One thing I was going to point out about sensor reflections - they all seemed very similar in color and motion (from stabilization.) Which made suspect they were all done with the same phone camera.The sensor reflections/lens flares argue against that.
Not a good analogy. The destruction of SETI equipment wouldn't be taken for an alien signal.Hoaxers simply disrupt scientific progress. Imagine people bombarding SETI radio antennas with fake signals just for fun.
Remi Gaillard : Hey (French) medias ! Remi Gaillard talking. I want to introduce Marie, living in Marsillac in the Herault region.
Girl : that’s it. 00:07 Ok, and Loïc, you live in Martignac in the Gard region.
Man : Exactly.
TV presenter from French TV media TF1: Was an UFO seen in Occitanian sky? Some witnesses published very surprising pictures and videos…
Remi Gaillard (to the girl): What’s your work Marie?
Girl : I’m breeding horses, and I run a small animal refuge.
Remi Gaillard : A refuge with that cow which name is…
Girl: Mô ! Remi Gaillard: Mô, the cow !
TF1 subject: (Marie is talking) “I saw my cow with a circle around…”
Remi Gaillard : And Loic, what are you doing in your life?
Man : I’m a meteorologist, and I create the media @MteoGardHerault.
Remi Gaillard: Here we go, everything explaind.
TF1 Subject : “On social networks, some people think it could be military operations, drones or maybe meteorites. (Loic is then talking) Talking about meteorites, I don’t think it could be that.
I wanted to introduces these folks, because thanks to you guys, and thanks them, we were successful in fooling you!
TF1 subject : “Since some nights, UFO does not seem to be shy…”
Remi Gaillard : “Thanks a lot for sharing that information!”
LCI journalist : Ufologist are working on the topic. For now, we don’t have any information from the ground (another one is saying “So maybe UFOs…”)
Remi Gaillard (talking to medias) : “You often make people believe in anything, and here, I just told to myself “it’s my turn”.
TF1 subject : “If these are really UFOs, it seems they like the region. This lighting ball is seen everynight since Tuesday night, everytime from a different spot.”
I want to say all medias spoke about that. Midi Libre, Paris Match, L’indépendant… every Media… TF1.
TF1 Subject : “This cattle breeder went out to check everything is OK… And she recorded what she saw…”
Girl : I had to tell the biggest lie in my life.
TF1 Subject : “This UFO has been seen from Montpellier, from Narbonne, even from Andorra.”
Rémi Gaillard (talking to the girl) : “In any case, did you see any UFO in your sky ?.... it’s a mistery ! (A goose is running and screaming behind)
Remi Gaillard : “Oh, this is TF1 journalists leaving the place !”
TF1 presenter : “Our correspondent have a lot of imagination!”
Rémi Gaillard : “Thanks a lot to all the people who helped me to create this tickery since a week. It was actually very quick. We had the idea on Tuesday (9th November), and on Friday, it was on TF1… and actually, we made a video around that. [show the video teasing]
Remi Gaillard : It’s when you do nonsense things, that you become…
Others: Nobody !
Remi Gaillard : No… It’s when you do nonsense things, that you become… UFOs ! [end]
Like Mick said they probably recorded the sound afterwards, it's not the sound from the original video. A drone then, with maybe a bit of CGI to enhance the light ? They will have a video to explain it soon.Rémi Gaillard (French pronunciation: [ʁemi ɡajaʁ]; born 7 February 1975 in Montpellier, France) is a French prankster. Well-known for his videos on YouTube, his channel is the 91st most subscribed comedy channel on YouTube with more than 7.2 million subscribers as of September 2021.
Don't forget the helicopters!Then there's competitive 3D flying, which also involves some maneuvers that most people wouldn't "expect" from an airplane.
There are a lot of people making remarks about what is "expected" from certain RC aircraft, and I'm here to tell you there are no expectations you can honestly have without knowing more about the hobby.
First I'd like to introduce you to F3P competition flight, a form of indoor radio controlled aerobics using highly specialized equipment including reversible pitch propellers that allow the somewhat standard looking fixed-wing aircraft to hover, and indeed travel backward through the air. (They are also extraordinarily quiet in flight.)
Then there's competitive 3D flying, which also involves some maneuvers that most people wouldn't "expect" from an airplane. Some of these maneuvers take such skill and precision as to seem almost impossible to someone like me who actually flies RC planes, so I can imagine how someone who has never flown one would react to seeing this.
People keep talking about "amazing moves" that no drone or airplane could ever make, and it just makes me realize that many people have no idea what's currently possible with existing tech. Nothing I've ever seen in one of these UFO videos would be impossible in my opinion.
Lol, it amuses me how both believers and debunkers are super annoyed by this hoax and nobody is like "Hah, he got us. Nice one." I say let's just take it as a lesson never to go by preconceptions, regardless what they may be.
What preconceptions do you think we were under?
I am not annoyed one bit, I actually enjoy hoaxes like this. I am a bit weird yes.Lol, it amuses me how both believers and debunkers are super annoyed by this hoax and nobody is like "Hah, he got us. Nice one." I say let's just take it as a lesson never to go by preconceptions, regardless what they may be.
For me it's about the puzzle, hoax or not. A hoax makes a bit harder to figure out which can be fun. I figured we might see a decent drone light hoax at some point, I am a little disappointed they owned up so soon, but I guess with national TV coverage etc they figured it was time.I am not annoyed one bit, I actually enjoy hoaxes like this. I am a bit weird yes.
What I want you to be aware of is that you might be misinterpreting the motions this aircraft was actually making.I am not disagreeing that what we see in the video (object "stopping", rotating while it is stopped moving and then speeding off again) might be possible with an RC plane (well I have not seen anything like that in the videos you supply either). But the idea of a quadcopter with a light bar underneath sounds to me more probable. They just removed the prop noise.
Did it really do that, or are you misperceiving 3D motions as 2D motions?...object "stopping", rotating while it is stopped moving and then speeding off again...
We might be misinterpreting that but I'd love to see the actual flight path of an RC aircraft that recreates the end of the 1st video.What I want you to be aware of is that you might be misinterpreting the motions this aircraft was actually making.
Did it really do that, or are you misperceiving 3D motions as 2D motions?
Everything you just said has been said thousands of times about common manned aircraft. Then used as proof that, "It couldn't have been an airplane because airplanes can't do that!"
Smaller prop = slower tips. Half the size & twice as fast = equal tip speed.Drones have multiple, smaller, faster rotating props. This model has a single, larger, slower rotating prop (driven by an electric motor). A faster prop is loud because the tips are producing sonic booms.
Not if they own up to it days later.Hoaxers simply disrupt scientific progress.
Mick West 1 : UFOlogy 0I'm leaning towards some kind of organized hoax
I bet that's more misdirection that doesn't look like what we see in the videos.
I'm aware of what you're saying. The larger the diameter, the greater the circumference and therefore the higher the tip speed for any given rpm. At 600 rpm, for example, each blade is completing 10 revolutions per second. If it has to travel farther on a large prop than a small one, it has to travel faster to achieve the number of revolutions.Smaller prop = slower tips. Half the size & twice as fast = equal tip speed.
Yeah, that's another scenario.Maybe... I've also seen kites with reflective tape; put that on a black kite and hit it with a bright light from the ground and all you see is a bright light in whatever shape you make when you apply the tape.
BTW... Isn't this the thing? On the left.
IF... IF, I say... it is indeed a kite that was used, to lift much battery you need a fairly large kite, a kite designed for night flying also has to take into account that there is usually less wind at night, so you need more sail area to lift a given "payload" weight, or a lighter weight materials used to make the kite. Of course that is not an issue if it is towed. My night kites are made of pretty insubstantial stuff, are about 12 feet across the wnigtips, and lift batteries about the size of two AA batteries. (C0uld lift much heavier batteries in decent winds, but you design for the low end of the wind spectrum with night kites.)It doesn’t have any points of similarity with the thing, and looks unnecessarily large for the result they achieved.