Skywatcher Part I: The Journey Begins

[Mendel]

Hmm the master list from the FAA has 300,000 aircraft

Filtering by is rotorcraft and N number ends 510 brings up 1 aircraft which is not the pictured helicopter.. So either I have the wrong dataset or that N number is not ending 510.

Or it's not registered in the US.

 

[ManInBlack]

UFOlogy has a bit of a problem, which is that it constantly seems to revolve around the same few names once you pare back to details.

The idea of someone new coming out of nowhere with new information that backs up the claims of the old guard is attractive to the community. But we see here that this new group is actually connected back to people who have been around for a while and they themselves are connected back to the old guard.

Sounds like war stories to me. If they can't back up their claims then it's a waste of their time and money. Doesn't seem that they are crowdfunded and if they are you'd have to be stupid to invest.

 

[MyMatesBrainwashed]

Sounds like war stories to me.

If you are a civilian and believe in NHI/UFOs you can call yourself a ufologist.

If you are/were in the armed forces and believe in HNI/UFOs you can call yourself a whistleblower.

 

[Calter]

Could the N number end in Q instead of 0?

 

[jarlrmai]

Hmm

https://www.flightaware.com/resources/registration/N3051Q

Summary
1974 HUGHES 369HS
Rotorcraft
(4 seats / 1 engine)
Owner
CHARLIE HELICOPTER COMPANY LLC
SIERRA BLANCA , TX, US

Could be!

 

[jarlrmai]

Hmm last flight doesn't seem promising though...

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N3051Q

 

[jarlrmai]

It has to be that aircraft though, there's a N number match with the model, annoying there is no photo of that aircraft online and I cannot find anything online for

CHARLIE HELICOPTER COMPANY LLC
SIERRA BLANCA , TX, US

 

[jarlrmai]

CHARLIE HELICOPTER COMPANY, LLC in Sierra Blanca, ...

Bizapedia
https://www.bizapedia.com › U.S. › Texas › Sierra Blanca
The Registered Agent on file for this company is Dennis Walker and is located at 2000 Skunk Canyon Road, Sierra Blanca, TX 79851. The company's principal ...

 

[Calter]

I tried checking ADS-B Exchange for around the time the tweet was made to see if maybe they flew the helicopter shortly before or after the tweet, but no luck (I assumed it would show up as a type H500 so I filtered to show only that, I'm not sure if there's a better way to filter just helicopters)

 

[flarkey]

I tried checking ADS-B Exchange for around the time the tweet was made to see if maybe they flew the helicopter shortly before or after the tweet, but no luck (I assumed it would show up as a type H500 so I filtered to show only that, I'm not sure if there's a better way to filter just helicopters)

yeah I've been trying the same on FR24 & ADSB, but no luck. Although, I had been looking around southern California. @jarlrmai 's post might suggest this is in Texas?

 

[jarlrmai]

For private aircraft usually the flight number is the tail number.

That's where the owner of the helicopter company its registered to has based his company.

The helicopter could be anywhere I'd suspect CA

 

[Dave Beaty]

I was interested in finding the address listed in the California

Hmm

https://www.flightaware.com/resources/registration/N3051Q

Summary
1974 HUGHES 369HS
Rotorcraft
(4 seats / 1 engine)
Owner
CHARLIE HELICOPTER COMPANY LLC
SIERRA BLANCA , TX, US

Could be!

Wow! Great Work

 

[Dave Beaty]

Dennis Walker seems to be the owner of Charlie Helicopters in TX. Or at least involved in that company. He also completed his helocopter training at Tier-1 helicopters in GA. There is a photo of him with his certificate. I found an USAF post about a "Dennis Walker" being involved as ground crew on U2 spyplane in 2016. Jake Barber is USAF so perhaps they are friends. Here: https://www.afcent.af.mil/Units/380...ssion-system-for-high-altitude-u-2-is-replac/

 

[flarkey]

There's also a Kyle Walker listed in relation to Charlie Helicopters, he's linked to Little Bird LLC that flies OH-6 Little Birds (a variant of the MD500) out of El Paso.

https://www.recoilweb.com/aftershots-little-bird-llc-63557.html

https://www.facebook.com/littlebirdflights/

 

[jarlrmai]

The UID and MODE S CODE HEX code from the FAA in case it helps

uid: 324469
hex: A3346F

 

[jarlrmai]

I cannot find the flight portion for the Min Jan Flightaware flight on ADSB Ex, so perhaps there were no ADSB Ex feeders in that area.

I ran a full US continent ADSB Ex scan for the N number on the day the twitter post was made with hits

So either

No ADS-B ex feeders in the area of operation
No actual flight on that day (posing in front of parked helicopter)
Operating under some area or other caveat where the FAA rules do not require ADSB to be on, if that ever applies to helicopter operation.

 

[Calter]

Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but I found something weird that maybe someone more familiar with how flights are tracked can explain.

I was trying to find the flight that the candidate supposedly did

But I couldn't find it. What I did find however, was a plane that had the same tail number off by one letter (it's N3451Q instead of N3051Q)

It does basically the same path at the same time as the helicopter. I'm not sure if there was a mistake when logging the plane flight and it got logged under the helicopter's data, or if there was a mistake logging the helicopter's flight and it got transmitted under the plane's data.

It starts on Iowa Falls, and ends near Centerville around 21:22 UTC (3:22 CST)

It flies at around 80 knots and 3000 feet, I don't know if that's the standard speed or height for the plane or the helicopter.

Here's the ADS-B link

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-01-10-20:09&lat=42.445&lon=-93.187&zoom=11.9

Also worth noting it's not a perfect match, since while the plane dissapears at around 21:22, it then "continues" the flight (I don't know if it could have landed and taken off again), and flies away.

But the flight path matching + it being off by just one letter feels too weird to be a coincidence.

 

[jarlrmai]

Yeah that is odd, usually tracks like that are partial captures where there's no feeders in the range or signal blocks.

It sounds like its bad data in the Flightaware DB to me.

If so we have no idea when that helicopter was last flying and tracked on ADSB.

 

[jarlrmai]

Turns out you can only run an ADSB Exchange replay on 200 speed for the entire US filtered for a specific hex code for so long before Chrome runs out of memory.

 

[jarlrmai]

Free Flightaware history check, does not seem to show the "in error" flight.

 

[NorCal Dave]

Interesting choice of location, the ranch is just south of Ridgecrest directly in-between Edwards AFB and a ton of ranges

I guess the question is Rocky Top Ranch, where they were summoning UFOs from, the same as "The Range" where he did his UFO retrieval work, or close to it? As you pointed out there are ranges all around this place, but it's also not quite as remote as it seems. One can literally walk less than 2 miles and be on campus for a test at Cerro Coso Community collage:

Granted, Cerro Coso CC seems to be one of those campuses, like my own local alma matter, that is set in what seems like the middle of nowhere. Still, the town of Ridgecrest is just up the road and they're just a few miles from US395. More importantly, with the amount of ranges nearby that you found:

What are the odds of seeing something or anything in the sky's? Seems like a good place to set up a camera and wait. Especially to catch potential military aircraft not broadcasting on ADBS, thus not on Flight Radar and conclusively not aircraft.

 

[FatPhil]

I can't read the N-number although it looks like it has XX510. It could also be XX51O?

Military Block, a.k.a. Amarillo USAF? Good luck with that!

https://www.dafont.com/amarillo-usaf.font

I ain't too sure that example does even "Contrast in color with the background" § 45.21 General. (c)(3) https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/45.21 (where (c)(4) is also "Be legible"!)

 

[jarlrmai]

We know it's most likely a Q, there's a reg ends 51Q that matches the pictured aircraft.

 

[Calter]

Something I found while looking if Barber talked more about the helicopter was this tweet


Source: https://x.com/jakebarber2025/status/1885049814532186464

Ignoring that it's obviously a bad excuse for bad quality captures, it's interesting that he seems to know this object was travelling at 3000-9000 MPH when they don't say this information in the video.

They do show this image of an object that has numbers close to 3000MPH and 9000MPH,

but as they show this image, they say

We have an egg-shaped object that our sensors caught moving in one direction supposedly connected to our psionics team, and a disc-shaped object that Fred reportedly saw moving in a different direction. We worked with an animator to specifically visualize the disc that Fred saw, this is a recreation from his vantage point, for reference this is what he believes the disc looked like and this is the speed we calculated the disc was moving over the building

So, these numbers are not for the video they recorded. Is it a coincidence that they both travel at similar insane speeds? Did they calculate one travelling at said speeds and deduced the other one must also be going at a similar speed? Did Barber just get them mixed up?

The 3000-9000mph feels not too dissimilar to when people try to calculate the speed of a bug crossing a camera and they instead assume it's a distant object.

 

[NorCal Dave]

So, these numbers are not for the video they recorded. Is it a coincidence that they both travel at similar insane speeds? Did they calculate one travelling at said speeds and deduced the other one must also be going at a similar speed? Did Barber just get them mixed up?

Regardless of which object he's referring to, how does any of it work with these statements he made:

Besides 3,000 -9,000 MPH being a pretty big spread, if it's moving at the speed of a high powered rifle round, how is it that the "sensors" idenitified this as "egg shaped":

We have an egg-shaped object that our sensors caught moving in one direction

Or conversely, we have Fred seeing a disc shaped object:

and a disc-shaped object that Fred reportedly saw moving in a different direction

So, either the "sensors' identified something as egg shaped that was traveling roughly between Mach 4ish and Mach 10 at a distance of 3K meters or just under 2 miles. Or, Fred managed to see a saucer at a distance of just under 2 miles traveling that speed. I would think all Fred, or the "sensors" would see in that situation is what they captured, a faint blob that lasted less than a second.

How can Fred have any idea what it looked like? Even using their figures, or the artist's, a speed/time calculator just bottoms out at 00:01:

I'm sure there are members here that can do better than this, but a sub-second event just makes the claim worse.

 

[MyMatesBrainwashed]

I imagine making a documentary about trying to capture a picture of a bullet then crying afterwards cos taking photographs of bullets is hard.

 

[Calter]

Besides 3,000 -9,000 MPH being a pretty big spread

It's also a deceiving number without knowing size and distance. The moon travels at 2200 MPH and it's trivial to track it, the ISS moves at 27000MPH and you can follow it just fine.

This disc seems to be fairly bigger than a bullet, meaning it should be visible from further away, so it's not necessarily harder.

 

[Ann K]

It's also a deceiving number without knowing size and distance.

It's also a hypothesized value that cannot possibly be calculated when the distance isn't known.

 

[Dave Beaty]

I was focusing on San Joaquin Helicopters out of Kern county. I found a bunch of contenders that could do sling loading and were dual blade. The crew chief told me the sound is def a twin rotor sound. If it's not overdubbed. So most of the helo's linked to that company are photo's of older helos sold, crashed or even one in Medellin Colombia for some reason. Strange it has an N-number I am unsure if Colombia uses N numbers?

Why would a CA company have a Bell 212 in Colombia? ??


Here are other helos associated with San Joaquin - This Bell was sold to a Canadian Company here it is now:

This one was destroyed in a fatal crash while doing ag work killing the pilot another helo with this one survived and witnessed the crash:

This one is mainly rigged for Ag work spraying but I assume it could be used for sling loads pretty quickly:

This one has it's N-number "reserved" whatever that means:

This Hughes likely owned by Charlie Helicopters out of Texas based on N number you found. Linked to a guy named Dennis Miller. Dennis it appears was also USAF and possibly involved with U2 plane during his service. Jake is former USAF and also into helos. Possibly they are buddies and Jake snapped the photo of Dennis's Hughes. This is a photo of Dennis Miller getting his certificate at "Tier 1 Helicopter school" Doesn't Fred, Jake and company talk about Tier-1 operators - like Fred is a Tier 1? I wouldn't be surprised if the school owner, Dennis and Jake are all USAF buds.

Link to story with a "Dennis Miller" could be someone else - uncorroborated lead:https://www.afcent.af.mil/Units/380...ssion-system-for-high-altitude-u-2-is-replac/

 

[Mendel]

The 3000-9000mph feels not too dissimilar to when people try to calculate the speed of a bug crossing a camera and they instead assume it's a distant object.

no sonic boom = no supersonic speed

 

[Mick West]

no sonic boom = no supersonic speed

But no sonic boom at supersonic speed = alien technology.

 

[jarlrmai]

Medellin Columbia for some reason. Strange it has an N-number I am unsure if Columbia uses N numbers?

Just a heads up the country is Colombia as opposed to the city of Columbia in South Carolina.

 

[Scaramanga]

I don't care how '100% certain' several of the interviewees in the video are about non-human intelligence. The bottom line is...I watched the video and saw absolutely zero evidence of non-human intelligence. None whatever.

 

[JMartJr]

But no sonic boom at supersonic speed = alien technology.

But... but... what about Air 1.0????

 

[Mendel]

But no sonic boom at supersonic speed = alien technology.

and alien air, too

 

[Kyle Ferriter]

If I was designing a rigorous experimental methodology to determine whether anomalous aircraft in the sky could be reliably made to appear and fly in a particular way purely by the mental activity of one particular individual, it would look very different than this.

It warms my heart to see the overwhelming response to this episode, on YouTube, Reddit, and Twitter, being very slanted towards the critical and frustrated with how much a few frames of blurry blobs (which at a glance look like they could be an insect, and birds/bats) was hyped up and blown up into a very lengthy amount of content that does not really add to the credibility of the claims being made about those frames of video.

I don't know how Professor Garry Nolan, PhD, is okay with prominently endorsing and signing his name on this. He publishes papers in real journals. He knows how misleading this presentation is.

 

[MyMatesBrainwashed]

It's also a deceiving number without knowing size and distance.

Isn't size the actual thing being estimated? Not speed.

And it suggests a large spread in the possible sizes of eggs? Is that 300% too or is the math more complicated than that?

 

[Dave Beaty]

Jake Barber lists San Joaquin Helicopters on his social media as a company he is involved with or a pilot for. Located in Delano CA near his home. But I just sorted the entire US Aircraft registry and can't find ANY current N-numbers assigned to the company. Like they are defunct. Can anyone double check me there? I find plenty of deregistered helos. Sold, crashed and so on. Or just cancelled FAA registration. Almost like they sold all their aircraft. I could be wrong. So I wanted a second opinion. Next up is Rogers Helicopters, another one people have said he is chief pilot for. My goal is to find helo's Jake Barber flies and start using ADS-B flights .

 

[NorCal Dave]

Like they are defunct.

Maybe? I can't find anything like a website or a LinkedIn page, but I did find this:

This was back in 2019, and it looks like it was a complete liquidation. Don't know if someone started it back up, or is using the name again. Or if Barber is referring to who he flew for previously. Here is the sold listing for the 3 helos with their registration numbers:

 

[Dave Beaty]

Let's assume Barber no longer works for San Joaquin as his LinkedIn Profile shows. I'll go one farther and say he doesn't use LinkedIn since he's never posted or updated his profile once. And San Joaquin is no longer in business and sold all assets.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-barber-611874b3/

Rogers Helicopters had lots of active Bell 212 Huey like helicopters. Photos of firefighting operations. I have a video that shows Jake involved in firefighting operations. So there is another potential lead. That and the Charlie Helicopters. The photo of Jake appears to be in front of Texas vegitation. Not California.



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