Explained: Podesta 14 + Fish [Promotional Tweet for UN Global Sustainability Goals]

Mick West

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On September 25, 2015 , John Podesta tweeted a series of tweets in support of the Global Goals organization. Global Goals promotes 17 Sustainable Global Goals adopted by the UN, with Sept 25 being the day they were formally adopted.

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In the tweet above, he's promoting #14 Life Below Water - "Conserve and sustainably use the oceans, seas and marine resources for sustainable development."

Podesta's email were posted on Wikileaks, and included an exchange with the person who actually posted the tweet, his assistant Milia Fisher. There was a minor exchange about the wording:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44007
The email exchange also included the image for her to post, so that image is also in Wikileaks.

Of course such simple explanations does not stop the Pizzagate (and later QAnon) folk from reading something more sinister into it, for example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5bi0hi/podestas_14_fish_hands_explained/


Or more:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1517841
Many conspiracy theorists are aware of the actual explanation, but they fold it into the conspiracy:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1517841
Little claims like this are obviously ridiculous when you know the context. But it thought it was still a good idea to put up a post with a more detailed explanation. Things are often re-cycled and can become part of a mythology where the origins are forgotten. I've seen people present the image as if it came from Wikileaks, not realizing it was a public tweet. So having an explanatory post with all the references might save people some time and effort later.
 
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Robert Sheaffer

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There is all kinds of craziness being written about supposed 'hidden symbols' in otherwise innocent postings. The number 14 is supposed to be some White Supremacist symbol, for some absurd reason. Also, anyone using the number 88 is supposedly sending out a 'dog whistle' to other Nazis, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and thus 88 represents "Heil Hitler."
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=14/88
 

Mick West

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There is all kinds of craziness being written about supposed 'hidden symbols' in otherwise innocent postings. The number 14 is supposed to be some White Supremacist symbol, for some absurd reason. Also, anyone using the number 88 is supposedly sending out a 'dog whistle' to other Nazis, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and thus 88 represents "Heil Hitler."
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=14/88

14/88 IS a white supremacist symbol. You see it both in graffiti and tattoos. But that's not what is going on here. 14 is just the number of the ocean sustainability goal from 2015. Podesta has a history of interest in oceans, continuing to the present day. He spoke at the Ocean Risk summit earlier this year. https://www.oceanrisksummit.com/
 

Urban

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In the voat link in the op the guy goes on about Thelma in the email. Is there context behind why the email is titles Thelma?
 

Mick West

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In the voat link in the op the guy goes on about Thelma in the email. Is there context behind why the email is titles Thelma?

The email is:

Thelema is a greek word (Θέλημα) meaning "will" or "wish". Strong's Biblical concordance defines it as:
In the Bible it's usually used in the sense of "God's will" ( θεληματος θεου)

In modern Greek it seems to have the usage "errand" (a task outside of home or work, the purpose of a small trip)
https://en.bab.la/dictionary/greek-english/θέλημα
Demos is a Greek name. So it seems likely he was using some allusion or colloquial term for "favor". The fact that he puts it in quotes, and then follows it with (favor) seems to suggest he's offering the definition of the word.

Demos is also a historian who wrote about witch hunts, so he might also have been aware of Aleister Crowley's "law of Thelema" (law of will), "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will."

But I think in the context, it was just an obscure word for "favor", perhaps meant to convey his lack of expectation of it being fulfilled. He says:

"We know you are inundated with such requests but feel we had to give it a try."
 

tbert

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There is all kinds of craziness being written about supposed 'hidden symbols' in otherwise innocent postings. The number 14 is supposed to be some White Supremacist symbol, for some absurd reason. Also, anyone using the number 88 is supposedly sending out a 'dog whistle' to other Nazis, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and thus 88 represents "Heil Hitler."
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=14/88

It's most certainly a racist codeword, 14 for The Fourteen Words[1]:

And 88 for, as you say, a coded reference to Heil Hitler; I've seen 88 on its own, but 14 only as part of 1488.

There are a bunch of other not-so-secretly-racist bits, too; e.g., the Odin's Cross, the Valknut, Yggdrasil.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
 
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Alhazred The Sane

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There is all kinds of craziness being written about supposed 'hidden symbols' in otherwise innocent postings. The number 14 is supposed to be some White Supremacist symbol, for some absurd reason. Also, anyone using the number 88 is supposedly sending out a 'dog whistle' to other Nazis, because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and thus 88 represents "Heil Hitler."
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=14/88

14/88 is pretty well known as a white supremacist symbol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
 
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