Debunked: Sandy Hook. Media staging photos.

[Mick West]

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watch again please and you'll see she literally walks through it, here's a pic of the frames

That's just a motion compression artifact, as explained here:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/de...en-screen-disappearing-nose-with-pozner.1148/

 

[Mick West]

View attachment 5359 someone tell me how this is possible

Also compression artifacts. The thickness of the grey lines just dropped below a certain threshold there because of variation in the relative brightness. Unfortunately it very complicated to explain the precise details. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG#Compression_ratio_and_artifacts

 

[Scottyboi]

compressions don't explain everything mick west, it's hard to believe that the siding reacted like this but not the people who are in line with the "mistake"

 

[Scottyboi]

i'm not a video compression master, but i can tell you that all the shots of the families were in the exact same location with no other footage of around the firehouse

 

[Mick West]

i'm not a video compression master, but i can tell you that all the shots of the families were in the exact same location with no other footage of around the firehouse

Because the media was restricted to the other side of the street, so they would not get in the way.

 

[Mick West]

compressions don't explain everything mick west, it's hard to believe that the siding reacted like this but not the people who are in line with the "mistake"

The siding is bright white. The people are not.

 

[Scottyboi]

i believe the siding compression, but as far as i can see, the woman puts her leg through a planter, what do you see?

 

[Mick West]

i believe the siding compression, but as far as i can see, the woman puts her leg through a planter, what do you see?

Same thing as with Anderson Cooper's nose.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/de...en-screen-disappearing-nose-with-pozner.1148/

Or this guy's nose.

Things vanish or overlap on block boundaries in compression. Motion compression means moving objects seem to overlap in odd ways. In this case the nose goes "behind" the background. In your example the planter goes "behind" the leg.

 

[Scottyboi]

yes "moving objects vanish"........ but the planter vanished, not her leg! can a planter move on its own? lol

 

[Mick West]

yes "moving objects vanish"........ but the planter vanished, not her leg! can a planter move on its own? lol

It does not matter which thing is moving. It's the same result. Motion is relative.

 

[Scottyboi]

i don't know how that much of the planter wouldn't be showing because of "compressions" but if you believe it, go right ahead mick

 

[Mick West]

i don't know how that much of the planter wouldn't be showing because of "compressions" but if you believe it, go right ahead mick

Look into it them. Don't just stop at "I don't know".

Compression works on blocks of 8x8 pixels. But to see where those block are you need to get the original in-camera footage.

 

[Mick West]

See attached HD clip, then tell me it's fake:

(Source: )

 

[Mick West]

The raw frames in question show little, if any, overlap, hence it's likely the artifacts seen arose via subsequent re-compression of lower quality versions downloaded from YouTube.

 

[Scottyboi]

not trying to be dumb, but i didn't hear or see one ambulance in that video, i saw almost ten elementary kids out of the whole school that was escorted to the firehouse, and i saw all cops, no medical personel

 

[Scottyboi]

The raw frames in question show little, if any, overlap, hence it's likely the artifacts seen arose via subsequent re-compression of lower quality versions downloaded from YouTube.

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great cropping of her leg, obviously you know how to photoshop

 

[Mick West]

View attachment 5359 someone tell me how this is possible

The siding is visible in portions of the higher quality video. But you can see it's just over exposed, it's the same thing with the woman's hair over her forehead.

 

[Mick West]

great cropping of her leg, obviously you know how to photoshop

Those are raw unedited frames. It's in the original video, check it out for yourself before making accusations.

 

[Scottyboi]

did and posted it myself already, just not as big of a picture, idk why you had to repost it, but anyways i already said i believed you on the siding, because i've seen it happen before

 

[Mick West]

Do you still think there's something wrong with the original video, with the leg/planter?

 

[Mick West]

You are posting a frame from a very low quality copy of the video (high compression, low resolution), where the compression makes it look like the leg is in front of the planter.

The frames from the original raw video show that the leg goes behind the planter.

Do you wish to dispute this?

 

[Mick West]

(sorry I accidentally deleted the photo you just posted, as I thought there was a duplicate post. You can repost it if you like)

 

[Scottyboi]

no thanks i'll just leave this forum if all your gonna say is compression, have fun on your high horse

 

[Mick West]

no thanks i'll just leave this forum if all your gonna say is compression, have fun on your high horse

Well, I encourage you to look into it yourself, and validate or disprove anything I said.

And consider if people are making videos like the knee/planter thing using low resolution video when the original video is available, then you really have to consider how much credence you can give them.

Don't don't take the opposing view by default. Think for yourself.

 

[Scottyboi]

my view is that a leg goes through a planter, i can see, i don't need to think and speculate how a video "messed up"

 

[Bruno D.]

my view is that a leg goes through a planter, i can see, i don't need to think and speculate how a video "messed up"

Why would you base your arguments on low quality images if better quality images are available?

 

[Scottyboi]

i took that from a 1080p video, sorry it's low quality lol

 

[Mick West]

i took that from a 1080p video, sorry it's low quality lol

Converting a low quality video to 1080p does not make it 1080p quality.

The images I posted are from the original video. You can't get better quality than the original. This frame is from the original video:

And it shows that she goes behind the planter.

If you continue to disagree, then I can only assume you are trolling.

 

[Scottyboi]

well i'm happy you found this, link me to the video please so i can look for myself and make my own disection

 

[Mick West]

well i'm happy you found this, link me to the video please so i can look for myself and make my own disection

I already did.


Link to 720p MP4 file is below the video on the Vimeo page. http://goo.gl/ASUj8U

 

[Mick West]

I also also already gave you a clip from this video:
https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/138097303-clip-mov.5362/

 

[Scottyboi]

thanks i barely see it, it's believable

 

[JRBids]

View attachment 5359 someone tell me how this is possible

What is your point? You think this was filmed in front of a green screen or something? I'm sorry, that is a ridiculous "theory".

 

[Scottyboi]

yes i did, it looks as if the shed is too close, this is the only video of the shed being that close and not being blocked by other cars, i found it weird how easily you could see the boards on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QbUaiRdTUEw

 

[Scottyboi]

i understand camera lenses and so on, it just looked unreal, i understand this is debunked

 

[nanotchi]

What would the point of greenscrenning this be? lol

 

[JRBids]

i understand camera lenses and so on, it just looked unreal, i understand this is debunked

I don't understand "looking unreal"? Like how does unreal look? Like a movie? Photoshop?

 

[deirdre]

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watch again please and you'll see she literally walks through it, here's a pic of the frames

she cant walk through it shes no where near it. I think whats confusing you is the top edge of the planter isn't square to start with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNmEUhvFxtM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8fhXAP8UBM

 

[deirdre]

oh and why is her thigh in your pic like a hulk thigh when its not like that in mine. hmmm.

 

[Scottyboi]

What would the point of greenscrenning this be? lol

to show families crying about kids who aren't really dead, if this truly was a conspiracy theory, but this is already debunked as it is not a green screen