Dave51c
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I know, sorry it was interpreted it as such. EMF and pacemakers is a thing though.Your sources don't support that.
I know, sorry it was interpreted it as such. EMF and pacemakers is a thing though.Your sources don't support that.
Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...ter-reported-use-anti-drone-laser-2026-02-27/External Quote:Pentagon shoots down government drone in Texas accident, congressional aides say
By David Shepardson
February 26, 20267:11 PM CST
WASHINGTON, Feb 26 (Reuters) - The U.S. military shot down a U.S. government drone with a laser-based anti-drone system, an accident that prompted the Federal Aviation Administration to bar flights on Thursday in an area around Fort Hancock, Texas, congressional aides told Reuters.
The Pentagon did not immediately comment, but the FAA cited "special security reasons" in its notice about the restrictions on the airspace near the Mexican border.
U.S. Representatives Rick Larsen, Bennie Thompson and Andre Carson, top Democrats on committees overseeing aviation and Homeland Security issues, said in a joint statement the Pentagon reportedly shot down a Customs and Border Protection drone, and criticized the lack of coordination.
The lawmakers said they warned months ago that the White House's decision to sidestep a bipartisan proposal to train counter-drone operators and address coordination issues "was a short-sighted idea."
"Now, we're seeing the result of incompetence," the statement said.
Congressional aides told Reuters the Pentagon was believed to have used the high-energy laser system to shoot down the CBP drone near the Mexican border, in an area that often has incursions from Mexican drones used by drug cartels. CBP and the White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...ter-reported-use-anti-drone-laser-2026-02-27/External Quote:The Pentagon, Federal Aviation Administration and Customs and Border Protection issued a statement saying the military used a "counter-unmanned aircraft system ... to mitigate a seemingly threatening unmanned aerial system operating within military airspace."
The statement added that the incident "took place far away from populated areas and there were no commercial aircraft in the vicinity. These agencies will continue to work on increased cooperation and communication to prevent such incidents in the future."
External Quote:Ranking Members Larsen, Thompson and Carson
Statement After DOD Reportedly Shot Down CBP Drone
"Our heads are exploding over the news that DoD reportedly shot down a Customs and Border Protection drone using a high risk counter-unmanned aircraft system.
We said MONTHS ago that the White House's decision to sidestep a bipartisan, tri-committee bill to appropriately train C-UAS operators and address the lack of coordination between the Pentagon, DHS and the FAA was a short-sighted idea.
Now, we're seeing the result of its incompetence."
It was me! My badTrans community?
Where will the blame eventually fall?
Sorry if it upset you, but I took your post as a joke. The notion that "advanced laser weapons" should be the standard approach toward a simple balloon struck me as being a ludicrous overkill.
A far better weapon, less likely to hit something unintentionally? So why is it that we have had two large chunks of air space shut down over the last couple of weeks?Ignoring whether or not balloons are worth shooting down, lasers do seem like they'd be a far better weapon for that purpose than missiles or guns. Cheaper to fire and less likely to hit something you don't intend to.
Lasers to take down a drone are not the same as the laser pointers the cats chase. Precautions must be guaranteed, and anything that might affect civilian air safety needs a LOT of precautions.This sounds like the FAA thought the military was using their lasers without adequate safeguards (and accidentally shooting down balloons), so they just shut down the airspace until the military agreed to stop.
Unless the thing you intend to hit is a misidentified civilian aircraft, like most of the 'drones' seen and filmed by witnesses in the last two years.Cheaper to fire and less likely to hit something you don't intend to.
I don't see how.Unless the thing you intend to hit is a misidentified civilian aircraft, like most of the 'drones' seen and filmed by witnesses in the last two years.
Firing a weapons laser at a civilian aircraft may not damage that aircraft significantly, but it could seriously inconvenience the pilot.
I don't see how.
https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/lasers/lawsExternal Quote:
Laser strikes on aircraft remain a serious threat to aviation safety. Intentionally aiming lasers at aircrafts poses a safety threat to pilots and violates federal law. Many high-powered lasers can incapacitate pilots flying aircraft that may be carrying hundreds of passengers.
The FAA works closely with federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to pursue civil and criminal penalties against people who purposely aim a laser at an aircraft.
just because the drone is allegedly border control doesn't mean the military is going to tolerate a drone in their space. Border control agents could sell information to the tabloids or China too.This time, though, the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing and neither one is letting the brain know before they start setting off fireworks.
The /s was implied… guess my sense of humor missed the mark.https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/lasers/lawsExternal Quote:
Laser strikes on aircraft remain a serious threat to aviation safety. Intentionally aiming lasers at aircrafts poses a safety threat to pilots and violates federal law. Many high-powered lasers can incapacitate pilots flying aircraft that may be carrying hundreds of passengers.
The FAA works closely with federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to pursue civil and criminal penalties against people who purposely aim a laser at an aircraft.
A laser can blind a pilot, for starters. That's more than an "inconvenience".
Cons:Ignoring whether or not balloons are worth shooting down, lasers do seem like they'd be a far better weapon for that purpose than missiles or guns. Cheaper to fire and less likely to hit something you don't intend to.
That depends a lot on atmospheric conditions, doesn't it? A laser beam attenuates rather quickly if the air is cloudy or dusty. In desert areas it's more likely to be dusty, especially if there's any wind, and massive dust storms have been known to sweep through the region with long-lasting dust hanging in the air after the wind stops. I had to drive at five miles an hour for miles one time when traveling between White Sands and El Paso, in a long line of cars that could only see the lights of the car ahead from a very close distance.Pros:
- not altitude-limited
Yes. Altitude is not an atmospheric condition, however, and since the air at altitude is less dense and less polluted, altitude makes less of a difference for a laser than it does for anything ballistic or with wings.That depends a lot on atmospheric conditions, doesn't it?
Unless the thing you intend to hit is a misidentified civilian aircraft, like most of the 'drones' seen and filmed by witnesses in the last two years.
ATC tends to route civilian aircraft around any war zones where anti-air weaponry is deployed. (Recent examples include Ukraine, Venezuela, and Iran.) That laser qualifies as anti-air weaponry; so the FAA keeps air traffic away from it.To be honest, I don't understand what the "unless" is supposed to mean. Misidentifying a civilian aircraft and firing on it, even if it doesn't destroy it, is certainly a problem and that's why I believe they've shut down the airspace. They are being reckless and sloppy with identification and deconfliction and you can't shoot down a civilian aircraft if there are none above you. But that's not a problem with the weapon system.
If CBP doesn't tell them ahead of time, the military has no way to tell who owns the drone that an Air Defense crew is looking at. Drones don't come with IFF transponders and most are built on roughly the same architectures. They literally all look pretty much alike.just because the drone is allegedly border control doesn't mean the military is going to tolerate a drone in their space. Border control agents could sell information to the tabloids or China too.