New fuel dump "chemtrail" video [Munich, Thai Airways Flight 925]

JFDee

Senior Member.
A new fuel dump video appeared on Youtube, titled "This is a spray plane":
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The supposed recording date is today, July 15th 2015. A short search brought up an incident from today at Munich:

http://avherald.com/h?article=489578d3

This is the incident caught in the video.

The Thai Airways livery matches the plane in the video nicely (see last still at the end)



This is the interrupted flight on Flightradar24:

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TWCobra

Senior Member.
Dane Wigington has posted the following video on his Geoengineering Watch site, claiming it to be undeniable evidence of "particulate spraying"

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/undeniable-video-footage-of-wing-tip-aerosol-spraying/



It is a Thai Airways 747 that experienced a flap retraction problem flying out of Munich.

http://avherald.com/h?article=489578d3&opt=0
The aircraft could not retract its flaps. Standard procedure is to dump fuel as the drag from the flaps and altitude limitations for them being extended makes continuation of the flight impossible.

Of note in Wigingtons report is, even though the dump is clearly taking place from the dump valves on the outer wing, the regurgitation of the pylon drain explanation from behind the engines.

Debunked.
 
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MikeC

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Yes - mostly only larger aircraft tho' - those with vast ranges carry huge fuel loads that take them a long way over their max landing weight. Smaller and shorter ranged aircraft do not carry so much fuel.

the restriction is due to the loads created on landing gear and structure by vertical deceleration on touchdown - the vertical speed is pretty much defined by the aircraft speed and the standard 3 degree approach path, so the only way to manage the load at this point is to manage the mass of the aircraft.
 
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JFDee

Senior Member.
The uploader of the original Youtube video has confirmed it was recorded near Salzburg, Austria, around 3:20 pm on July 15th.
There is no more doubt that he captured HS-TGB dumping fuel.

He has obviously accepted that this is a fuel dump which was also stated in the comments quite often. I suggest pointing doubters to the original video:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui9TtL3r7P0
 

MikeC

Closed Account
Has anyone commented on the geowatch page that it's a fuel dump??

I just did and wonder if others have but haven't been accepted?
 

skephu

Senior Member.
Dane already answered that preemptively:
 

Hama Neggs

Senior Member.
Dane already answered that preemptively:
It's not a fuel dump, because... well, PROVE IT!, and if it IS a fuel dump, that's STILL REALLY BAD! :rolleyes:
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
Dane Wigington has posted the following video on his Geoengineering Watch site, claiming it to be undeniable evidence of "particulate spraying"

Of note in Wigingtons report is, even though the dump is clearly taking place from the dump valves on the outer wing, the regurgitation of the pylon drain explanation from behind the engines.

Debunked.
Dane Wigington is desperate and getting very sloppy. When he wrote this he didn't recognize that he was shedding doubt on his own claims:

 

skephu

Senior Member.
Dane is busy deleting comments and banning commenters hinting at fuel dumps on his Facebook page.
 

scombrid

Senior Member.
Fuel dumps evaporate and do not persist like persistent contrails.
 

Trailblazer

Moderator
Staff member
Clear evidence that the plane in question is the Thai 747:

1) Matching livery:

Grab from video:

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747 in Thai Airways livery: note logo on tail and stripe pattern on rear of fuselage.

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2) Matching time and location:

The original video was uploaded by YouTube user "blackdogshow" here:


From the comments, where he was asked when and where it was filmed:

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This image of the flight track was posted on Twitter at 3.44pm Austrian time on July 15:

 
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skephu

Senior Member.
Dane removes all comments mentioning the possibility of a fuel dump on his facebook pages:



Ron Barney's comment disappeared.



Kristian Smith Bub's comment disappeared.
Yesterday, there was another one that disappeared but I didn't take a screenshot.
 

JDubyah

Member
Another issue with claiming this is a 'particulate spraying plane' or chemtrail plane, is that a 'chemtrail' is supposed to differ from a contrail in that a chemtrail is long-lived while a contrail is short-lived. Another trail that's short-lived is a fuel dump, because dumped jet fuel disperses and evaporates pretty quickly.

The camera, or the editing, in this video focuses on the trails of dumped fuel close to the plane, and aside from a brief bit in the beginning, doesn't show these trails disappearing rather quickly behind the aircraft. If the cameraman panned out and allowed us to see the lifespan of the trail, it would show that this doesn't match the profile of a persistent contrail/chemtrail.
 

JFDee

Senior Member.
this doesn't match the profile of a persistent contrail/chemtrail.
Well, I can see why he concentrated on the fact that the trail originated from the wingtips, which is indeed unusual enough. And - as one comment said there - technically, this is a spraying plane ...

I don't know what exactly his beliefs are w/ regard to chemtrails, but he did not purge skeptical comments as far as I'm aware of, which is quite commendable.
 

JDubyah

Member
Well, I can see why he concentrated on the fact that the trail originated from the wingtips, which is indeed unusual enough. And - as one comment said there - technically, this is a spraying plane ...

I don't know what exactly his beliefs are w/ regard to chemtrails, but he did not purge skeptical comments as far as I'm aware of, which is quite commendable.
Semantics maybe.. but it's not a "spray plane" even if it is a plane that's dumping/spraying excess fuel. It's just a regular plane going through a normal, if relatively uncommon, procedure.

But yes, the comments on the YouTube page are at least open to anyone's input.
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
Perhaps Dane expects an overweight plane to just crash land rather than jettison fuel?
Perhaps he should be happy for the families who were on board that they were able to jettison the fuel and land safely.
 

skephu

Senior Member.
Yes, the link was deleted, but the other two posts are still there.

By the way, the maker of the original video of the Thai plane has confirmed that the registration number of the plane is readable on the underside of the left wing in the 1080p version of the video (the youtube version is only 480p). And he confirmed it is HS-TGB.
 
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JRBids

Senior Member.
Dane already answered that preemptively:
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!
 

JFDee

Senior Member.
I did post the link to the original video, without even discussing it in any way. It seems to be all gone now though, including Jay's posts.
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
That was what I was going to do JFDee, just post it in someone's comments and try to slip it through. :)
 

cmnit

Member
This new fuel dumping video is now heavily reposted by supporters of chemtrail theory in Italy, from the FB account "The repugnant pilot".
 
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