Al DiCicco updated the description.
EVIDENCE DUE MAY 15 2012.
This group is for those interested in filing a lawsuit for Geoengineering and Chemtrails that have evidence of Chemtrail toxins such as Barium, Aluminum, Strontium and other toxins in their blood or hair, urine, soil, rain water, we plan file a complaint in all 11 US Federal Courts and Courts abroad. We now have 1177 potential Plaintiffs and we are growing fast now.
Thanks to all that have joined. This is global and similar actions may be brought in other countries. Since the group was started, we have since done more testing, rain water was tested and was high in Aluminum and Barium and Strontium.
There is an ongoing effort to discredit and placate THE PUBLIC by certain people regarding this issue. Many doctors do not test for heavy metal toxicity on patients. If they don't, I suggest a new doctor.
PLEASE HELP US FIND MORE LAW FIRMS THAT WILL TAKE OUR CASES
WE HAVE ONE SO FAR AS OF 4-18-2012 in California.
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His lawsuit, if initiated, will be deemed frivolous and dismissed.
Why do i get the feeling this lawsuit will never get heard in a court of law? I can't see the palintiffs going forward with this case because it would end their crusade with the drop of a judge's gavel. If people are going to continue milking money out of people with this issue they can't take it to court.
... 95 percent of chemmies are loath to do anything about "Chemtrails", that does not involve going to message boards and typing LOOK UP, CHEMTRAILS!
Robert, you wrote: "if you know something we don't or would like to discuss in an open forum here, join us and let's get to it." Thank you for extending that offer. I know that some people view debunkers with suspicion, so I'll try to stick to verifiable facts.
I'd specifically like to address one thing - the normal levels of Barium in blood. It's been suggested that the normal range is up to 10 mcg/L, but in my research the ranges I've found are up to 400 mcg/L (μg/L):
A quote from that last link: "The reported serum barium levels in the child and her grandmother of 251 and 331 μg/L
respectively are both above what is considered by some to be the "normal range" of 30-200 μg/L
[12, 13]. However, other sources have reported the "normal range" to be 30-290 μg/L  and
80-400 μg/L [14, 15]. Furthermore, while the reported levels may be somewhat above the
"normal range," they are 4 to 15 times lower than the range that would be expected to produce
significant clinical signs or symptoms of barium poisoning "
From a purely factual point of view, if blood tests such as those from Mohave are going to be use in a lawsuit, then there needs to be a strong scientific basis for the claim that the levels are actually above the normal range for human blood.
I would like to second that.This makes me wonder if I should extend the politeness policy to people not directly engaged in discussion.
"Levels of Barium, Aluminum and Strontium in the Body... What's Normal?"
INTERPRETING NMS TEST RESULTS
This is a typical lab report from NMS labs showing elevated levels of barium
- Analysis- Barium, Serum/Plasma
- Result - 130
- Units - mcg/L
- Reporting limit - 11
- Notes - elevated
The report includes the following comments:
- reported normal: less than 10 mcg/L
- NMS lab derived data:
- Median, 21 mcg/L
- Range, 0-489 mcg/L (N=1155)
- 10-90% of concentrations range from 1.8 to 165 mcg/L
The following Q&A was conducted on June 8th 2011, with Mr Marlow, the Client Support Representative of NMS Labs to discus what this means:
Q: What does a "reporting limit" mean? (of 11 mcg/L)
A: This is the minimum detectable amount for which we will make a report.
Q: What does "elevated" mean?
A: Any amount above the median (average) amount will be reported as elevated.
Q: What does "N-1155" mean?
A.: That is the number of people that NMS tested when we were researching average blood barium levels.
Q: I am looking at a report of barium in blood, what does the comment "Median, 21 mcg/L" mean?
A: 21 mcg/L lies in the center of the range of what 1155 people had in their blood.
Q: What does "Range, 0-489 mcg/L" mean?
A: That is the spread of blood barium levels that NMS labs found when they tested 1155 average people. The lowest was 0, the highest was 489.
Q: What does "10-90% of concentrations range from 1.8 to 165 mcg/L" mean?
A: Most people's blood barium levels fall into the range of 1.8 to 165 mcg/L.
BLOOD LEVELS OF BARIUM SAID TO BE NORMAL:
- It was mistakenly believed that, based on Labcorp and Quest Labs, the normal range of Barium in a person's blood is between 2 and 10 mcg/L. However it seems this was based on the minimum detection level, and not the actual range of values found. See above
- NMS lab reports say that most people have blood barium levels in the range 1.8 to 165 mcg/L. In average people the full range was from 0 to 489.
- The National Library of Medicine quotes the Handbook of Toxicology of Metals, 2nd edition, as saying "Normal human blood contains 0.08-0.4 mg Ba/l (80-400 mcg/L)"
- Labcorp says "Upper end of the normal range has been reported to be from 2 - 400 mcg/L (NMS Labs derived data)"
- NMS says on othe lab reports: "The concentration of barium in normal human blood is approximately 2-400 mcg/L" and "Barium ... usally up to 400 mcg/L blood"
Seems like you have been edited out of the document Mick. Most of your posts have been deleted along with any replies from Robert and Al.
Reminds me of "The Minstry Of Truth" in 1984.
Think we should just let them go ahead and have their day in court after the 15th. Should be interesting to see what happens after they spend their hard earned cash.
Orwellian themes are only to be feared if it is perceived as being used by debunkers. When they rewrite history, they are fighting "them"....which I guess is "us". Anything done to fight "them" is okay.
Really, someone explained it that way to me.
Duplicity is never a good trait. They don't know that.
I love it...you must first send a sample of something you collect at ground level, and assume came from the trails in the sky, before you can register.
I just can't understand why these people can't see how odd these assumptions are. To look up, see a trail, and then assume what you capture in a jar came from the trail is just plain silly!
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