The jellyfish is back!![]()
Good question.Is this different video of the same event?
The wind direction seems to match.The jellyfish is back!![]()
The shape of the thing doesn't seem to match at all, unless it's taken at an entirely different time before some degradation/deflation has occurred. However, as common as bunches of balloons are, I'd think it more likely that it's a completely different one.Is this different video of the same event? If so, I'd go more ghost now than alien.
Could be -- even if it were to turn out to be more or less at the same time, it is not unlikely that where one balloon/bunch was released or got away, others did as well. "The party is over, let's cut these loose and watch them fly away!"The shape of the thing doesn't seem to match at all, unless it's taken at an entirely different time before some degradation/deflation has occurred. However, as common as bunches of balloons are, I'd think it more likely that it's a completely different one.
it still looks like a bunch of balloonsIs this different video of the same event? If so, I'd go more ghost now than alien.
I suspect that similar "strange objects" can be seen over any fairgrounds almost every day.Could be -- even if it were to turn out to be more or less at the same time, it is not unlikely that where one balloon/bunch was released or got away, others did as well. "The party is over, let's cut these loose and watch them fly away!"
Seems unlikely. Saladin is 30 miles north of the airbase where the Jellyfish was (now labeled Al Taqaddum Airport). The original jellyfish was drifting to the West. Not impossible. But I also don't think it looks the same.Is this different video of the same event?
Seems unlikely. Saladin is 30 miles north of the airbase where the Jellyfish was (now labeled Al Taqaddum Airport). The original jellyfish was drifting to the West. Not impossible. But I also don't think it looks the same.
This one appears to be deliberately mimicking a human being, something like the 'jetpack man' (balloons?) that appeared a few years ago.
L.A.'s Mystery 'Jetpack' Allegedly Captured on Video, But We Still Have Questions
A pilot in Southern California has captured video of what appears to be a person flying a jetpack, the first visual evidence of an unexplained flying object that seems similar to a reported jetpack sighting near the Los Angeles airport in August. But we still have a lot of questions about what we're seeing in the video and local authorities haven't shared any answers.
The video, captured by a pilot for Sling Pilot Academy and uploaded to YouTube, is from December 21 and was captured at an altitude of roughly 3,000 feet near Palos Verdes, California. The island in the background is Catalina Island, according to Sling Pilot Academy.
An American Airlines pilot first reported a jetpack sighting near LAX in August but all we had was a transcript of the pilot's conversation with air traffic control. This new video provides a look at what may have been the same type of aircraft, or could be something else entirely. We simply don't know enough at this point and the video, as you can see below, is somewhat blurry.
Maybe, but I suspect pareidolia has a hand in that -- it's a pretty "ambiguous signal" crying out to be seen as something. My first thought was this guy:This one appears to be deliberately mimicking a human being, something like the 'jetpack man' (balloons?) that appeared a few years /ago.
At 0:40 in the video an alien drone orb goes flying in front of the larger scout ship (or it's a bird/bug and a partially deflated balloon/bag, but aliens sounds way cooler).Now they are apparently invading Moscow!!!
Possibly a helium-based life-form.At 0:40 in the video an alien drone orb goes flying in front of the larger scout ship (or it's a bird/bug and a partially deflated balloon/bag, but aliens sounds way cooler).
External Quote:In 2017, an infrared sensor onboard a force protection aerostat near Al Taqaddum Air Base captured video of an unidentified object. AARO assesses this was a cluster of partially and fully inflated balloons. AARO used full-motion video and pixel analyses to inform its assessment.
A full case resolution report is forthcoming. Watch the full video here
Source: https://www.dvidshub.net//video/960331/al-taqaddum-objectExternal Quote:
In October 2017, an infrared sensor onboard a force protection aerostat near Al Taqaddum Air Base, Iraq, captured 17 minutes of video of an unidentified object.
AARO assesses that the object was a cluster of partially and fully inflated balloons. The object's appearance is consistent with other recorded observations featuring balloon clusters. AARO employed full-motion video analysis and pixel examination techniques to inform its assessment.
AARO assesses that the object did not demonstrate anomalous performance characteristics. AARO used geo-locational data from the aerostat to assess the object's speed and direction of travel.
I hope their forthcoming report on it has details about what they did to reach this conclusion.
Well yeah. UFO fans do not want cases solved and objects that are not, in fact, anomalous, to be removed from their collection of weirdness... they want their aliens! Whether there are any or not.Oh wow, people are salty towards AARO in those tweets in the link.
https://www.dvidshub.net//video/960331/al-taqaddum-objectThe event was filmed and soldiers could access that feed through their work terminals, multiple individual recordings of varying lengths were made this way but they were all of the same video. Cincoski says the event lasted about 17 minutes as far as he knew but it was technically possible that a longer version could exist (if it does, he has neither seen it nor heard about it)
https://gist.github.com/theferrit32/59a4d2c35559a68a3312df64cdad289b
Yes. Commentators on reddit make a good case that this is exactly what it looks like: an AI hallucination loosely based on the original video.The video they post looks weird, like it superficially looks like the Jellyfish video and there's hints of AI use (diffusion) in their comments
Matches with the longer video posted a few posts above :However I am having trouble matching the posted video to any section of the orginal video, even taking into account upscaling..
Got it, thanks!Matches with the longer video posted a few posts above :
https://www.dvidshub.net//video/960331/al-taqaddum-object
Around 4min into the video, (the player shows 13:19 left )
There's debate about how balloons look on FLIR type cameras under different circumstances, are they transparent, reflective, does it depend on the specific materials mylar, foil coated mylar, some sort of paper covering etc.You can bloody see through the balloons. How much more does one need? Are aliens made of jelly?
it's still argument from incredulity. the motion we're accustomed to seeing requires turbulent air (to blow one part this way and the other part that way), but at some altitude, the wind is more steady, and it wouldn't happen.A reddit user in a post raised what I think is an interesting critique of the stable balloon comparison video
Adding to the "argument from incredulity" angle, there's also an assumption that the source video is relatively "raw" and unfiltered infrared, when we know there is a significant amount of processing -- such as contrast enhancement and sharpening on the target -- involved to improve the immediate usefulness of the image to the operator.it's still argument from incredulity. the motion we're accustomed to seeing requires turbulent air (to blow one part this way and the other part that way), but at some altitude, the wind is more steady, and it wouldn't happen.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1kpwum2/comment/mt17mz2/
I take it these are regular latex balloons?Yesterday after I saw that twitter thread I was doing some more thinking about a frame like this that shows the object slightly warmer than most of the ground. If it is balloons at a very high altitude where the air is colder I would expect the balloons to look colder than the ground. But in this video the balloons are at a much lower altitude, I think under 2000 ft, and maybe significantly lower like under 1000ft. So in this frame either the ground is reflecting the cold sky (like the metal containers in the back left), or the ground surface is actually colder than the object. This is at night, and I think the most common scenario would be for the air temp to be colder than the ground temp. Maybe air temp will warm up faster than the ground just before sunrise? I can't recall if this has been well explained in this thread yet. I couldn't find it.
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Doing a little testing at home with some balloons outside with the sky (cold) as the background. Showing that balloons warmer than the background do have clear overlapping effects where areas of intersection look significantly warmer than one balloon by itself. I think everyone here already knew this but in that twitter thread I saw some suggestion that this implied the object was itself generating warmth in those darker areas.
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I will take a quick trip out tonight with some balloons to find some sand after the sun goes down. (r/brandnewsentence?)
Yes my photos above are latex balloons. I have a bunch of foil-lined mylar balloons too but yes they are opaque and highly reflective to IR.I take it these are regular latex balloons?
"Mylar" balloons -- those with reflective foil coating -- look somewhat different in infrared, reflecting the surrounding environment instead of being transparent.
This may be of some help.There's debate about how balloons look on FLIR type cameras under different circumstances, are they transparent, reflective, does it depend on the specific materials mylar, foil coated mylar, some sort of paper covering etc.