George B
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Interesting!!! In this promo it never quotes one statement from Meghan . . . it implies she agrees with everything that is being stated . . . wonder if she really does?
Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?
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Jay Reynolds
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Ernie Lee
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Thanks! I thought this thread died a unnatural YouTube death. So now she is a comical "chemtrail" EXPERT !
Ernie Lee
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This Website now defunk ?
Muertos is no longer posting there, but the material there is still quite relevant.
Trigger Hippie
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Oh did she really...
I remember her posting here a year ago. Trying to get a straight answer from her on that issue was a little like pulling teeth. I believe her message then was that her whistleblowing activities had nothing to do with chemtrails. She never really answered any questions about what she thought was happening on her former air base.
David Fraser
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Her video from the conference
George B
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Sounds like Meghan has taken off her kid gloves . . . took direct aim at Contrail Science and Metabunk . . . will admit she did a very good job posing questions (Red meat to the audience without supportive information). Her conclusion that the purchase of substances thought to be used in chemtrailing was proof of such was not well supported . . . no quantities were mentioned etc . . . her statement that she has other whistleblowers including pilots and ground maintenance personnel who loaded the chemical canisters is a new item I had not heard before . . . wonder if she will disclose more in the future?
George B
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Her position at Tinker AFB is an interesting sideline . . . Tinker is the central support facility for the Early Warning Aircraft for the Air Force and Navy. The AWACS aircraft routinely fly or orbit around perimeter zones of nations and battle groups to detect and direct interceptor aircraft to neutralize any threat to ground, sea or air assets. I have often wondered if they possessed organic to their mission countermeasures that were used to deflect or defeat offensive attacks on their vulnerable slow flying aircraft. . . some of these alleged canisters (if they exist) could be related to this and would not be advertised to adversaries for obvious reasons . . .
JRBids
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"Disclose" as in "make up"?
Balance
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Kristen makes a lot of claims; aluminum, strontium, barium, taken large volume air samples, taken soil samples, but zero evidence is shown to support this?
"trust me, I'm being honest". Nope, sorry Kristen.
And claiming this site is disinfo - again, zero evidence.
I believe last year, Kristen was asked here to provide evidence and she refused. Yet this site is awash with evidence to the contrary.
"trust me, I'm being honest". Nope, sorry Kristen.
And claiming this site is disinfo - again, zero evidence.
I believe last year, Kristen was asked here to provide evidence and she refused. Yet this site is awash with evidence to the contrary.
She actually makes a good point. There are hundreds of thousands of people in the armed forces. Willing to risk their lives for their country. And yet there are no whistleblowers.
Unfortunately she interprets this as people not realizing they should not be so afraid, rather than the far more likely thing, which is that there are no actual chemtrail whistles to blow.
Unfortunately she interprets this as people not realizing they should not be so afraid, rather than the far more likely thing, which is that there are no actual chemtrail whistles to blow.
Balance
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Yes, there are literally hundreds of thousands of vets who are very angry with their own governments for various reasons. I don't get the impression fear for their safety of that of their loved ones would hold them back from revealing what they know.
David Fraser
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Not wanting to go off topic but there is a popular misconception among the CT community that the military is highly secret when the truth is different. While there are secretive elements it is extremely difficult to hide their existence, after all soldiers love gossip. Vacancies are still advertised and I know if I was looking through the course lists and came across a cool vacancy like Nuclear Warhead Polisher (needs Top Secret clearance) that would be the talking point in the mess that night. You even have to think of the maintenance of secret equipment. Somewhere there is a storeman ordering some Nuclear Warhead Polish. Then there are the troops themselves. They absolutely love taking pictures of themselves, sat astraddle a nuclear warhead with a tin of polish.
Once Rumour HQ gets a hold of a project like this it is very hard to hide. I remember back in the 90's I had to go to a backwater training area in Kirkcudbright in Scotland. We were going for a final weapons check before deployment to Bosnia. All around the camp were handwritten signs saying "This way for the TOP SECRET Rail gun facility. Shhh". As we drove past the building someone had posted a sign "Secret Rail Gun Facility. STOP LOOKING!!" Sufficed to say I find it extremely hard to believe that Rumour HQ has not gotten a hold of a Top Secret operation on a base she has been on and distributed that information accordingly.
Hama Neggs
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That's nothing new.
Where is that in the vid?
She doesn't "disclose" anything. She either makes shit up or refuses to provide details.
George B
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I think it is in the last third of the video . . . I was doing three things at the same time while I was listening . . . seems she has become more certain of her position than ever before . . . would love to hear from those people she says have come forward and told her things . . .
TWCobra
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Airline pilots also but substitute "governments" for "airline managements". Airline pilots aren't constrained by national security laws either.
Balance
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Yes! And no doubt many, many other industries too, contractors, suppliers the list goes on, I'm sure.
independent
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You guys are amazing. Personally, I think Dane Wigington and Kristen are a lot more credible than you. All you do here is argue and treat people with contempt. You never attempt to do your own research. Period. There is a ton of research proving all this geoengineering is going on. Well, luckily people all over the world are waking up to the reality of the covert geoengineering (all you have to do is look up and see the incessant crap-trails in the sky...NOT "CONTRAILS"), and hopefully something can be done to stop it...before the planet is completely destroyed. Peace.
George B
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I challenge you to present verifiable evidence that chemtrails exist beyond your personal observation that the persistent trails in the sky appear to be chemtrails to you. . . I promise I will not treat you with contempt . . .
Svartbjørn
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It happens more often than you think, but not nearly as often as it should... Good example is the VF-22 Osprey. I lost some close friends during the test flight that went down in NC... Military types face the same types of pressures everyone else does.. careers on the line, pressure from above, get the job done. One of the reasons the Osprey got looked into (and fixed) was because of whistle blowers after the crash.
Honestly, if you take the time to look at what's going on and do your OWN research.. you'll see that this chemtrail stuff is a crock... as to Geo-engineering, it might be a good idea if you defined what -exactly- Geo-Engineering is.. because from what ive been able to find it ranges everything from Military control of weather to terraforming and everything in between. Once we have some common ground and know where you're comin' from as far as that goes.. then we can have a conversation (in a different thread) about that. If you're looking for credibility, Id be more than happy to provide my background and experience with ya in IMs.
Hama Neggs
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Same with Russ Tanner.
PS: I'd appreciate it if you could find where she says that in the vid. I listened earlier and I think I would have noticed if she said something like that.
Edit: Found it. It's shortly after 16:00 on that vid.
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Hama Neggs
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Kindly cite where Kristen Meghan backs up anything she says with verifiable evidence. You have the floor.
Pete Tar
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And while you're providing anything of the ton of research 'proving' it is going on, show exactly where people have been treated with contempt here.
Hardly. And no.
Hama Neggs
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The message section of that vid has now been purged of all comments except a few bland approvals- even Kristen's comments are gone.
Balance
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I've quoted this part of your post as others have the rest covered.
By wrongly asserting I (and others) never attempt to do our own research, gives you as much credibility as those you admire - zero. Sorry but starting a conversation with a ranting contradiction, no evidence and easily provable falsities is treating people with contempt - something you appear to oppose?
Jay Reynolds
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How about this for research:
The Claim:
In this video, @ 4:30, Kristen says:
Kristen Meghan said:
The debunking:
What Kristen seems to have been unaware of is that Tinker AFB sits directly within a significant barite deposit where beautiful barite (barium sulfate) mineral "roses" occur. In some places the ground is littered with these, and the area is well known for them existing within the "Garber Sandstone" of the area. It is not uncommon at all to find barium in this area. It is, after all, the official "State Rock" of Oklahoma.
Documentation:
Strontium is also known to naturally occur in the area:
Conclusion:
So, despite having some credentials, and never yet showing her claimed analysis of anything, Kristen has made an incorrect statement that barium and strontium are not found in the soils around Tinker AFB. Hopefully she will correct that, but I doubt so.
Jay Reynolds
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Kristen makes much about threats she received.
The person posting as her mother also made that claim, her boyfriend Nate said so too, she even says it was done in writing.
@ 8:00:
Kristen Meghan said:
She has been asked about this several times, but has failed to respond:
https://www.metabunk.org/search/833664/?q=threats&t=post&o=date&c[thread]=1066
It's sad to see that a year has elapsed with Kristen not putting out anything substantive at all. If any one of us received a threat in writing, we would keep a copy.
Where is this, Kristen? Such a thing is not secret, not bound by security, and all she has to do is show it and name the person who wrote it. Why not?
It's also sad to see that she has begun the process of elaborating on her story and getting attention. Her problem will now be longevity of her position. You see, claims made can garner attention, but even in the comments of her latest video people are starting to beg her for real evidence. She can't go on like that. There is a lifespan of claims with no evidence, even for chemtrails believers. Big talk really isn't worth much, and her position will quickly fade if she doesn't produce.
Jay Reynolds
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@ 6:45
Kristen, if you tell the whole unembellished documented and confirmable truth, backed up by facts and real evidence, there is no emotion and no nervousness.
Everyone is waiting, we've been waiting for a year now. Stand and deliver.
PS, how much of a living do you think to make doing this?
George B
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Jay. . . do you think she will respond?
George B
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Hmmmmm . . . Much more sophisticated approach on this interview . . . large amounts of chemicals without any quantification. . . no justification for chemtrailing except weather modification and control for military and economic purposes . . . no statement at what level chemicals are above background levels just that they are and are found in molecular structure not expected . . . leveraging her position with David Keith's public discussion about geoengineering . . . general statement that people are coming forward without any evidence of this fact . . .
George B
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It is true that her position in the Air Force would allow her to monitor all normal purchases and uses of the above substances . . . however, why would a covert operation allow the detection of the receipt and illegal use of such substances by a routine monitoring process which she would represent? If the volumes of these substances were used for weather modification other than some regional cloud seeding the volumes would be so massive as to beg for discovery and disclosure . . . for example the minimum amount of Sulfuric Acid David Keith has ever discussed to be injected into the stratosphere in one year is 20,000 metric Tons . . . try to sneak those volumes through Tinker AFB without raising suspicions . . .
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Yes, it seems basically her entire evidence is that she claims that some ordinary substances were present in large quantities than she expected. No numbers. No documentation.
Then she just repeats the usual talking point. Nonsense like "The Chinese did it at the olympics" (referring to cloud seeding). And the biological weapons dispersement tests characterized as "experimenting" on people.
Still, I expect it to get a lot of traction. WAC and Infowars teaming up to promote her.
I thought I read somewhere that she works at Infowars now?
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