PCWilliams
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I really hope this lawsuit sees a court room. This is the worst thing they can do for their case.
I'm trying to publicise it and encourage them over at ATS![]()
They also have a major problem in that just about all the tests so far are showing perfectly normal levels of the various things that they test for. This is something that Al DiCicco has consistently ignored, but is obviously going to be a major issue in any lawsuit. How can they sue someone for their normal levels of aluminum and barium?
Yes I really do want them to see this through.
External Quote:"PRESS RELEASE
Contact: Joseph Marman
Phone: (916) 721-3324
Fax: (916) 721-3633
...E-mail: marmanla@localnet.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 9, 2012
DOCUMENTATION NEEDED FOR LAWSUIT
Joseph Marman, a practicing attorney in California, is filing a lawsuit against weather modification programs also known as stratospheric aerosol geoengineering programs and Chemtrails. Documentation and evidence is needed to carry out any legal action.
Below is a list of information that is being requested:
1. The best solid evidence that will connect these programs in the skies to the toxics on the ground.
2. The best evidence connection to which and/or whose jets are spraying these chemicals. Perhaps we could give coordinates of times, directions, locations, etc. of the jets that we are watching doing the spraying, and ask the FAA to give us the information as which jets were in our skies at that time.
3. Which agencies shall we sue? Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Department of Defense, North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), California-EPA, Air or Water Quality Control Boards, Air Force, Evergreen Air Facility in Tucson, CIA ? We would argue that these agencies have a statutory obligation to watch and safeguard our air and water, and they have breached their legal obligation to protect the public, despite the evidence we have that gives us enough information that the governmental agencies should follow up and get answers. Also, our theory could be loss of sun light that helps our planet prosper and be healthy.
4. There should be some provisions in Federal or State Codes for us to seek not only compensation for harm, but also get an order from the Court to force the Agencies to take action, as well as recover attorney's fees for us undertaking the lawsuit.
5. Perhaps there are others that know of suits or attorneys that have undertaken these suits before and which laws we should sue under; be it either Federal or State laws and courts.
6. We also want evidence regarding the type and nature of the harm on the ground, to animals, water and humans, that can be connected to the barium, strontium, aluminum and other chemicals suspected of being aerosol sprayed as part of these programs.
7. Eventually we will need expert witnesses to be able to testify, in court, to convince the jury or the judge that this is actually happening, and it needs to be stopped.
Be aware that if we sue these agencies and we lose, we could be subjected to costs of defense of the suit. It may or may not include attorney's fees in our cost bill if we sue and lose, so it is important to have solid evidence before we file the suit.
If anyone has information that they would like to provide to Mr. Marman, please forward it to the following address:
Law Offices of Joseph H. Marman, Esq.
8427 Auburn Boulevard, Suite 145
Citrus Heights, CA 95610-0394 "
From the Geoengineering FB page
Seems that someone up above was correct about the choice of lawyer
External Quote:"PRESS RELEASE
Contact: Joseph Marman
Phone: (916) 721-3324
Fax: (916) 721-3633
...E-mail: marmanla@localnet.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 9, 2012
DOCUMENTATION NEEDED FOR LAWSUIT
Joseph Marman, a practicing attorney in California, is filing a lawsuit against weather modification programs also known as stratospheric aerosol geoengineering programs and Chemtrails. Documentation and evidence is needed to carry out any legal action.
Below is a list of information that is being requested:
1. The best solid evidence that will connect these programs in the skies to the toxics on the ground.
External Quote:Al DiCicco: this is our attorney. Please do not bombard him with calls and questions. We now need to raise $1000 for some expenses for Joe. He is taking the case pro bono, but we will have some costs.
Just checked, and it was Firepilot who guessed correctly about the lawyer. You win a weeks supply of facemasks.
Perhaps it might be worth something to send the factual disproofs of the hoax direct to this Joseph Marman chap. If he alone can see reason this whole farce might just be averted.
I'd love to know the hoax had been exposed in open court, believe me. I know they do deserve it in some ways, but as a decent human being, I'd rather these unfortunate people don't have any more of their money squeezed out of them under the banner of this deceitful cause. The 'promoters' may lose some money - and they certainly deserve it - but it's the ordinary 'followers' who will surely be hit worst when the time comes to settle up.
It seems very unlikely that they will get such evidence. There have been attempts by chemtrail believers on the Facebook page to try to discuss this, but they have been rebuffed as shills.External Quote:1. The best solid evidence that will connect these programs in the skies to the toxics on the ground.
2. The best evidence connection to which and/or whose jets are spraying these chemicals. Perhaps we could give coordinates of times, directions, locations, etc. of the jets that we are watching doing the spraying, and ask the FAA to give us the information as which jets were in our skies at that time.
It's not going to get to court. Marman may be a truther, but he's also asked for some reasonable evidence before moving forward:
It seems very unlikely that they will get such evidence. There have been attempts by chemtrail believers on the Facebook page to try to discuss this, but they have been rebuffed as shills.External Quote:1. The best solid evidence that will connect these programs in the skies to the toxics on the ground.
2. The best evidence connection to which and/or whose jets are spraying these chemicals. Perhaps we could give coordinates of times, directions, locations, etc. of the jets that we are watching doing the spraying, and ask the FAA to give us the information as which jets were in our skies at that time.
It's a shame though, as some rigorous scientific investigation would do wonders to clear up the confusion associated with the chemtrail theory.
Barium has Magnesium in it????External Quote:"Robert M Forgette Yes, fires burn hotter due to the Aluminum saturated soil and plant life. 5 hours ago
[Broken External Image]:[URL]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/161428_100001650925480_163774081_q.jpg[/URL] David Strickler Sr. Barium is the bad stuff for wildland fires,due too magnesium that is in Barium. 5 hours ago
Kenny Field You've probably hit the cause of the wildfires... aluminum and barium, and those fires are usually set by an arsonist. 4 hours ago
Fred Pinard everything is more energized...why do ya think yer ears are ringin more lately? We are channeling the frequencies...more like we are the brunt of the frequencies. 3 hours ago
Only 10 applications to join is really no better than none as far as a cause like this, which is the point. But also I wonder, with so little in the way of dedicated interest and monetary support, what are their criteria for 'rejection' of that 80%?They have rejected 8 members, and accepted 2. So I don't think they really are getting much response at all.
I see that Al Dicicco's facebook page has been deleted. The group has a new home page:
http://chemtrailgeoengineeringlawsuit.webs.com/
I see that Al Dicicco's facebook page has been deleted. The group has a new home page:
http://chemtrailgeoengineeringlawsuit.webs.com/
They also have a new spokesman, Robert M. Forgette, who sems intelligent enough to figure it all out.
I doubt that he will last long, unless he is being deceptive. I sense some instability with him, somehow, and paranoia.
He runs a security device firm in California:
http://www.murrietasecurityservice.com/about_us.html
I definitely intend on joining your group, Rob!