Skywatcher Part I: The Journey Begins

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Do you remember the context of the tweet? I think this is just a personal Barber thing rather than something related to Skywatcher, based on this thread of replies


Source: https://x.com/jakebarber2025/status/1906082259100393777


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Here's the video, it seems he posted it twice and you linked the one that got deleted


Source: https://x.com/jakebarber2025/status/1906114607779135777

Edit: It might be worth to move this to another thread since this is unrelated to Skywatcher and just a video from Barber's neighbor.
 
They claim to have footage of Tic Tac UFOs. I am looking forward to seeing it, and hope it is good. We'll see. I've seen a Tic Tac UFO myself, and watched it fly off into space extremely quickly. Hopefully there will be some good evidence eventually.
 
Todd Feinman said:
They claim to have footage of Tic Tac UFOs. I am looking forward to seeing it, and hope it is good. We'll see. I've seen a Tic Tac UFO myself, and watched it fly off into space extremely quickly. Hopefully there will be some good evidence eventually.
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Would be fun if they do... I suspect, though, that if they DID have such footage they would have released it at once and become historically famous and important already.

So, I suspect they'll have what we have seen before: distant planes and balloons, maybe some Starlink flares... the usual suspects lurking in the Low Information Zone (LIZ, where something can be detected but with too little detail to tell what it is). But I guess we'll see, at some point.
 
JMartJr said:
Would be fun if they do... I suspect, though, that if they DID have such footage they would have released it at once and become historically famous and important already.

So, I suspect they'll have what we have seen before: distant planes and balloons, maybe some Starlink flares... the usual suspects lurking in the Low Information Zone (LIZ, where something can be detected but with too little detail to tell what it is). But I guess we'll see, at some point.
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If it is more LIZ footage, then you folks can dissect it! I think they know that kind of thing isn't going to cut it anymore. We need evidence that can stand up to a Metabunk level of scrutiny. Everyone, not just skeptics are sick of the blurry footage and bokeh...
 
Hi everyone, new to Metabunk. I've been researching the Barber/Herrera helicopter flight for months. Over that time my research let me to N3051Q, Royal Helicopter Services and Mile High Ranch independent of this forum.

I don't think anyone in this thread has seen this yet, but Royal Helicopter Services LLC just had a new helicopter registered to it: https://es.flightaware.com/resources/registration/N8353F

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And it did some maneuvers over Mile High today (flightradar24):

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So that's a helicopter owned by one of Barber's companies doing work at Mile High.

Also, N8353 seems to be housed at Georgetown, TX, which is where the Robinson R44 helicopter in the Skywatcher part 2 trailer is registered.
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Jake Barber: Skywatcher is 'finding things that are not known objects' | Reality Check

Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5e5z1bcBgQ&pp=ygVYSmFrZSBCYXJiZXI6IFNreXdhdGNoZXIgaXMg4oCYZmluZGluZyB0aGluZ3MgdGhhdCBhcmUgbm90IGtub3duIG9iamVjdHMnIHwgUmVhbGl0eSBDaGVjaw%3D%3D


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Ross Coulthart sits down with UFO Whistleblower and Skywatcher Founder, Jake Barber, and Skywatcher's Strategic Advisor, Matthew Pines. Together, they discuss Pines' new Skywatcher role and what it means for the future of Skywatcher.

Barber also announces that the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) has been with the Skywatcher team in the field, and makes a very bold statement: 100% of the time they run their operation, they get results in broad daylight.
 
Taken from the downloaded transcript:

Jake Barber:
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yeah I'll tell you I'll tell you so episode two that releases April 7th um is going to be the first time we introduce one of our key members who runs our technology side of the house what we call our technology operations group um and in that episode he is going to be our lead in taking uh everyone through what we call our nine classes of UAP and the nine classes of UAP are what we use to try and separate um and classify and differentiate between all the different things we're witnessing and those nine classes are really subcat sub components of a broader maybe three categories and those three categories are something like actual craft like uh Machinery flying in the sky to um light phenomenon that can be uh crystals beams orbs uh pla things that appear to be something like a plasma blob in the sky all the way to Flying creatures like what might be a flying jellyfish or an interdimensional creature as crazy as that sounds but there is a class um or a set of classes that falls under that category as well
Ross Coulthart:
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forgive me for interrupting just to be clear on this when you say these nine classes are these nine classes that you have already recorded seen
Jake Barber:
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yes yes so they they are they are proprietary they it's our class system that we've come up with um and that's what we're going to be sharing I think uh one of the classes that people are going to be most excited to see because it's very well known and arguably one of the most uh famous and interesting UFO UAP classes out there is the Tic Tac so um on April 7th you'll get to see our interactions with the Tic Tac we had a lot of success with the Tic Tac uh in in episode two or the filming of that it showed up for several days in broad daylight dropping from above 80,000 feet as everyone has heard um we pick it up on our radar we track it we image it uh through a number number of different means and uh so that's going to be exciting to see because that's a one of the ones that um holds the most promise for an exciting conclusion right now now you just I can't let this one go
 
Looks like we are also adding in some new jargon....Psionics wasn't cool enough, so now they are referred to as Neuro Meditatives (or Meditators).
 
Jake Barber:

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anything that might look like a balloon uh balloons tend to be the scapegoat when you don't have any other bucket to put it in we all like to use the balloon bucket and admittedly a lot of this stuff looks like a balloon like you
could take a mylar balloon and we've actually played with that in the field we launch our own balloons to see if we
can um can deep fake our own data by launching balloons and seeing if we could could manufacture something that looks like the anomalous stuff we're seeing and um balloons get ruled out pretty quickly uh when you take into account wind because balloons are uh are going to move pretty close to the vector or the direction of travel of the wind and pretty much at the velocity of the wind so as soon as you start moving um perpendicular to the wind or at any angle not directly downwind at velocity is different than the ambient wind velocity balloons get ruled out pretty quickly despite how much you want to believe that it's a balloon um because there are things there are classes that um look like it could be a balloon until it starts morphing and changing like balloons aren't going to change the way they look and their radar signature also is something that's pretty distinctive now I'm not one of our radar operators I'm I'm not I'm not an analyst for radar but I'm I'm in our tactical Operation Center when we're looking at this stuff and I can tell you that um the last thing any of us want is to look foolish by putting something out to the public and saying we think it's anomalous and then having it easily explained Away by all the armchair quarterbacks watching the internet around the world
 
RAS said:
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...balloons get ruled out pretty quickly uh when you take into account wind because balloons are uh are going to move pretty close to the vector or the direction of travel of the wind and pretty much at the velocity of the wind so as soon as you start moving um perpendicular to the wind or at any angle not directly downwind at velocity is different than the ambient wind velocity balloons get ruled out pretty quickly despite how much you want to believe that it's a balloon um because there are things there are classes that um look like it could be a balloon until it starts morphing and changing like balloons aren't going to change the way they look and their radar signature also is something that's pretty distinctive now I'm not one of our radar operators I'm I'm not I'm not an analyst for radar but I'm I'm in our tactical Operation Center when we're looking at this stuff and I can tell you that um the last thing any of us want is to look foolish by putting something out to the public and saying we think it's anomalous and then having it easily explained Away by all the armchair quarterbacks watching the internet around the world
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I hope Part II is longer than Part I, because I'm not sure how they'll cram the introductions of new members, explaining the 9 types of UAP, showing a video demonstrating each type and then go over their data for why these things that they themselves admit could look mundane actually aren't mundane, all in 30 minutes.

Because if they show a video of something that looks like a balloon, and then just brush it off with "We looked at the wind and it wasn't blowing that way" without sharing more details, then they are bound to get explained away by armchair quarterbacks.
 
Calter said:
I hope Part II is longer than Part I, because I'm not sure how they'll cram the introductions of new members, explaining the 9 types of UAP, showing a video demonstrating each type and then go over their data for why these things that they themselves admit could look mundane actually aren't mundane, all in 30 minutes.
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This is looking a lot like a slightly more upscale "Finding Bigfoot," 30 minutes is plenty of time for not living up to hype. Not finding bigfoot, or aliens, doesn't really take that long -- I have not found either just in the time it took to type this!
 
RAS said:
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Barber also announces that the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) has been with the Skywatcher team in the field, and makes a very bold statement: 100% of the time they run their operation, they get results in broad daylight.
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That surprises me somewhat - although I admit that today's AARO isn't your grandma's AARO. Can a FOIA be filed to investigate to what extent there has been collaboration?
 
RAS said:
Matthew Pines announced as Skywatcher's Strategic Advisor
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Never 'eard of 'im. >Tappity-tappity-tap<
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Bitcoin and UAP: Hidden Connections in Advanced Technology


Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, bridges the gap between cryptocurrency and unidentified aerial phenomena through his strategic advisory role at skywatcher. His expertise spans physics, philosophy, and national security, with significant experience advising the U.S. government on emerging technologies.

The Bitcoin Policy Institute focuses on researching cryptocurrency implications while Pines maintains involvement in UAP investigations. His academic background from Johns Hopkins University and the London School of Economics provides unique analytical perspectives on both fields.

As a strategic advisor for skywatcher, Pines supports private investigations into alleged non-human technology and recovered craft. The organization seeks to independently verify and potentially reverse engineer advanced technologies outside government oversight.
-- https://www.vetted.show/episodes/matthew-pines-joins-uap-psionic-asset-company-skywatcher

I keep mentioning "clusters" - is the UAP clique melding with the crypto clique to form something bigger?
 
FatPhil said:
That surprises me somewhat - although I admit that today's AARO isn't your grandma's AARO. Can a FOIA be filed to investigate to what extent there has been collaboration?
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Hurry up, before AARO also axes its FOIA team:

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Teams that fulfilled requests for government documents lost their jobs on Tuesday as part of the Trump administration's 10,000-person staff cuts at the Department of Health and Human Services. Their work, mandated by Congress since the 1960s under the Freedom of Information Act or FOIA, gives the public a view of the inner workings of federal health agencies.

Some public records teams were entirely cut at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health and other agencies on Tuesday, according to multiple current and former staffers who did not want to be named because of fears of retribution. A few people have been left standing on other FOIA teams within these agencies, for now.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has promised "radical transparency," but the firings suggest that promise is a "lie," says Jason R. Baron, a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration and current professor at the College of Information at the University of Maryland
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/03/g-s1-57888/hhs-fda-rfk-foia-public-records
 
flarkey said:
we're going to shine a big light at them"
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that's optical signaling

they're talking about "electronic signatures" they call "dog whistles" on page 6.

on page 17, the signals are "electromagnetic".
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It's a big muddle.

"Electromechanical" means relays and motors. At this point, I'd bet it's anything but that.

(If I wanted to summon "aerial phenomena", I'd use an emergency location transmitter—or jam its frequency. It's essential to not get caught, though. :-p)
 
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saucypuppets said:
Skywatcher Discovery Framework:
Source: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sDP2QTCAmBL9PhXfL7ySycFdTw0jy821/view
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Excerpts:
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Time to apply!

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"Truth-filtering" sounds ominous. If they mean input validation, then that'd be fine.

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The word "archive" is not used. Their job call-out also does not include data archivists, though this is where previous efforts failed. I'm suspicious that they may want to present cherry-picked data ("datasets"), as UFOlogy has traditionally done.
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This will be very interesting. Except for the Hessdalen lights, I know of no unexplained phenomenon that has been seen over "days or weeks of monitoring". I do remember the AARO identification of certain river delta triangles as fishing nets, which would have initially passed this stage.

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That's another point where it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

In general, this is an abstract framework, and it doesn't reveal much of what they actually did, or what they're going to be doing. I suspect it is in fact heavily influenced by AARO methodology, and as such could serve as a basis for good practice.

How that actually plays out will probably depend on whether the UFO seekers are happy with the results.
 
FatPhil said:
Never 'eard of 'im. >Tappity-tappity-tap<
External Quote:

Bitcoin and UAP: Hidden Connections in Advanced Technology


Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, bridges the gap between cryptocurrency and unidentified aerial phenomena through his strategic advisory role at skywatcher. His expertise spans physics, philosophy, and national security, with significant experience advising the U.S. government on emerging technologies.

The Bitcoin Policy Institute focuses on researching cryptocurrency implications while Pines maintains involvement in UAP investigations. His academic background from Johns Hopkins University and the London School of Economics provides unique analytical perspectives on both fields.

As a strategic advisor for skywatcher, Pines supports private investigations into alleged non-human technology and recovered craft. The organization seeks to independently verify and potentially reverse engineer advanced technologies outside government oversight.
-- https://www.vetted.show/episodes/matthew-pines-joins-uap-psionic-asset-company-skywatcher

I keep mentioning "clusters" - is the UAP clique melding with the crypto clique to form something bigger?
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I suspect that groups are seeking to merge their "true believer" user bases into larger clusters for easier fund raising. If people will believe in one conspiracy and invest in it, then maybe you can get them to invest in your consipracy too. Getting views of your videos, selling books and seminars and T-shirts brings in the dollars. Knowing someone is committed to one conspiracy is a good indicater that they are vulnerable to whatever crazy story you are selling.
 
Mendel said:
that's optical signaling

they're talking about "electronic signatures" they call "dog whistles" on page 6.

on page 17, the signals are "electromagnetic".
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It's a big muddle.

"Electromechanical" means relays and motors. At this point, I'd bet it's anything but that.

(If I wanted to summon "aerial phenomena", I'd use an emergency location transmitter—or jam its frequency. It's essential to not get caught, though. :-p)
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Someone needs to get out to Mile High with an RTL-SDR and see what the Dog Whistle does.
 
Electromechanical Signaling refers to the hypothesis that specific
electromagnetic signals, sensor configurations, or environmental
conditions may influence or attract UAP activity. Over the past several
months, Skywatcher has already conducted multiple controlled tests,
deploying advanced sensor arrays in locations where anomalous aerial
activity has been reported. The results have been compelling enough to
place Electromechanical Signaling at Level 3 in the Skywatcher
Discovery Framework, meaning we have gathered structured, multi-
instrument data that suggests an anomalous response, but we are not
yet at the stage of independent verification. Our goal is to progress to
Level 4 in the coming months, at which point external experts will be
invited to analyze our findings.
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excerpt from Skywatcher Discovery Framework pg. 17

I have serious concerns that they understand the difference between cause and effect, much less between cause and correlation which can at times be ambiguous. Their hypothesis is (in part) that sensor configurations may influence UAP activity. Thus, they believe that if the proper set of sensors is configured, UAPs will take interest in the sensors. Note, this doesn't require the sensors to be "sensing." This implies a very high level of observation by an intelligent unknown observer: "we will look more closely at people that have guessed correctly the combination of sensors that we are interested in." The much more likely phenomenon here is that with more sensors across more spectrum, more mundane things are being observed. Or, possibly, with more sensors working in ways that the users don't really understand (since they are not everyday sensors they have great familiarity with) there is greater possibility of misinterpretation of the data leading to more "sightings."

Electromechanical signals would likely be "noise" created by the operation of electronics, motors, relays, even friction between mechanical parts. Hard to believe this rises above random to become specific. Maybe they meant emission of specific wavelengths of EO (Electro-Optical) emission, or specific signals modulated on the emissions (why not say so?). Either way, its hard to believe this group has stumbled across the "right" combination without even proving the phenomenon exists.
Level 2: Structured Data Collection

Investigators now make organized efforts to collect better evidence,
deploying instruments such as high-resolution cameras, infrared
sensors, or radar systems with data integrity checks. Consistent
reporting forms or apps standardize the way witnesses document new
sightings, ensuring metadata (timestamps, coordinates) is accurately
recorded. Repeated observations in the same area—if corroborated by
multiple sensors—strengthen the case. By the end of this Level, the
team compiles a dataset that remains unexplainable by simple checks,
justifying a more rigorous scientific analysis.
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excerpt from Skywatcher Discovery Framework pg. 13

So they claim by their own framework that they have collected and analyzed data that shows "unexplainable" phenomena (at least through simple checks). By their own methods, I would expect this to mean that they have multiple simultaneous geolocated, timestamped, and geo-oriented sensor recordings across multiple spectrums. Anything less would be non-compliant with their own framework. This shouldn't be a high bar for them since they claim to observe these phenomenon daily and it would be relatively easy to set up all of the sensors on a known baseline and record accurate data. From this type of data, there should be no questions about the geometry of the sighting. They should have highly accurate information of the position of the phenomenon and should be able to show that multiple sensors (across multiple spectra) are detecting the same phenomena. If they have this information, then they "merely" have to rule out mundane objects like aircraft, drones, birds, satellites, stars, planets, etc. If they can present this type of data, it will be interesting to analyze.

I'm not hopeful though. I expect a bunch of uncorrelated sensor detections of poorly known DTLDs (Date, Time, Location, Direction) of a multitude of mundane things and/or false signals from poorly understood/operated equipment.

Our goal is to progress to
Level 4 in the coming months, at which point external experts will be
invited to analyze our findings.
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excerpt from Skywatcher Discovery Framework pg 17. referring to status of Electromechanical Signaling

At least this shouldn't (but probably will) drag out infinitely. I interpret this to mean that sometime this year, they will release actual data, not just interviews. If they don't release full DTLDs and raw sensor data as well as a good description of their "experimental" methodology then we can make a fair assumption that they don't have the data they say they do or are otherwise trying to obfuscate and misdirect.

I also note that their framework doesn't include releasing speculative interviews, tease videos, or poor quality information at any stage of the investigation. Yet that's pretty much all they have done to date.

I can't resist bringing up Harriet Hall's famous reference to "Tooth Fairy Science" : The study of a phenomenon before establishing its existence.
 
Stryder said:
I have serious concerns that they understand the difference between cause and effect, much less between cause and correlation which can at times be ambiguous. Their hypothesis is (in part) that sensor configurations may influence UAP activity. Thus, they believe that if the proper set of sensors is configured, UAPs will take interest in the sensors. Note, this doesn't require the sensors to be "sensing." This implies a very high level of observation by an intelligent unknown observer: "we will look more closely at people that have guessed correctly the combination of sensors that we are interested in." The much more likely phenomenon here is that with more sensors across more spectrum, more mundane things are being observed. Or, possibly, with more sensors working in ways that the users don't really understand (since they are not everyday sensors they have great familiarity with) there is greater possibility of misinterpretation of the data leading to more "sightings."
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We had strong indications that the Tedescos interpreted radar interference as a signal. If you set up a sensor array (or a hodgepodge of gadgets) "just right", you can engineer that interference—and it would go away with a more "random" setup, as reported.
 
Mendel said:
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Do we really need to hypothesise that something in the sky you can't identify might be remote controlled using radio waves?

I don't like the use of UAP here.

For terrestrial objects, the hypothesis is correct but totally unnecessary. Sunny days may influence people using their small flying devices. Stunning insight although I suggest having more confidence in the assertions if this was this case.

For UAPs of alien origin, how do you determine what may NOT influence or attract UAP activity?

And does this hypothesis say anything more than it MIGHT be a specific one of these? As opposed to what? A non specific one? A random one?

Utter word salad.
 
deirdre said:
(yes im calling this tv show skinwalker2)
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If anyone wanted confirmation that Skywatcher will mostly follow in the footsteps of Skinwalker Ranch, Barber considers the comparisons of the two a compliment


Source: https://x.com/jakebarber2025/status/1908603840037085668


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Skinwalker Ranch is one of the greatest shows out there.

It is one of my favorite critiques we get -

"Skywatcher is "just" another Skinwalker Ranch show." Thank you.

Let's get even more of this genre of shows going world-wide. All hands on deck to crack the code of the phenomenon.
 
Calter said:
Barber considers the comparisons of the two a compliment
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i dont think being called a "rip off" show is a compliment. obviously he will make money off of some of the Skinwalker crowd, so that's a good thing. (not nearly as much money as skinwalker is on Skinwalker Ranch..a famous local, and has a war room, cameras everywhere, spooky ambiance, trees, spiderwebs, etc. And they live on site, which makes it more realistic they catch some stuff on film.)

the name Skywatcher is pretty lame too and forgettable. He should call it like Psychic UFO/ UFO Psychics or something memorable that would bring in more viewers. i get Skywatcher/ Skinwalker is a phonetic marketing tool but the name still sucks.

Although i remember the name GhostFacers. but they had a catchy theme song.
 
saucypuppets said:
Hi everyone, new to Metabunk. I've been researching the Barber/Herrera helicopter flight for months. Over that time my research let me to N3051Q, Royal Helicopter Services and Mile High Ranch independent of this forum.

I don't think anyone in this thread has seen this yet, but Royal Helicopter Services LLC just had a new helicopter registered to it: https://es.flightaware.com/resources/registration/N8353F
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Just as an additional confirmation to this discovery, Barber tweeted this

Source: https://x.com/jakebarber2025/status/1908912911210459446


Where he's standing in front of the helicopter N8353F
 
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