I came across a Moon landing hoax claim yesterday that was sent to me via video. I searched this forum and elsewhere on the internet and I did not find a place where this claim was talked about. If it has already been discussed here, I apologize and can you please point me to the location of the discussion?
Brief summary of the claim: Apollo 15-17 had a TV rover camera. This camera sent live video signal down to Earth via an umbrella shaped high gain antenna. Both the camera and the HGA are attached to the rover. The Earth subtends about 2 degrees of the sky from the moon so an optical view finder was needed to correctly point the antenna. According to NASA, it needed to be pointed pretty perfectly using the viewfinder or else there would be serious degradation of signal. Basically, Earth needs to be in the bulls-eye of the viewfinder which is a 2.5 degree circle. Earth based news crews who broadcast images from remote locations via satellite, must use stanchions to steady their broadcast trailer, because any oscillation will interrupt the signal. The crux of the argument: the astronauts shake the buggy violently any time they touch it which should interrupt or degrade the signal significantly, but the picture is fine.
Links to the video are at the bottom. They are .webm videos hosted on 4chan, so you may have to do a 4chan Captcha to see it, and possibly reload after doing the Captcha. I did download them and try to upload them here as video, but the forum doesn't accept .webm as a video format or a file format
From viewing the video, I assume this part of a much longer video with other claims in it. Unfortunately I do not know the name of the original video.
Transcription of Video Clip 1(1m44s in length):




Transcription of Video Clip 2(1m57s in length):




Transciption of Video Clip 3(1m39s in length):
End Trascriptions
Unfortunately, I can't provide screenshots for part 3 because it is pointless, you would need to look at the shaking yourself. I do agree with the narrator that it is a lot of shaking, but there could be several reasons why this doesn't matter.
Here are the things that Jump out at me as questionable, missing info or just plain wrong with this claim:
Again, I could not upload these .webms on the forum so here are the links:
Original Links:
Moon Landing Hoax 1 (1m44s)
Moon Landing Hoax 2 (1m57s)
Moon Landing Hoax 3 (1m39s)
Brief summary of the claim: Apollo 15-17 had a TV rover camera. This camera sent live video signal down to Earth via an umbrella shaped high gain antenna. Both the camera and the HGA are attached to the rover. The Earth subtends about 2 degrees of the sky from the moon so an optical view finder was needed to correctly point the antenna. According to NASA, it needed to be pointed pretty perfectly using the viewfinder or else there would be serious degradation of signal. Basically, Earth needs to be in the bulls-eye of the viewfinder which is a 2.5 degree circle. Earth based news crews who broadcast images from remote locations via satellite, must use stanchions to steady their broadcast trailer, because any oscillation will interrupt the signal. The crux of the argument: the astronauts shake the buggy violently any time they touch it which should interrupt or degrade the signal significantly, but the picture is fine.
Links to the video are at the bottom. They are .webm videos hosted on 4chan, so you may have to do a 4chan Captcha to see it, and possibly reload after doing the Captcha. I did download them and try to upload them here as video, but the forum doesn't accept .webm as a video format or a file format
From viewing the video, I assume this part of a much longer video with other claims in it. Unfortunately I do not know the name of the original video.
Transcription of Video Clip 1(1m44s in length):
Transcription of Video Clip 2(1m57s in length):
Unfortunately, I can't provide screenshots for part 3 because it is pointless, you would need to look at the shaking yourself. I do agree with the narrator that it is a lot of shaking, but there could be several reasons why this doesn't matter.
Here are the things that Jump out at me as questionable, missing info or just plain wrong with this claim:
- The strength of the signal in dBs needed for a decent live video at the receiving end on Earth is not clearly shown. The antenna broadcasts with a nominal gain of 24 dB and the edge of the 10 degree cone is 20.5 dB, but it does not specify clearly that 20.5 dB is the limit for good signal.
- Is the footage shown actually recorded from the broadcast or are they the recorded tapes? I am fairly certain the video was also recorded locally. I wasn't alive during the actual broadcasts, but I also doubt they were perfect. Perhaps the footage shown in the video is from the recorded tapes and the broadcast tapes did have some signal degradation during shaking.
- The claim that news crews who send images via satellite should have an easier time because geo-stationary satellites are closer sounds totally bunk to me. Satellites are 9-12 meters. And the cone would not have time to grow as large because the distance is shorter. The 10 degree cone would be massive from the moon to earth given the distance. If I am not mistaken, given the figures by the video, the circle it would create by the time it reached Earth, would take up 10 degrees of the sky, as compared to the 2 degrees that Earth does.
- The sighting scope shows a little less than 18 total degrees, the bulls eye is supposedly 2.5 degrees. This means that the 2 and a half squares from the center on each side is probably 20.5 dB and the center is 24 dB. Again, I don't know how many dBs on the receiving end are required for a clear picture.
- The rover's camera could be controlled remotely. Perhaps the ability to pan and tilt makes it more susceptible to shocks and bouncing. It looks like the rover is shaking a lot, but perhaps small shocks just shake the camera a lot and don't affect the antenna as much. Just because the camera is shaking doesn't prove that the antenna is.
Again, I could not upload these .webms on the forum so here are the links:
Original Links:
Moon Landing Hoax 1 (1m44s)
Moon Landing Hoax 2 (1m57s)
Moon Landing Hoax 3 (1m39s)
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