Skywatcher Part I: The Journey Begins

Next up is Rogers Helicopters, another one people have said he is chief pilot for.

EDIT: Cross posted with Dave's post above.

Rogers Helicopters has a big website and claim to have a number of aircraft, including Bell 206, which appears to be the unit Barber flies Coulthart around in. They seemed to be based at the Fresno Airport, so just up the road from Barber's place:

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They also have a version of the MD-500/530 as well as some bigger Huey, Bell 212s. But this is where I get confused with aircraft companies: Who owns what? For example, I noticed a photo on the Rogers website of a Huey. Turns out its a photo of the Freson County Sherrif's office's Huey:

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So, does the Fresno Sherrif lease their Huey from Rogers Helicopters? Or is this just a generic photo of a type of helicopter Rogers has?

Again, it's very confusing. They claim to have 6 Hueys, including this photo of a black on operating it was sure looks like the Sierra Nevadas, which is where Barber and his team found the super-secret computers:

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Then there is this Huey using a long line, that has a distinctive livery:

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I've seen this paint job on Hueys and S70s, (Blackhawks) all the time during the summer. Both contract firefighting and utility work. They always seem to be based in the town of Red Bluff, which is home to PJ's Helicopters, so I assumed this 1/2 blue livery was PJ's, but it's not. Helicopters are expansive, so I guess they move them around to where the work is.
 
I posted a spreadsheet of Roger's Helicopter Bell's. I don't know if that is against the rules. This is a list of all the Bell Helicopters from Roger's from the FAA Registry. A few have not been seen on FlightAware, others long long ago, and one was fighting fires near Millerton Lake Fresno CA as close as last week with tracks in FlightWare. None of these seem to have flown in the Mojave. Just various commutes to other regional airports. One is located in Chicago. A few more photos of these.
 

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Another interesting statement they make in the video that I missed in my initial overview, it right at the end they mention that some mass sighting happened shortly after the sighting, citing a few articles about sightings near mid-August 2024. They also say

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the FAA even imposed a temporary flight restriction over the area where we ran our operation, is this causation, did we cause this event, is this correlation, or was it purely coincidental
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While showing this notice
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Looking it up, it did happen, and it was cancelled August 20 2024
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But a quick check on google maps shows that saying this was "over the area" is a bit of an overstatement.

They were 100 kms away from the restricted area, which in turn had a radius of 2 nautical miles (3.7 kilometers)
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You would think that if flight restrictions were put in place, then they would affect either of the two airports that are right next to them in Ridgecrest

I'm also not entirely certain if the travel restriction happened before, while or after they summoned the UAP, because the mass sightings seem to have happened after (the tweets they show are from the 17th). I haven't looked too deep into the mass sighting, but it also seems to have happened near Palmdale rather than Ridgecrest, so again 100km away.
 
Looking it up, it did happen, and it was cancelled August 20 2024
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But a quick check on google maps shows that saying this was "over the area" is a bit of an overstatement.

They were 100 kms away from the restricted area, which in turn had a radius of 2 nautical miles (3.7 kilometers)

I'm pretty sure these types of NOTAMs are often related to US Gov VIP's arriving or departing said airport. I could do a FOIA, but I think that is likely the reason.

I also think the SkywatcherHQ video location was just a TV production set with people trying to simulate what Barber claimed was "The Range" and the UFO psionics team. Since this location was filmed at Rockytopridgecrest.com which was located by @Calter , it's most likely only a film set and not the real location. At least that's what Jake Barber would likely say if cornered on the location.
 
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I'm pretty sure these types of NOTAMs are often related to US Gov VIP's arriving or departing said airport. I could do a FOIA, but I think that is likely the reason.

Yeah maybe. But it does look like that NOTAM is centered around the Palmdale regional airport. While it sounds like a small town airport, that's what I thought, it's surrounded by all the major defense contractors. Boeing and Northrup are on the north end, with the USAF Plant 42. I think that's were Northrup builds the B21:

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Just to the south of the airport is Lockheed's Skunk Works and NASA:

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Could there maybe all kinds of NOTAMS issued if a B21 or whatever else Northrup, Boeing and Lockheed are working on is heading out? Either way, it's still quite aways from Barber's psyonic buddies and their mystery craft.
 
SkywatcherHQ is seeking venues for a skywatching event for 50-100 people by posting on X a request for ideas to fill out a form on Google Docs. No mention of cost per person yet.

Interesting looking through the Google doc form. Nothing about one's take or views of UFO/UAPs, but lots of questions about a proposed venue. I get it's looking for someone or company that can hopefully host an event, preferably as a donation I would think. Someone with land or facilities.

Depending on when, where and cost I'd think about it. BUT I'd bring along a phone/computer with FlightAware, Flight Radar24, Stellarium, every ISS, Starlink and satellite tracking apps that exist. A tripod. Maybe a portable ADS-B receiver and anything else people here would recommend. I doubt I'd make it through the screening process.
 
SkywatcherHQ is seeking venues for a skywatching event for 50-100 people by posting on X a request for ideas to fill out a form on Google Docs. No mention of cost per person yet.

Link to Post on X:
Source: https://x.com/SkywatcherHQ/status/1886062174507868636


Link to Google Doc Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXEvtFKwvXo31c_ZltKP1S5MFMFbY-S-sFNYjZxgqbKGfytw/viewform

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Just in case it's not public or you didn't want it to be, your google account/email is present in the screenshot.
 
Interesting looking through the Google doc form. Nothing about one's take or views of UFO/UAPs, but lots of questions about a proposed venue. I get it's looking for someone or company that can hopefully host an event, preferably as a donation I would think. Someone with land or facilities.

Depending on when, where and cost I'd think about it. BUT I'd bring along a phone/computer with FlightAware, Flight Radar24, Stellarium, every ISS, Starlink and satellite tracking apps that exist. A tripod. Maybe a portable ADS-B receiver and anything else people here would recommend. I doubt I'd make it through the screening process.
Plus a couple of video cameras with a wide fields of view that can record the entire sky from event beginning to end. Cameras only turned on during "interesting moments" is a huge problem with these events, as you loose where the "object" came from, plus they always run out of film/storage just when things are winding down and you want to know where the object departed too.

And of course if you know where this event is going to be in advance you could ask friends to set up ten miles away and record events from that vantage point. You know, where the drone dropping flares took off from and things like that.
 
Just following up on the helicopter Barber is pictured with I ran a filter on the FAA active aircraft data set with the regex,

5[71LI][0OQ]

So it should match any N number ending with a 5 followed by any variation of the 'straight line' character and the 'circle' characters.

It's possible there are N number guidelines to prevent some similar looking combos.

This is the result

N-NUMBER SERIAL NUMBER
6570 64TBKAF002006P
6510 64TBKAF00200DG
1957Q 64TBK7H00100F8
3051Q 540601S


The top 3 are DJI Drones so the only helicopter that matches is the N number looked at before N3051Q and the make/model matches the aircraft pictured.
 
Interesting looking through the Google doc form. Nothing about one's take or views of UFO/UAPs, but lots of questions about a proposed venue. I get it's looking for someone or company that can hopefully host an event, preferably as a donation I would think. Someone with land or facilities.

Depending on when, where and cost I'd think about it. BUT I'd bring along a phone/computer with FlightAware, Flight Radar24, Stellarium, every ISS, Starlink and satellite tracking apps that exist. A tripod. Maybe a portable ADS-B receiver and anything else people here would recommend. I doubt I'd make it through the screening process.
I'd bring several Gen 3 NVG with tripod and phone adaptors and a IR camera and light, add in a thermal camera like a FLIR. Set up 4
Sionyx Night Vision Devices on Tripod filming the sky in 360.
 
I'd bring several Gen 3 NVG with tripod and phone adaptors and a IR camera and light, add in a thermal camera like a FLIR. Set up 4
Sionyx Night Vision Devices on Tripod filming the sky in 360.
I'd try to set up at least two cameras, preferably night vision, in a way that the observations could be triangulated. You'd need something else recognizable in shot to get the camera heading, and then record the positions of the camera as accurately as possible (take phone pics of them while it's still a bit light, getting GPS, and visual location).

Triangulation should be a major goal in such experiments.
 
Playing devil's advocate, the event is meant to last 3 days and 3 nights, it doesn't seem limited to just a night watch (unless they said so somewhere and I missed it). The UFO they summoned in the video was also during daylight.

With that said, I agree that ufo hunters go out at night too often for my liking. People already rarely recognize satellites (or even celestial bodies) as is, add to that how many more would be visible when filmed in a remote location away from cities, and they are just asking to either confuse themselves or confuse viewers that have rarely ever experienced somewhat clear skies.
 
With that said, I agree that ufo hunters go out at night too often for my liking. People already rarely recognize satellites (or even celestial bodies) as is, add to that how many more would be visible when filmed in a remote location away from cities, and they are just asking to either confuse themselves or confuse viewers that have rarely ever experienced somewhat clear skies.
This may be a feature rather than a bug... you'd like to be sure your customers SEE something. And even if using telepathy to summon UFO aliens to perform on cue for you is a real thing, unless the success rate was 100% it would be wise to at least have some satellites and distant plane lights as possible things to point to.
 
I'd be asking why we are doing this at night..

Because that's when the mysterious flying craft which don't want to announce their existence are most visible, in part due to their lights as per FAA regulations resulting from processes beyond our current understanding.

More seriously, and I won't pretend to have figures to support this, but I'd guess the majority of UFO reports, ghost sightings and assorted strange experiences happen at night, the time when our vision is impaired (cone cells predominate in the area of retina responsible for our central field of vision, and are less light-sensitive than the rod cells at the periphery).

Aside from vision, our circadian rhythms appear to support better cognitive performance in the day than at night (e.g. better attention, problem-solving).
Major employers whose businesses require nightshifts are aware that productivity is lower at night, even in well-lit environments, and errors and accidents more common:
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Although necessary, night shifts are inherently less productive by at least five per cent... The risk of injury is also elevated by as much as 30 per cent.
"Night shifts: Are they safe?", Canadian Occupational Safety, Dave Rebbitt, 13 March 2014.

[Added later: At least one study finds an association between UFO reports and night-time, in addition a correlation between "intense" (unusually detailed or strange) UFO reports and times when subjects would usually be asleep, or are sleep-deprived, has been found:

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The UFO experiences of Ss in the intense group were more frequently sleep-related than the experiences of Ss in the nonintense group.
Close Encounters: An Examination of UFO Experiences, Spanos, N.P., Cross, P.A., Dickson, K., DuBreuil, S.C., 1993, Journal of Abnormal Psychology 102 (4), PDF attached below.]

Cameras and low-light optics don't have circadian rhythms, but there have been a number of examples discussed on this forum of their imaging being misinterpreted.

I'd bring several Gen 3 NVG with tripod
Yes, stable mounts would be essential, preferably with a reliable mechanism for checking direction and elevation of view
(and the instrument properly "zeroed" to the mount).

I'm sure the Skywatchers won't want a result like the one discussed here, Twitter "Crazy UAP" Atlantic City - [Long Exposure and Camera Motion on Tracking Head]
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Without pre-judging any future Skywatch results too much, I am a bit sceptical of their operating philosophy if it involves "summoning" or "psionics", the latter clearly a pseudoscientific (or just plain science fiction) term that Jake Barber uses:

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Ross Coulthart: "And so how did the object come to land?"
Jake Barber: "I think it was invited to land by the Psyonix team."
Ross Coulthart: "Jake says his mission that night came from no accidental crash. The UAP was summoned by a separate team. A special team with special abilities. They're called psionics. What is a psionic?"
Jake Barber: "A psionic, person is someone with the predisposition for, astral. Temporal. You could say abilities and sensitivities. Extra temporal abilities. Also known as psychic powers."
News Nation, "Full Interview: Whistleblower Jake Barber", approx. 19:49 into video, posted by @Nemon here, text courtesy of @NorCal Dave here.

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In American science fiction of the 1950s and '60s, psionics was a proposed discipline that applied principles of engineering (especially electronics) to the study (and employment) of paranormal or psychic phenomena, such as extrasensory perception, telepathy and psychokinesis. The term is a blend word of psi (in the sense of "psychic phenomena") and the -onics from electronics. The word "psionics" began as, and always remained, a term of art within the science fiction community and —despite the promotional efforts of editor John W. Campbell, Jr.— it never achieved general currency, even among academic parapsychologists. In the years after the term was coined in 1951, it became increasingly evident that no scientific evidence supports the existence of "psionic" abilities.
"Psionics", Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psionics

It is unclear how "summoning" or "psionic action" are different from "wishing" or "wanting" (although Barber's explanation might mean "wishing by certain special people").
It is not clear why the genes for such an astonishingly powerful ability haven't proliferated throughout the population, in the same way that mutations for lactose persistence have spread in some communities/ regions in just a few thousand years.

There is no reliable, testable and repeatable evidence for "psy" phenomena of any sort.
There is much, sometimes incontrovertible evidence that some of those claiming to have psychic powers are hoaxers.
We have no convincing evidence, of any sort, that any form of extraterrestrial life exists (although many scientists think it might).
There is no testable evidence whatsoever that Earth is, or ever has been, visited by vehicles/ intelligences from elsewhere.

Summoners and psionics (noun) are presumably free to demonstrate their claimed abilities at any time.
Can they attract a rare bird to their bird table? Are they more successful at hailing taxis? Is an attractive stranger more likely to come over and talk to them? (My late Dad clearly believed that shouting at the TV encouraged "his" horse to speed up...)
If something unpleasant happens and phone services aren't available, are these people more likely to get the attention of the emergency services (or the power or telephone company, or a breakdown service truck) than the rest of us?
If they can summon an alien spacecraft, can they summon a Search And Rescue helicopter?

Despite a rather obvious lack of evidence for any of these abilities, which would seem useful in the world we live in, advocates of summoning/ psionics believe that some people can attract vehicles (of a type for which no robust evidence exists) piloted by extraterrestrials (of whom no evidence exists beyond highly questionable anecdotes).
Although interstellar flight of a functioning artefact would appear to be a difficult undertaking, to put it mildly, and the investment required probably very large, the hypothetical mission director(s)/ crew of the hypothetical craft are willing, or compelled, to interrupt whatever they're doing to abide by the wishes of a small group of people (who nevertheless have failed, thus far, to provide any testable evidence of ever accomplishing any such thing).

As well as being an unlikely scenario -and I hope this is allowed re. our politeness policy- it does seem to be a bit conceited.
There must be lots of people, including many relevant scientists, who would love to see an alien spacecraft if one exists.
There are millions of people in real need who might benefit from selling their story, and the clear evidence they've captured...
And who knows what impact an unambiguous, demonstrable sighting of an ETI craft might have on some of our statesmen.
Instead, this privilege, at bit like the enlightenment promised by some groups in the 60's and 70's, is granted to a minority of believers, witnessing the results of their guru's connection to The Other.

Maybe I'm taking this a bit too seriously.
Will the next Skywatch result in strange things being in the sky? I predict yes.
Will there be clear, incontestable footage of exotic flying craft? I suspect not, whatever preparations the watchers have made.
Will the experience alter the beliefs of the Skywatchers? Probably not; they (or at least the organizers) believe Earth is being visited by ETI, and pretty much anything in the sky that they can't immediately identify will be used to reinforce that belief; conversely lack of anomalous sightings will not diminish that belief. And they'll all probably have a nice time.
Will the Skywatchers collect objective, convincing evidence demonstrating that Earth is being visited by extraterrestrial craft?
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...maybe not next time they try. Or in the next 5 years. or 10. But that's just my supposition, and I'm a grumpy old sceptic.


Incidentally, Barber seems to claim to have suffered physical harm from his proximity to an alien craft, enough to gain the interest of immunologist and UFO enthusiast Garry Nolan; although not directly connected to Barber's account, Luis Elizondo is in no doubt about the dangers UAP present:
Two colleagues in particular were under medical care for both cutaneous and visceral injuries that were sustained from interactions with UAP while working with AAWSAP/AATIP, and we had numerous reports of negative biological effects associated with UAP encounters, especially orbs. The injuries sustained seemed to stem from some sort of directed-energy exposure, almost like radiation. Unfortunately, multiple members of our team (excluding myself) experienced severe biological effects resulting in life-threatening medical issues. These biological effects also extended to their family members, including their children. While I am not able to go into details here, I learned of military servicemen and intelligence officers who succumbed to their injuries and lost their lives due to the biological effects of UAP encounters.
-Luis Elizondo, Imminent, originally quoted by Mick West here in the Elizondo's Orbs thread; my emphases.

Luis claims that members of his team were critically injured from encounters with UAP using directed energy weapons; servicemen have been killed by UAP "encounters". Children of members of his team have been similarly injured.

Are the Skywatch organizers suitably insured? Have they drawn the attention of potential future participants to the risks?
What precautions will they take? Good qualified paramedic crews aren't cheap.
The Skywatcher post on X/ Twitter shared by @Dave Beaty in post #83 carries no warning for prospective hosts of a future Skywatch event about the dangers that they, their guests, employees etc. might face.
It's almost as if Skywatch don't take these things seriously...

Edited: "...his egg" changed to "...an alien craft" re. @Dave Beaty's post below.
 

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Incidentally, Barber seems to claim to have suffered physical harm from his proximity to his "egg", enough to gain the interest of immunologist and UFO enthusiast Garry Nolan...

Just to clarify a little. I don't think Jacob Barber claims he personally was anywhere near the Egg UFO seen in the video shown on NewsNation. Instead he claims he was involved in other operations using helicopters, including what he calls the "Eight Gon". I am not sure if this is an object that is an octagon, with eight sides, or some other reason to use this unusual term. He also discusses a helo lift of crate of boxes which seem to have very high value to the military. If I am correct, it was these two events that he is suggesting were resulting in some type of brain injury or other physiological damage. Per your point on Dr. Garry Nolan's interest.
 
Here is Elizondo speaking for hours on podcast from new convert Chris Ramsay. A lot of ground, including Jake, is covered.

I'm guessing that Chris Ramsay is not the the Geordie comedian I'm familiar with, but is this guy:
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Chris Ramsay is a German–born Canadian[2] magician and YouTuber and television producer who created and starred in the TruTV stunt magic show Big Trick Energy.[3][4][5] His YouTube channel, featuring puzzle solves,[6] cardistry and magic[7] has over 7 million subscribers.[8] He is one of the subjects of a book by Ian Frisch, Magic Is Dead: My Journey into the World's Most Secretive Society of Magicians (2019).[9]
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Website https://www.chris-ramsay.com/ https://www.1st.shop/
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Ramsay
In particular as those links point to a webshop carrying some woo-adjacent (e.g. ingo swann references) gimmickry that refer back to the "Area52" youtube channel your vid is from and which seems chock full of the usual nonsense:
https://www.youtube.com/@Area52Investigations
 
I'm guessing that Chris Ramsay is not the the Geordie comedian I'm familiar with, but is this guy:
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Chris Ramsay is a German–born Canadian[2] magician and YouTuber and television producer who created and starred in the TruTV stunt magic show Big Trick Energy.[3][4][5] His YouTube channel, featuring puzzle solves,[6] cardistry and magic[7] has over 7 million subscribers.[8] He is one of the subjects of a book by Ian Frisch, Magic Is Dead: My Journey into the World's Most Secretive Society of Magicians (2019).[9]
[...]
Website https://www.chris-ramsay.com/ https://www.1st.shop/
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Ramsay
In particular as those links point to a webshop carrying some woo-adjacent (e.g. ingo swann references) gimmickry that refer back to the "Area52" youtube channel your vid is from and which seems chock full of the usual nonsense:
https://www.youtube.com/@Area52Investigations
I used to watch his main channel on youtube all the time (https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisRamsay52), where he would do puzzle boxes and show new tricks and expose how people were doing magic tricks and claiming it was psychic abilities (example www.youtube.com/watch?v=yialEM_T2M0).

Unfortunately he has been going down the UFO rabbit hole and drinking the kool-aid pretty hard for the last year or so. I believe he started hanging out with Jeremy Corbell, then he started his new youtube channel, he linked up with the Monroe Institute and started having his own OBEs, and he was at the most recent House UAP hearing last year.

Just goes to show that even reasonable people who understand "how the sausage is made", and how "magic" can be used to fool people (including fooling ourselves), can still get caught up in the hype and their own subjective experiences and still fall down the hole.
 
Corporations that form using bank loans are listed under the person's name on California state records. So using that database you can see the name of corporations and who applied for the loan. And the names of the co-signers. I also didn't know the standard policy is "DM Mick" when I have a question and it's inappropriate and annoying to some for me to ask in a forum.
you do overreact. and you are not reading carefully.

The issue I have is why can I go to a public government website and type in a name and it shows me the info, but I can't paste that info on another website? It's sort of hypocritical.
Mick isnt the government.

And he's not the news biz, so if you find out Barber is doing crack and prostitutes (like Hunter Biden did) you cannot post that here on MB as it is an unacceptable invasion of privacy (in the context of Metabunk).

I could tell you how to get around your specific dilemma, but since im unfriendly, condescending and unhelpful..im not gonna.
 
That helicopter is still a bit odd

No ADSB tracked/recorded flights in 3 months, I set a pounce on it on Flightaware and nothing so far

I wonder how likely it is for helicopters to work in places where they are never tracked on flight trackers or under conditions where they need not broadcast ADSB for long periods.
 
That helicopter is still a bit odd

No ADSB tracked/recorded flights in 3 months, I set a pounce on it on Flightaware and nothing so far

I wonder how likely it is for helicopters to work in places where they are never tracked on flight trackers or under conditions where they need not broadcast ADSB for long periods.
Would a working helicopter that stays within its work site (such as a particular AFB) be exempt from broadcasting? Something that simply transfers loads from one site to another, for example, then returns for another load?

I was once at Natural Bridge, Kentucky when they were doing some trail maintenance, and a helicopter was simply going back and forth to the nearly-inaccessible site to bring material from elsewhere. It was just a shuttle, and I don't think it landed between loads.
 
I don't know the specifics my understanding is the aircraft must broadcast ADS-B if it is operating within controlled airspace. This would mean this helicopter has not done that for 3+ months, i'm sure it's possible it just seems unlikely.

This helicopter is not really line lift helicopter it's a general purpose utility helicopter for stuff like local law enforcement, aerial observation and often used as just a private general purpose helicopter, the kind of helicopter you might rent/own if your hobby was flying helicopters at the weekend.

You have to pay for specific flight history past 3 months. Someone with Flight Radar gold might be able to see 1 year back.
 
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I wonder how likely it is for helicopters to work in places where they are never tracked on flight trackers or under conditions where they need not broadcast ADSB for long periods.
afaik if an aircraft has an ADS-B transponder, it needs to be on, even if it's not required in that airspace (and it'd be dumb to turn it off).

that said, an aircraft flying low in hilly and sparsely populated areas may well not be visible to the volunteer flight tracker network.
 
also this exists:
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The FAA acknowledges the desire of some operators to limit the availability of real-time ADS-B position and identification information for a specific aircraft.

The PIA program enables interested aircraft owners to request an alternate, temporary ICAO aircraft address, which will not be assigned to the owner in the Civil Aircraft Registry (CAR).

You'd have to sleuth that by identifying eligible flights from the helo's homebase.
 
I think the landscape in the helo shot is Texas it matches the terrain around the place the helicopter owner is registered, the desert around Sierra Blanca TX near the USA / Mexico border.

Additionally Barber posted this selfie in reply to a tweet on the thread, he has the same gear on (minus the hat) and the landscape is similar

The presence of the Rode wireless mic transmitter indicates he is doing some vlogging, but no video has emerged that I am aware off.

There is a structure visible between the people, so my guess would be somewhere around

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Is it possible it's the roof of an RV or similar? So might not be useful if someone tries to geolocate the spot (though that would be a pretty hard task)
Aye that's possible, would indicate at least some sort of a road or track near by though.

I am more just collecting stuff here for possible triangulation with later data.
 

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