Debunked: FEMA Coffins (plastic grave liners)

Grieves

Senior Member
I'm not even sure its that extreme an environmental concern... certainly not more-so than bottled water... but it certainly gives me the willies.
 

SpaceCow

New Member
Those coffin covers look completely normal to me... they got a great deal, people are always gonna die so they stocked up.


However there is something ominous about all those blue bins... And all those nissans must be an evil design, nobody buys nissans.
... OMG!! I have it they are gonna kill us all but not bury us, they're gonna chop us up put us into one of those blue containers. Then
load as many as they can into a nissan and drive them into the grand canyon... it's the only thing that makes sense!!
 
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Unregistered

Guest
Maybe there is a worry of cross contamination from a virus outbreak.... when they start testing mass amounts of sick/dying/dead people. ( from the Plague...that's coming soon to a hospital near you.)
 
U

Unregistered

Guest
These are cremation containers. The U.S. patent number is 5,425,163. The patent says it's constructed from a material that produces no atmospheric polluting gases or vapors when burned. They are designed for people who have died from disease. It say, "Today, more than ever, it has become most imperative to treat the deceased with a great deal of care in avoiding the spread of infection. There is a great need for a cremation container for the deceased that is able to contain the corpse and fluids expelled therefrom in such a manner that the spread from infection is totally avoided.
 
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Unregistered

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Sorry I forgot to add the patent number so you can look it up for yourself. The patent number is 5,425,163. The title is "A multi-functional cremation container for a cadaver is provided"
 

Landru

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Staff member
These are cremation containers. The U.S. patent number is 5,425,163. The patent says it's constructed from a material that produces no atmospheric polluting gases or vapors when burned. They are designed for people who have died from disease. It say, "Today, more than ever, it has become most imperative to treat the deceased with a great deal of care in avoiding the spread of infection. There is a great need for a cremation container for the deceased that is able to contain the corpse and fluids expelled therefrom in such a manner that the spread from infection is totally avoided.

Read the whole thread. The company that manufactures these explains what they are for. Burial vaults.
 

David Fraser

Senior Member.
Wow have I just read correctly? A grave liner comes with a 50 year warranty? Never heard of a grave liner, but I am certain I won't need a warranty if I needed one.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
I have been told that the reason many cemeteries in the US, require burial vaults, is because we use riding mowers to mow. It is the same reason that upright gravestones are not allowed in many of the same area. Another concern, I am sure is contamination of nearby water sources, like streams and such. Look at the size of many American cemeteries.

This is about ONE of our local cemeteries "The cemetery contains approximately 350 developed acres with over 135,000 interments/entombments and over 300,000 property owners. " A large major creek runs through the property---
 
U

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Real casket covers are made of steel and are used when you have a plot for more than one person.
If there is not enough space for 18inches or 28 inches of dirt to ultimatly be on top.

Then a steel liner must be used for the top which the coffin would be inside so theres no collapse when the wood/wicker/etc rots and collapses.

A PLASTIC LINER SUCH AS THIS DOES NOT QUALIFY

The fact is that you dont get to know why they need 600mill bullets,900k body liners,65 active fema camps,cameras on your lawn monitoring new digital electricity boxes,etc etc...... The worlds gonna be digitally monitored in everyway possible as the ellite live underground and the face of the planet turns into the ghetto,and they know it ... And thats all I got 2 say about that.
 

Mick West

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Real casket covers are made of steel and are used when you have a plot for more than one person.
If there is not enough space for 18inches or 28 inches of dirt to ultimatly be on top.

Then a steel liner must be used for the top which the coffin would be inside so theres no collapse when the wood/wicker/etc rots and collapses.

A PLASTIC LINER SUCH AS THIS DOES NOT QUALIFY

The fact is that you dont get to know why they need 600mill bullets,900k body liners,65 active fema camps,cameras on your lawn monitoring new digital electricity boxes,etc etc...... The worlds gonna be digitally monitored in everyway possible as the ellite live underground and the face of the planet turns into the ghetto,and they know it ... And thats all I got 2 say about that.

Look up "grave liner". You'll see plenty made from plastic, and they are used for single plots. You are talking about something else.
 

Mattnik

Moderator
Real casket covers are made of steel and are used when you have a plot for more than one person.
If there is not enough space for 18inches or 28 inches of dirt to ultimatly be on top.

Then a steel liner must be used for the top which the coffin would be inside so theres no collapse when the wood/wicker/etc rots and collapses.

A PLASTIC LINER SUCH AS THIS DOES NOT QUALIFY

The fact is that you dont get to know why they need 600mill bullets,900k body liners,65 active fema camps,cameras on your lawn monitoring new digital electricity boxes,etc etc...... The worlds gonna be digitally monitored in everyway possible as the ellite live underground and the face of the planet turns into the ghetto,and they know it ... And thats all I got 2 say about that.

That isn't true - a quick search tells me you can several types:

Pricing

Like caskets, the prices of burial vaults or containers are determined by their design, ease of construction and the types of material used. The following is a range of prices for the vaults and grave liners used in this province:



  • Wooden shell $200 - $300
  • Plastic vault $750 - $950
  • Concrete vault $1,150 - $1,350
  • Steel vault $1,250 - $1,450
http://www.carnells.com/help-support-article.aspx?id=41
 

Landru

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Staff member
Real casket covers are made of steel and are used when you have a plot for more than one person.
If there is not enough space for 18inches or 28 inches of dirt to ultimatly be on top.

Then a steel liner must be used for the top which the coffin would be inside so theres no collapse when the wood/wicker/etc rots and collapses.

A PLASTIC LINER SUCH AS THIS DOES NOT QUALIFY

The fact is that you dont get to know why they need 600mill bullets,900k body liners,65 active fema camps,cameras on your lawn monitoring new digital electricity boxes,etc etc...... The worlds gonna be digitally monitored in everyway possible as the ellite live underground and the face of the planet turns into the ghetto,and they know it ... And thats all I got 2 say about that.
Can you point out one FEMA camp?
 

jvnk08

Senior Member.
The fact is that you dont get to know why they need 600mill bullets,900k body liners
Obviously they are terrible shots and plan on missing ~95% of the time.

Unregistered said:
65 active fema camps,
This always gives me a chuckle. Please, show us these camps.

Unregistered said:
cameras on your lawn monitoring new digital electricity boxes,
News to me.

unregistered said:
etc etc......
I think that's about all you have actually.

unregistered said:
The worlds gonna be digitally monitored in everyway possible as the ellite live underground and the face of the planet turns into the ghetto,and they know it ... And thats all I got 2 say about that.

So the elites are going to digitally monitor every inch of the surface ghetto which they have no interest in living in from their lavish underground bunkers?
 
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guest

Guest
Didn't Fema state that these containers are for deaths by natural disasters or places in the world where there is mass death?I thought I read that they were intended to be used to put multiple bodies in and with the lid on makes it airtight so the decomposed body wouldn't stink.also with the lid on you can stack them up on one another?
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
Didn't Fema state that these containers are for deaths by natural disasters or places in the world where there is mass death?I thought I read that they were intended to be used to put multiple bodies in and with the lid on makes it airtight so the decomposed body wouldn't stink.also with the lid on you can stack them up on one another?

No they did not. Conspiracy theorists made that suggestion. These are just normal grave liners, and there is zero connection to Fema.
 
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guest

Guest
Oh it looks like what I heard must of been from the patent.looking at one of the post above pretty much sounds like what I heard.Is that the actual language in the patent? If so fema could use them in a disaster with thousands of dead bodies to store them until burial couldn't they?
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
Oh it looks like what I heard must of been from the patent.looking at one of the post above pretty much sounds like what I heard.Is that the actual language in the patent? If so fema could use them in a disaster with thousands of dead bodies to store them until burial couldn't they?

No. They would use body bags, which are vastly more efficient.
 

Pferd

New Member
Hi, lurker here-- I thought I might give a little (anecdotal) insight from someone who worked some years at a funeral home/cemetery:

"It seems like a bit of a scam, as they are not really needed for anything. Their usage seems mostly a requirement of individual cemeteries, rather than law."

Yes and no. You're correct that is, in most areas, up to the discretion of the cemetery (areas prone to flooding sometimes require it-- which is where these cheap plastic ones are especially handy) but I wouldn't go so far as to say they serve no purpose.

Mostly, their function is to protect the landscaping from getting uneven or unsightly in the long-term. This is economically sound for two people: the cemetery owners and the city/county/etc. The cemetery owner gets to keep landscaping costs down (fewer holes to fill, and easier to mow/weed) while if some day in the future the cemetery folds it will be cheaper for the city (and taxpayer) for upkeep.

Granted, you the user are having to pay sometimes several hundred dollars for it-- but in my experience the type of people who go for being buried or having their loved ones buried (as opposed to cremation) would rather pay this than have a sink hole in front of their tombstone fifty to a hundred years from now. (I say 'people who go for it' because I for one am donating my body to science, especially after working in the death industry.) I can't speak for others, but we often threw in the cheapest vault as a 'freebie' and offered other choices as upgrades- so we kept a few stocked, ordering them in batches of 5-10 as we needed them.

"...Why Vantage are the only known company storing them in this fashion and quantity?"

and

"Georgia has a population of about 10 million, and a death rate of about 10/1000 annually. So that's 100,000 deaths per year. It seems pretty likely that they supply surrounding states as well, so you are talking about hundreds of thousands of burials per year."

Vantage is the Walmart of vault providers. Far and away, every funeral home or cemetery we worked with bought either Vantage or Trigard (The place I worked was located in Kansas, by the way, but we did regular out-of-state interments.) They're the cheapest, and I'm sure it has something to do with the amount of stock they keep of both plastic and cement vaults on hand. The special thing about the plastic ones are how easy they are to store. You can't stack cement vaults like that on top of one another-- so it would make sense when you can stack them vertically like that to make a ton of them and store them in a fraction of the space, so you can worry about the other products (caskets, cement and composite vaults) you produce.

As for storing so many, I'd also like to mention that many families choose to bury right away for religious or personal reasons (I've seen some released from the medical examiners office to interment within the same calendar day.) You have to always be ready at a moments notice. Having far more than you need makes sense, especially when your purchases are paying x-hundred dollars for a lump of plastic.
 

mwburden

New Member
I like this line that came to me in a spam email:

> Is FEMA preparing for some unknown large-scale event?

I sure hope so, since that kinda IS FEMA's job and all.....
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
As a friend said, somewhere there is most likely a plan for an alien invasion.

Some years ago, I was in charge of a camping event on Memorial Day weekend for some 300-400 people. We get bad weather that time of year, including tornadoes. I went down to our local Emergency Preparedness office with a top map of the site, and the camping areas marked and I asked them what should we do, if a tornado came our way. It wasn't needed, but I slept better knowing it was there. BTW, some years late that same event had changed sites and at least there there was a building, and a tornado did come close. They managed to get all the people, about 15 horses and assorted dogs ALL into one building---It was built to withstand an F3 storm
 
U

Unregistered

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so just because that one company says so, that makes it so huh... ok!!!
 

Landru

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Staff member
so just because that one company says so, that makes it so huh... ok!!!
The company that make the grave liners provide an explanation for their product that is reasonable and is supported by the facts. There is nothing that I've seen that contradicts their explanation. Do you have anything that contradicts the story?
 

Mick West

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Staff member
so just because that one company says so, that makes it so huh... ok!!!

Everyone who has anything to do with grave liners agrees these are grave liners, and there's nothing suspicious about them. Millions of them are used every year.
 
U

Unregistered

Guest
It was said that the CDC leases that land... why would the CDC pay for the land?
 
U

Unregistered

Guest
But it is weird.

No other nation on earth has them.

The American public themselves don't seem to recognise them and they are the ones allegedly buying them 'to protect their coffins from damage' or forced to buy them to 'protect the cemetery from collapsing'.

If we accept that thousands of people have 'pre bought', it still does not explain why they have been manufactured and stored thus incurring storage costs/problems, let alone giving rise to Armageddon theories.

Does anyone know how long they been around, how they came about, what laws are invoked to ensure usage... I mean, this is interesting stuff really.

Vaults have been required in graveyards as long as I can remember (at least since the 80s), but the minimum was always a concrete vault (so they wouldn't collapse and would remain sealed).

It doesn't make sense, though, as a conspiracy theory. Most genocides have involved mass graves and/or cremation throughout history, so why wouldn't the same apply here.
 
U

Unregistered

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I have lived in Ga. all my life. Relatives and friends live close the these so called locations and have never seen them. However, i know two funeral home directors. They have never seen
or used any of these types of coffins used. No one i have ever talked to has. The reason why is that they are not used in current times. They are being made for another reason.
 

Mick West

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Staff member
I have lived in Ga. all my life. Relatives and friends live close the these so called locations and have never seen them. However, i know two funeral home directors. They have never seen
or used any of these types of coffins used. No one i have ever talked to has. The reason why is that they are not used in current times. They are being made for another reason.

They are not coffins. They are burial vaults. Many cemeteries require their use.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
I know that cemeteries here in Dallas require them, I remember having to buy one for my parents graves.

Just because folks haven't 'seen' them doesn't mean they haven't been there for years. Most folks do not pay a lot of attention to their environment
 
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The Gray One

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Thank you God! I am so glad I found this. It answers my questions AND confirms my doubts about this theory. I have to agree that the core problem with this conspiracy is logistics closely followed by cost. If I were in charge of exterminating a large number of people even under plague conditions I would just stack them up and douse them with kerosine then light a match. Thank you everyone for your posts.
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
Let's put more non-biodegradable plastic crap in the ground to prevent our decomposing bodies from re-entering the environment. Seems like an overly expensive way to bury yourself in a the equivalent of a few thick trash bags. :eek:

I think it keeps the formaldehyde from entering the groundwater. :)
 

David Fraser

Senior Member.
I think it keeps the formaldehyde from entering the groundwater. :)

I had never heard of grave liners and I have read a number reasons for them but I think the main one is due to cemetary maintenance and grave subsidence. In essence I think people are been sold something they don't really need. This sounds morbid but I used to take my kids for walks through the cemetaries where we lived. Now and again we would see the workers clearing/recycling old graves, usually about 150 years old. The coffin came out in a remarkable condition. When we planned mass graves in the army the groundwater was only taken into account if the local water supply was direct and untreated. Then again some body bags are seemingly airtight, similar to most coffins and that inhibits decomposition.

Just reading that back it must make me look quite odd. ;-)
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
Today they use heavy equipment for maintenance and for digging graves. I understand that they caused the problems with grave collapse. Folks used to not even walk over a grave.

I have several dogs buried in an area of a human cemetery (Someone wealthy bought a large area of this OLD cemetery and it was made a pet cemetery). They still hand dig the graves, both human and pet.
 
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