4  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 06 20 312  9.3 11.5 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.0  17.1  17.4  15.8 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 06 30 311 10.2 12.3 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1012.0  17.0  17.4  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 06 40 309 10.0 12.0  2.13 16.00  5.96 183 1012.0  17.0  17.4  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 06 50 310 10.0 11.8 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1011.8  17.0  17.4  15.7 99.0 99.00
2019 07 16 07 00 308 10.2 12.4 99.00 99.00 99.00 999 1011.8  17.0  17.3  15.7 99.0 99.00

99 I reckon indicates that no measurement was taken. For conversion, 1 m/s = 1.9 kts.

 

[jarlrmai]

So 20kts gusts to 24kts at sea level. 2 meter waves

 

[jackfrostvc]

Yea, so around 20Kts.

But in the video they say 31Knts sustained wind with gusts to 40Kts

Big difference

 

[jarlrmai]

There could be a localised depression or squall. Is there some narrative I am unaware of for an extraordinary explanation justified by the weather?

 

[jackfrostvc]

There could be a localised depression or squall. Is there some narrative I am unaware of for an extraordinary explanation justified by the weather?

We are just trying to gather facts. What the discrepancy means, I don't know.
Could it be a piece of a puzzle later on, maybe, who knows

 

[HurricaneFighterPlane]

What makes you say that? Anyone working in the CIC would be trained well enough to remain calm and continue to follow protocol no matter what is happening. They obviously weren't in any danger so their demeanor and actions seem entirely logical given what they were seeing. Really the only thing out of character is that someone was recording a screen inside the CIC on their phone. Presumably this only happened because they truly didn't know what they were looking at and planned to report it as a UAP sighting.

This is a good video. There is really no immediately obvious explanation which is a nice change of pace for this hobby.

Their words make it look like they knew what they are looking at. There were not WTFs and such. Looks like they were expecting it to splash.

Of course that is not a proof or anything. Just saying that it is suspicious, especially when you add the "pyramid UFO" video and the fast confirmation that the current leak is authentic.

Looks like the pilots skipped the "Keep calm" training, because they were overly excited in the GOFAST video. Not buying it, really.

 

[jarlrmai]

https://forecast.weather.gov/glossary.php?word=WDIR

WDIR On a buoy report, wind direction (the direction the wind is coming from in degrees clockwise from true N) during the same period used for WSPD.

So wind directly from the NW

What do we think this reading is Azimuth of camera relative to the ship and to North?

It goes from 15 degrees to 42 degrees from 0:00 to 00:26 then after the cut in time it is back at lower numbers.

 

[jarlrmai]

Might be a stretch but I wonder if the image is coming from a Phalanx Thermal Imager on the CIWS

https://www.leonardodrs.com/media/12195/pti_datasheet.pdf

Or could be from

https://www.seaforces.org/usnships/lcs/Independence-class.htm

 

[Oklahomeless]

Jeremy said he was able to release it as it was unclassified.
Whether you care to believe that is up to you.

But it is definatly worth trying to get it (if it exists) via FOIA

I trust UFO media to release anything worth knowing.

You can pretty much trust that if The Black Vault can't get it, then it is exempt from FOIA disclosure.

I typed the identical sentiment above last night and it looks like I didn't hit "reply".
I trust UFO media to extract these FOAI's. It's possible some of them may withhold data against their narrative but, as a whole, they're on top of this.

 

[jarlrmai]

All the SeaFLIR II AN/KAX-2 footage I can find has a different HUD.

 

[Mick West]

This is the start of the video, with the object stabilized, and a dark region of the ocean tracked.

It's pretty obvious the apparent motion is just camera motion, if you are used to looking for such things. However it's fooled a bunch of people, and will likely fool millions more - simply because that's the impression you get from the video. Even with this stabilized version, the illusion still remains somewhat.

 

[Robert Sheaffer]

edit coords and other text from the video as far as I can tell

32° 29.118' N 119° 20.177' W

16-??-2019 - So not 15th?

Could 7 be white on black to distinguish it from 1? It isn't elsewhere?

Also date in EU/UK format on a US ship?
Time 05:53 not 11PM

Also LRF no return (Laser Range Finder?)

Crosshair pattern changes similar to other military FLIR systems when in NAR mode at the end (bars on end of the crosshair)

X marker changes to solid square marker and then to box when tracked?

05:53 UTC on the 16th is 10:53 Pacific Daylight Time on the 15th.

 

[jarlrmai]

So quick calc on ship speed and direction based on co-ords and time

I figure we have fairly accurate co-ords of

32° 29.118' N 119° 20.177' W @ 05:52:572
and
32° 29.218' N 119° 21.497' W @ ~06:00

1.29 miles in 8 minutes

8.4 knots almost due west

 

[jarlrmai]

Mick, there is still drift of the object to the right though?

If this was filmed from the rear of the ship, which was moving almost due west, the wind was coming from the NW so it could be getting blown left to right and slightly away from the ship.

 

[Mick West]

Some video clip and on-screen timestamps:

00:00 / 05:52:52 - Start of video
00:27 / 05:53:19 - Last frame of first segment
00:27 / 05:59:40 - First Frame of second segment (6 minutes 21 seconds missing)
00:47 / 06:00:00 - Exactly 11PM
00:55 / 06:00:11 - Object fades out.
00:56: / 06:00:13 - Last time we see the time display on screen
01:00 / 06:00:17 (extrapolated) end of video.

 

[noahwins]

On one hand, it's remarkable these Navy videos are uniformly low resolution, black and white shots of grainy pixelated blobs taken during Naval exercises foreign adversaries would have a clear interest in surveilling with a new generation of cheap, expendable drones and observation balloons.

On the other hand, @freaklz400 and @puckhead81 on Twitter say it's obviously extraterrestrial technology, we are in the midst of some kind of vague global consciousness elevation phenomenon, and furthermore Mick West doesn't support The Troops.

So, you know, bothsides.

 

[Mick West]

I made a video, which basically summarizes some of the findings from this thread.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfiJqUHDg0

 

[jarlrmai]

Maybe a video with the crosshairs cloned out in each frame would show the movement more clearly, not sure how that is practical that is to do.

I checked the audio track waveform for obvious signs of cuts/splicing, but there's nothing sticking out.

 

[Mick West]

Maybe a video with the crosshairs cloned out in each frame would show the movement more clearly, not sure how that is practical that is to do.

It's not super hard, I did one for the locked portion. Content aware fill in Adobe After Effects.

I checked the audio track waveform for obvious signs of cuts/splicing, but there's nothing sticking out.

I think there's just the one cut.

 

[jackfrostvc]

It's not super hard, I did one for the locked portion. Content aware fill in Adobe After Effects.
View attachment 44361


I think there's just the one cut.

@Mick West Are you able to get rid of the centre box?

That way we can see the object better

 

[Peacechief]

I made a video, which basically summarizes some of the findings from this thread.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfiJqUHDg0

I noticed a difference between your example of glare shrinking and growing and what we see in the Navy video. In your example, as you begin to obscure the light source, the maximum height of the glare with respect to "sea level" is achieved when the least amount of the light source is obscured. As you continue to obscure the light source, the glare shrinks and never reaches the same height above "sea level". However, this is in contrast to what we see from the Navy footage. After the object reappears it reaches a height above sea level that was previously achieved but this time with a much smaller diameter.