Military test releases fiberglas cloud

scombrid

Senior Member.
It's just chaff. They constantly get excited about chaff. There's this famous german example:
http://contrailscience.com/germans-admit-they-used-duppel/

None of the chemtrail believers seem to have noticed that chaff is highly visible on radar but not so much with the naked eye, whereas contrails don't generally show up on weather radar.

Of course dutchsinse is all over this huntsville event as if he discovered something. Debunkers told him it was likely chaff months ago. He deleted those comments to his youtube channel and is now claiming some kind of victory for having identified a non-precipitation return on radar. He thinks it was some kind of weather modification frequency modulation activity.
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
Why would the military carry out this test/experiment/exercise over a moderate to heavily populated area? Don't they have designated ranges for popping stuff out of aircraft?

In an industrial situation you are obliged to dress up; suit, boots, gloves, eye protection; and have a breathing mask when you work with this stuff. If I was a citizen there, I would expect at least a pre-operation notice in the local print media, with instructions about what to do if you find clumps of it.

It is just thoughtless at best and arrogant at worst on the part of the military to operate like this in the civilian domain. Unforch this is not confined to the US - the military the world over works like this; live firing starts bush fires in Canterbury, NZ and in Australia, and noise issues from firing ranges.
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
Why would the military carry out this test/experiment/exercise over a moderate to heavily populated area? Don't they have designated ranges for popping stuff out of aircraft?

In an industrial situation you are obliged to dress up; suit, boots, gloves, eye protection; and have a breathing mask when you work with this stuff. If I was a citizen there, I would expect at least a pre-operation notice in the local print media, with instructions about what to do if you find clumps of it.

It is just thoughtless at best and arrogant at worst on the part of the military to operate like this in the civilian domain. Unforch this is not confined to the US - the military the world over works like this; live firing starts bush fires in Canterbury, NZ and in Australia, and noise issues from firing ranges.

This was my thought too. They noticed when they found strands of fiberglas?! You wear a mask to put that stuff in your attic, it's ridiculous to do this over a populated area.
 

scombrid

Senior Member.
If the particles are large enough to show on radar I doubt there was much risk of breathing it in. It wasn't exactly fine dust of the sort you get when sanding your boat.

Still, a notice to the public or at least civil aviation and meteorology folks in the area would be nice. Typical military arrogance/thoughtlessness. I too would like to know why they did the test where they did. Maybe they do it often and goofed on expected dispersion.

Here in FL the chaff is usually deployed at fairly high altitude out over the water though there are plenty of instances of the stuff drifting over land. Stuff fluttered down into the surf in Satellite Beach a few years ago. I watched on radar some chaff deployed offshore of Paris Island in South Carolina drift all the way to Florida to north east florida, though it was so spread out by the time it got here it was showing diffuse returns on radar and I never found any on the ground.
 
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MikeC

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Why would the military carry out this test/experiment/exercise over a moderate to heavily populated area? Don't they have designated ranges for popping stuff out of aircraft?

Redstone Arsenal is home to US Army's Missile Defence Command and Aviation and Missile Command - it has it's own large test range immediately south of Huntsville - the chaff just didn't blow away like it usually does!
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
This is the chaff found:

chaff.jpg

Many natural things similar to the chaff fly through the sky we don't worry about. Dandelions, milkweed pods, etc, all produce things which look quite similar. Pollen is quite an irritant, but all natural. I'm not saying the chaff was misidentified, just that plenty of stuff is already in the air.

Sycamore:
dried seed pod.jpg

Makes this stuff:

fluff.jpg

Milkweed fluff:

Milkweed-Fluff-Fire-Starting-Tinder.jpg

And by the way, this woman tried spinning milkweed fluff into yarn, and found it to be an irritant. Larger amounts could be poisonous and contain a heart arresting steroid called cardenolide. So, just saying natural not-so-nice stuff is already in the air.
 
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