Las Vegas Concert Mass Shooting

derwoodii

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i not seen this & its quite worthy of time spent watching and listening...
Part one is the how, in part two he discusses his frustration with conspiracy claims & posts that wastes his officers time chasing rabbits down holes

George Knapp interviews Sheriff Joe Lombardo

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/web-extra-george-knapp-interviews-sheriff-joe-lombardo/849308034

Posted: Nov 01, 2017 06:57 PM PDT


Part 2.
4:45 knapp:"some of the conspiracies deal with you, you're in league witht he MGM. "
 
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deirdre

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pony

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More interesting that Haig, in my opinion, is the testimony that SWAT officers actually observed Stephen Paddock take his own life.

From the article deirdre posted above, "But a document that details a telephonic search warrant request from 3:02 a.m. on Oct. 2 said that “as SWAT officers breached room 135, they observed Stephen Paddock place a gun to his head and fire one round.”

This completely runs against what we've been told about the breech, which was that Paddock was dead when SWAT entered the room.

That was the official story right up until Las Vegas Metro released their official [preliminary] report only a week or so ago.
Yet another major adjustment to an already confusing and suspicious timeline.

[edited to adhere to no-click policy]
 
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deirdre

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Yet another major adjustment to an already confusing and suspicious timeline
its not that suspicious. if you read the whole paragraph
you'll see the warrant was written.. what 4 hours after the breach? There was a lot going on, a lot of officers on scene, etc. So whoever wrote the warrant paraphrased the 'swat' team wrong.

SWAT could have said something like "yea he put a gun to his head and killed himself. One round"... because that is what you would assume had happened if you walk into a room and see a guy on the ground with a bullet hole in his head and a gun next to him. And the officer in charge of the warrant thought that meant they saw him. This isn't the movies where actors are reading off a script and can read the other actors parts as well. Humans in real life misinterpret things once in a while in the midst of chaos. It would be more suspicious if they didn't.
 

pony

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Humans in real life misinterpret things once in a while in the midst of chaos.

One could argue, however, that this wasn't Joe and Jane Average off the street, these are tactically trained law-enforcement officers who have encountered situations like this many times before, through both training and real-world experience.

I would expect that, given their knowledge and experience, they would be able to know the different between simply finding a body and actually observing someone placing a gun to their had and firing one round.
 

deirdre

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they would be able to know the different between simply finding a body and actually observing someone placing a gun to their had and firing one round.
what part of 'the guy who wrote out the warrant, probably misinterpreted the team' did I not enunciate clearly enough?.

edited a bit for clarity.
 

NoParty

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...suspicious timeline.
Okay, while I can comprehend how different witnesses--with different sightlines, etc.--
could describe differently, say, watching a body collapse, a second after a loud breach explosion,
with a gun in the hand...what difference, in the big picture, is there if Paddock was seen
a second before he pulled the trigger, a second after, or 3 seconds later?
 

deirdre

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The officer that authored the search warrant (who was one of the guys who breached the room) explained the situation today
 

NoParty

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The officer that authored the search warrant (who was one of the guys who breached the room) explained the situation today
Well, the good news is that MacDonald's is a remarkably straightforward explanation of potentially very confusing situation.

The bad news is that the apparent contradiction--for those who truly want to believe things are
never as they seem--is big enough to inspire 500 dopey YouTube videos with spooky music...
 

deirdre

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ma...r-is-charged/ar-BBICMHt?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
 

pony

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Interesting development, I hope I have this no-click rule figured out.

From this article:

https://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas...ce-evidence-body-cam-footage-must-be-released

 
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